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My bet is that it will be free with new phones for a year, available as part of Apple One, and/or be available as a single subscription for a few bucks a month.

Just a guess, but having it as part of Apple One just adds value there.
I can see Apple charging $2-5 / month starting this year, for those who don't buy a new phone and already have a compatible device.
 
Exactly my point!

Incidentally ask yourself if it works on the Isle of Mann or Isle of Wight...

An emergency system is no good if there are so many constraints on the operation of it.
Your point is exactly the point. The reason it is only available in those areas is that those are the areas in which Apple has arranged with local authorities for emergency services to be available.
 
As a professional astronomer, I can tell you that you are wrong. It actually is a big issue for astronomers, especially those of us working with large fields of view...we get Starlink and other satellites in the images all the time, and sometimes they trash our data. SpaceX has tried to make changes, but they haven't done that much good (at least they aren't as easily visible by eye anymore), and they really could have done more if they thought about the design ahead of time. You're wrong to think SpaceX solved the problem, they did not despite what they may have said.

Satellite internet really is going to be a great thing, but we're sacrificing science in exchange, and no one really had any say in that until the first set of satellites were launched and people did an analysis of their effects.
They already reached an agreement with NSF for second gen satellites. https://spacenews.com/nsf-and-spacex-reach-agreement-to-reduce-starlink-effects-on-astronomy/

This agreement is purely voluntary too. Any other company attempting to do what SpaceX is doing would have completely ignored astronomers as their launch costs would likely be more expensive than SpaceX. Those other companies couldn't afford to modify their satellites to satisfy astronomers.

It's a non-issue. You are wrong.
 
Elon to this day uses an iPhone. Teslas have Apple Music now with an Apple designed GUI, despite not having CarPlay. I don't know why people are up in arms about this.
Most people don't like Elon for his Twitter nonsense but there is a much more serious problem. When a global superpower country or multi-trillion dollar company relies on one person (who is extremely volatile by many accounts) for services, you will eventually run into problems. The US is already having issues with Elon and his SpaceX satellite use for the Ukraine war. I'm predicting about 5 years from now there will be brisk pull away from all things Elon (similar to China) because he more or less has control of EV charging, social media news aggregation, rockets and satellites, tunneling underground, AI neural networks and cannot be trusted to do the right thing just like no one person should be trusted with that kind of power. We have checks and balances for the US president for that reason.
 
waiting for the day where cell carriers are no longer necessary and Apple will use their satellites to provide network coverage, MORE BUNDLED SERVICES!!
 
cannot be trusted to do the right thing

You mean like opening Superchargers up for all EV competitors to use? He already did that.

Build a 68 mile loop in Vegas for ZERO tax dollars and earns both counties in Vegas 5% of revenue? Already inked into an agreement.

Provide a certain country free satellite internet on SpaceX's dollar? Currently doing that.

Offer free satellite hardware for people in Maui? Just did that.

You need checks and balances for prevention of corruption. There's really nothing here where Elon is being corrupt about.

People only focus on the negatives and completely ignore the positives of Elon.
 
i can't honestly take you seriously about the other points. it sounds like you're just restating what other media has falsely fed you.


you mean like opening up superchargers to all EV competitors so that you don't have to buy a Tesla if you want access to the best EV supercharging network in the world?

The first sentence is so rich in irony coming from you it's hilarious.

As for the second point, he's taking a(nother) Gov subsidy (the only reason his companies still exist -for you Elon fanboys not wanting to accept he invented nothing) and the taxpayers are footing the bill for this. Which is fine, whatever. Im all about a sustainable, fossil-free future but don't act like he's all of a sudden this magnanimous, great guy. He isn't. I used to love the guy until he showed his true colors. And I always believe it when someone blatantly shows me who they are. And this emperor hasn't had clothes for a long time now.
 
The first sentence is so rich in irony coming from you its hilarious.

Nice to speak with you again. 🙂

As for the second point, he's taking a(nother) Gov subsidy (the only reason his companies still exist) and the taxpayers are footing the bill for this. Which is fine, whatever. Im all about a sustainable, fossil-free future but don't act like he's all of a sudden this magnanimous, great guy. He isn't. I used to love the guy until he showed his true colors. And I always believe it when someone blatantly shows me who they are. And this emperor hasn't had clothes for a long time now.

