That doesn't mean it won't be transformed/coded and used immediately for training purposes.
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Elon Musk Threatens to Ban Apple Devices Over ChatGPT Integration
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You have to log it to disk first. Training is not some real-time, in-memory process.
And the format in which it is logged is irrelevant. Apple says it is not happening.
That’s why Apple is creating a layer of isolation between the user and their servers to keep your information private.
It would be interesting to learn more about it. In the end, this may be a temporary arrangement until Apple is ready to deploy their own AI Servers and separate from the 3rd parties.
Yep, what a billionaire loser with multiple companies and his own satellite constellation and reusable rockets. 🙄
Have banned twitter from all my devices for privacy, security, and misinformation practices. Will not buy any of his cars that track people and watch them. If I had one of his rattle-traps, I’d keep a Faraday cage around and park it. I’ll keep using my iphone though on foot and riding e-bikes etc
~2.2B users - (Elon employees) = ~2.2B users.
Meanwhile I'll just leave this here for Elon.
Meanwhile I'll just leave this here for Elon.
My concern is the immensity of material they used to train it without authorial consent. Apple partnering with them kind of glosses over that. Feels very neo-liberal, status-quo, “let the colonized territories remain under current ownership no matter the legitimacy of claim.”
With OpenAI’s reputation and Apples reputation, don’t you think that the Apple lawyers would have covered exactly that scenario? They have already said that OpenAI will not be able to retain any of your information.
Training the full network isn't instant, but training some parts of the network can be. At the very least tokenization and embeddings are instant transforms, and who know what other layers are trained. Transformer models have a lot of independent steps. This is also a very active research area, to speed up training and inference as well.
I like their direction of treating that higher-level intelligence access as a new search, with an eye to users in the future being able to select the AI they prefer for queries that are beyond on-device capabilities.
CatGPT is not integrated into the OS. It is an external service meant to handle some specific types of queries and you can choose to use it or not. It essentially replaces the feature where Siri would say “Here is what I found on the web”.
Yes. Apple’s AI integration is the right way to do it, focused on privacy and functionality.
It’s been almost 2 weeks since Elon’s had a headline and Trump’s sucking up all his oxygen right now. Poor little rich boy needs reassurance that we still remember him. There is zero data supporting Elon’s claims and of course he has a conflict of interest but that’s never stopped him from shooting off on his own social network before.
Elon Musk has threatened to ban Apple devices from his companies over Apple’s newly announced ChatGPT integration.
Apple Intelligence in iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia allows Siri to utilize ChatGPT to handle complex queries, but only when explicit user permission is provided. The feature is designed to provide users with richer, more contextual responses without requiring them to open the ChatGPT app.
During Apple's keynote event, Senior Vice President of Software Engineering, Craig Federighi, emphasized that users will have full control over when ChatGPT is used and that data shared with OpenAI would not be logged or stored. "You are in control over when ChatGPT is used and will be asked before any of your information is shared," Federighi said.
Despite these assurances, Musk expressed strong opposition to the integration on his social media platform, X (formerly Twitter). Musk said, "If Apple integrates OpenAI at the OS level, then Apple devices will be banned at my companies. That is an unacceptable security violation." He continued, "Visitors will have to check their Apple devices at the door, where they will be stored in a Faraday cage." He also repeatedly questioned Apple's ability to ensure data security, stating, "Apple has no clue what's actually going on once they hand your data over to OpenAI. They're selling you down the river."
Apple and OpenAI have both emphasized that user data will only be shared with explicit consent and that these interactions are designed to be secure. OpenAI noted in a new blog post that "requests are not stored by OpenAI, and users' IP addresses are obscured." Users can also choose to connect their ChatGPT accounts to access paid features, but this is an opt-in feature.
Apple has been clear in its messaging that the new AI capabilities are designed with user privacy at the core. Apple's approach leverages a combination of on-device processing and cloud computing, ensuring that data is not stored in the cloud. Apple's integration of ChatGPT into its operating systems is part of a broader strategy to enhance the AI capabilities of iOS, iPadOS, and macOS.
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If you watch the WWDC Keynote you will that Apple very much does have their own thing. They are running their AI models on device and running their AI models on their Private Cloud Compute platform for larger tasks. It is true that they need to partner with OpenAI to handle some types of requests. It seems mostly the kind of web search answerbot responses that require a system that has crawled large parts of the web for data. It’s similar to using Google for web search and not much more integrated. Each time the Apple AI decides it can’t service the request and needs ChatGPT, it pops up a dialog box asking if you want to send the request to ChatGPT. That is not a tight integration.
Apple may not be on the leading of LLM and chatbots but it seems like they have a lot more AI that a lot of people thought and much of it is running on device.
Well, Linux exists. But many people prefer to run it on Apple hardware
Oh scary! If his Highness says so I shall comply and lose on the wagon of winners to stay with someone that incrementally looks and acts like a loser …
Company forbidding to share code is most of the time out of fear.
If you’re company is writing very unique code or algorithms then yeah you might consider forbidding the use of OpenAI tools. But a lot of code that is written is a lot of plumbing and is hardly unique. Besides the real value is in the data, which isn’t shared.
As far as I’m concerned, you are sending your data to Open AI whenever you make use of that iOS 18 feature.
It may or may not be anonymized. The exact details remain to be seen. But Apple stated the users data is not “logged”.
Where Musk makes no sense is that any(!) current mobile device or computer can run ChatGPT as an app or in a browser.
Apple’s iOS 18 version just eliminates the need to jump into the app or go to the website whenever someone wants to use ChatGPT.
With his reasoning, surely any device running any LAM needs to be banned and put in a Faraday cage?
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Wait til he finds out his employees could already have ChatGPT on their phones.
Dude has lost his marbles. And is full of s*it. I’d bet $10,000 he fails to follow through on this (just like he has with countless other promises and threats).
Rather than banning iPhones and putting them in Faraday cages, it would be much easier and cheaper for Elon to simply announce that he’s also making his own version iOS with ChatGPT integration.
Then nobody will have one until “next year” from any point in time and Elon won’t have to worry about ChatGPT on iPhones ever again.
Elon is truly the arbiter of truth and morality for anyone and any thing except himself and the products he puts out.
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plenty of elon's promises are qualified by one minor detail which gives him a way out. Elon says "if implemented at the OS level".
chatGPT isn't implemented at the OS level. it's at the plugin level, so Elon won't follow through and anyone who attacks him will say "but it wasn't at the OS level, so it doesn't count".
Like almost every Twitter user, he’s just bored and reacting to the hottest things happening in the news and trying to make it all about him, and getting thousands to @ him and argue with his “hot take”.
How a man with his money is so terminally online and not out in the World reinventing something or pursuing his next wife is beyond me.
He really did just buy Twitter to make sure he’s always seen and has someone to talk to around the clock.
Now that’s what I call cringe.