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It would be hilarious if Twitter tanks after Elon's takeover but people would need something else where they can give an opinion a be heard about issues.
It's a loss making company. How do you "tank" from below profitability? And as much as Elon likes to pretend, it's not a global public forum (like the internet for example). You only speak to other Twitter users, people who are explicitly interested to express themselves in less than 280 characters. You might feel as if you've been heard when someone retweets your covfefe, but soon something else will be trending. And your important issue is superseded by the color of a blue and black dress.
 


Elon Musk has asked Twitter engineers to begin work on an updated version of Vine that could launch before the end of the year, reports Axios. Musk yesterday tweeted a poll asking if he should "bring back Vine," and 69.5 percent of four million respondents said yes.

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Twitter acquired video app Vine back in 2012, which was pre-TikTok and back when Vine was popular. The app slowly stopped being used, and Twitter ended up shutting it down in 2016. Vine was designed to let users capture and share six-second looping video clips.

A rebooted version of Vine could compete with popular video app TikTok. Twitter engineers have been told to examine the Vine code base, which has not been changed since it was shut down. One source told Axios that it "needs a lot of work."

Musk completed his $44 billion acquisition of Twitter on Friday, instating himself as CEO and firing multiple top executives including prior CEO Parag Agrawal, CFO Ned Segal, and policy lead Vijaya Gadde, among others. Musk also got rid of the board of directors, and is now Twitter's sole director.

There have been multiple rumors about Musk's plans for Twitter since the takeover, and it has been suggested that he is going to make significant cuts to Twitter's workforce. This morning, rumors indicated that Musk plans to charge $20 per month for a verified account, which has yet to be confirmed.

Article Link: Elon Musk Planning Vine Reboot After Twitter Acquisition
tbqh, Vine will have to be rewritten from scratch on the frontend and the apps.
 
I used to think this, too. It is a fairy tale. Unfortunately, there is ample evidence over the past decade or so that it really does not work that way in the real world. If it did, no one would be bothering about misinformation. It would take care of itself.

One of the biggest flaws with that theory is the unfortunate number of people that believe the misinformation because it is what they actually want to believe. Bad ideas are embraced and the good ideas that are supposed to push them out are dismissed and ignored at best and treated with hostility at worst.
I dont think its any one thing that changes peoples minds. They have to change their own minds but proximity to accurate information is necessary because people do look for validation when evolving their opinions or forming their opinions. In many cases, the first idea that seems to make sense wins regardless of its accuracy. This is why politicians try to define their opponent early.
 
…and 69.5 percent of four million respondents said yes.
It was actually 69.420%. MacRumors rounded to the nearest half-percent but Elon had the engineers stay up all night Sunday to make every poll result be 69.420%. Who needs a family when you have daddy Elon?? He’s so edgy.
 
The NRO let’s him launch their top secret spy satellites. More than one.
True but I think that the NRO has more power at keeping him on the straight and narrow than a bunch of random people on the internet. Plus I don't think that the NRO passes all the data that it collects through his hands.
Also there is the role that he has in the company and how much is he involved in the technical side of things but this discussion would open another can of worms.
 
I don’t know how people remember it but the way I remember it is Vine was SUPER popular with a young demo. Twitter kind of killed it because they wanted to have Twitter video or something. It was still very much being used until they announced that it was getting shut down.
Around the same time IG introduced video, which hurt it a bit.

Most Viners went to YT or Musical.ly or both.

If it came back it would have to do something unique or different. The landscape has changed so much in the last 8 years or so.

But that being said, this is the most interesting I have heard since TwitterEM happened.
 
I don’t know how people remember it but the way I remember it is Vine was SUPER popular with a young demo. Twitter kind of killed it because they wanted to have Twitter video or something. It was still very much being used until they announced that it was getting shut down.
Around the same time IG introduced video, which hurt it a bit.

Most Viners went to YT or Musical.ly or both.

If it came back it would have to do something unique or different. The landscape has changed so much in the last 8 years or so.

But that being said, this is the most interesting I have heard since TwitterEM happened.
your right music sports etc. it was great.
 
Many creators are moving to YouTube Shorts because they now pay creators many times more than TikTok. Can't see scumbag Musk caring about creators enough to get them to go back to Vine in any big way.
Nobody watches YouTube shorts. I downloaded tik tok for the first time last week and it's awesome and very addictive.
 


Elon Musk has asked Twitter engineers to begin work on an updated version of Vine that could launch before the end of the year, reports Axios. Musk yesterday tweeted a poll asking if he should "bring back Vine," and 69.5 percent of four million respondents said yes.

twitter-elon-musk.png

Twitter acquired video app Vine back in 2012, which was pre-TikTok and back when Vine was popular. The app slowly stopped being used, and Twitter ended up shutting it down in 2016. Vine was designed to let users capture and share six-second looping video clips.