That's funny.

So you're saying instead of Tesla locking down the competition with their industry-leading margins on cars by creating a moat via Superchargers, they're going to open it up and let go of their car sales in favor of some small subsidy for building superchargers? That's freaking hilarious.

You do know that Tesla would get *MORE* subsidies from selling *MORE* cars instead by not opening up the Superchargers to the competition, right?

FYI - Tesla began opening up Superchargers well before any subsidy was on the table. You could have Googled up these facts.
 
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This is really a stupid feature if you ask me. If you're putting yourself into a situation where you need emergency communications buying an Iridium phone or beacon is a far far better idea. I suspect this might put people off a safety conscious decision because there is some assumption they can fall back on the iPhone, which is extremely difficult to use in this mode I understand, you know when you're injured or incapacitated.

Casual stuff, you might be lucky...
Tell this family it’s a stupid feature. And in the future if you are in the same situation feel free not to use it, because you know, one shouldn’t put self in that situation.

 
They already reached an agreement with NSF for second gen satellites. https://spacenews.com/nsf-and-spacex-reach-agreement-to-reduce-starlink-effects-on-astronomy/

This agreement is purely voluntary too. Any other company attempting to do what SpaceX is doing would have completely ignored astronomers as their launch costs would likely be more expensive than SpaceX. Those other companies couldn't afford to modify their satellites to satisfy astronomers.

It's a non-issue. You are wrong.
Said with such certainty. What qualifications do you have to support your contention?

Many astronomers and organizations would beg to differ. I can cite references, but I’m sure you can find them with a bit of effort.
 
Japan Japanese are still waiting for the service. So far it hasn’t started for us. Very happy this is going to happen but not for Japan I don’t know


I never deal with Twitter, so I can care less. All I care about here is the iPhone and its services. I don’t get into the child is popcorn is hatemongering Twitter debates. Because to me I have better things to do in my life to deal with Twitter.
 
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This is really a stupid feature if you ask me. If you're putting yourself into a situation where you need emergency communications buying an Iridium phone or beacon is a far far better idea. I suspect this might put people off a safety conscious decision because there is some assumption they can fall back on the iPhone, which is extremely difficult to use in this mode I understand, you know when you're injured or incapacitated.

Casual stuff, you might be lucky...
I drove cross country in the US last year and encountered several stretches of interstate highways with no cell service. I also occasionally find myself in dead zones near where I live, which is not far from a medium size city. You could argue it’s my carrier’s fault (I use AT&T), but I hear the same from customers of Verizon and T-Mobile.

Apple’s satellite feature isn’t aimed at people who travel to locations with large areas that have no cell service. For them, a satellite phone makes sense. It’s for folks like me who generally have decent signal but sometimes briefly find themselves without it in countries where Apple offers the service.
 
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People can’t sperate two ideas here iPhone service and twitter. If you do t like one don’t use it. Don’t like either why are you on this website if hate apple?


This is why I refuse to pay $50 for a website that creates so much malarkey.
 
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Nice to speak with you again. 🙂



That's funny.

So you're saying instead of Tesla locking down the competition with their industry-leading margins on cars by creating a moat via Superchargers, they're going to open it up and let go of their car sales in favor of some small subsidy for building superchargers? That's freaking hilarious.

You do know that Tesla would get *MORE* subsidies from selling *MORE* cars instead by not opening up the Superchargers to the competition, right?

FYI - Tesla began opening up Superchargers well before any subsidy was on the table. You could have Googled up these facts.
I'll just focus on the last part since their margins are not germane to the discussion. And the second sentence is based on nothing but your wannabe speculation.

You are entitled to your own opinions but cannot create your own facts. But, FYI - Tesla agreed to fully open it up AFTER(!) the US Gov aid they would foot the bill, not a second before (late 2024). And is estimated to bring in over 3 billion/year by the start of the next decade, so please, tell me again how it isn't about the money?

So instead of trying to play fast and loose with the facts, take your own advice and Google them. But that's a big ask, so I shouldn't even bother.

Edit: Typo and financial clarity.
 
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