A rebooted version of Vine could compete with popular video app TikTok. Twitter engineers have been told to examine the Vine code base, which has not been changed since it was shut down. One source told Axios that it "needs a lot of work."

Musk completed his $44 billion acquisition of Twitter on Friday, instating himself as CEO and firing multiple top executives including prior CEO Parag Agrawal, CFO Ned Segal, and policy lead Vijaya Gadde, among others. Musk also got rid of the board of directors, and is now Twitter's sole director.

There have been multiple rumors about Musk's plans for Twitter since the takeover, and it has been suggested that he is going to make significant cuts to Twitter's workforce. This morning, rumors indicated that Musk plans to charge $20 per month for a verified account, which has yet to be confirmed.

Article Link: Elon Musk Planning Vine Reboot After Twitter Acquisition
Makes sense!
 
Is Twitter a means of controlling the population?

If so wasn't it already being used to control the population?

And if so their pattern of censorship is cause of great concern. Maybe the social media sites should be regulated to be free speech platforms if they are really a means of population control without any restrictions other than those imposed on public free speech. If they are a means of controlling the public maximum freedom in a free society seems the obvious response.

This image might look like a joke but it’s pretty much what Twitter is now. It’s oligarchs and dictators taking complete control of a platform.

They won’t ban bots.

They will allow crypto scammers to keep enriching them.

They will allow misinformation.

They will allow conspiracy theories.

The CEO himself will do it with pleasure.

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I used to think this, too. It is a fairy tale. Unfortunately, there is ample evidence over the past decade or so that it really does not work that way in the real world. If it did, no one would be bothering about misinformation. It would take care of itself.

One of the biggest flaws with that theory is the unfortunate number of people that believe the misinformation because it is what they actually want to believe. Bad ideas are embraced and the good ideas that are supposed to push them out are dismissed and ignored at best and treated with hostility at worst.
Actually the general practice has been in place since the earliest societies.

Disinformation: false information which is intended to mislead, especially propaganda issued by a government organization to a rival power or the media.

Disinformation campaigns have been lead by all governments and major institutions to spread propaganda of one sort or another. The main difference in this day and age is that governments themselves do not have the greatest power to reach the masses any longer. Now that power is shared (at least equally in the most oppressive regions) with corporate entities.

Corporations have become the new vehicle for monarchy and come with their own flavor of disinformation. LOL

Honestly as sad and true all of this is I still just laugh at it all since quite frankly with so much chaos there always comes a massive price to pay. Once the confidence of the masses are breached then you’ll have nothing but anarchy. And yet we have no alternative but to try our best to each represent the particular perspectives we each have.

I’m never surprised by just how messed up things can get. But I am impressed that we haven’t totally botched things on a grand global scale. (Still have managed to avoid global nuclear war…. Though…. I don’t wanna jinx that. LOL)
 
This image might look like a joke but it’s pretty much what Twitter is now. It’s oligarchs and dictators taking complete control of a platform.

They won’t ban bots.

They will allow crypto scammers to keep enriching them.

They will allow misinformation.

They will allow conspiracy theories.

The CEO himself will do it with pleasure.

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This almost made me LOL
 
I don't use social media, but I would use Vine over TikTok any day. I don't know why anyone would use an app owned by the Chinese government.
Your statement sounds a bit like “I don’t drive a car but I don’t know why anyone would buy a Subaru over a Ford.”

Besides let’s not gloss over the irony that we are commenting on a website dedicated to exalting Apple’s status who then goes to manufacture every single product they make in CHINA.

Yes China! Can you believe it? That Mac, iPhone or even Apple Watch, iPad, iPod, MacBook Pro, every link bracelet for the watch, every single thing…. Made in China!!!!

So I’m really curious. If you’re so suspicious of the Chinese government having control over some video streams on TikTok. You’re not concerned that every cellular or wireless electronic with complex silicon isn’t tainted by that same government? LOL

Honestly this sort of paranoia is just preposterous. Even if it had merit, reason left the building when we dip our hands in the same water we just claimed to have urinated in.
 
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This image might look like a joke but it’s pretty much what Twitter is now. It’s oligarchs and dictators taking complete control of a platform.

They won’t ban bots.

They will allow crypto scammers to keep enriching them.

They will allow misinformation.

They will allow conspiracy theories.

The CEO himself will do it with pleasure.
Where do people even come up with this stuff? Total fantasy land type behavior.
 
I’d rather an American company be using the data and be subject to American laws.
Oohhh yeah cause American companies are always beholden to US laws. LOL

You should hope and pray for an EU company to offer some real competition. Then you can be sure your data privacy will be handled with some regulatory concern. The US is atrocious for handling consumer rights compared to a number of other countries (many of them in the EU now).
 
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