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I agree. They should ditch the useless optical disk drive. At least throw in a blueray drive (which will never happen with apple). It's retarded for apple to retain the DVD drive (which for some stupid reason apple calls it super drive). My ODD came with the MBP and I used it no more than 5 times total.
A number of users on this forum have replaced it with another SATA device (SSD, HD...etc) which is a much better use of space. The reason we don't need it is because we get software from web (or app store), and music CDs and movies from itunes. When is the last time you see someone buy a CD or DVD (Not Blueray because apple don't support blue ray)? The issue is that most people don't use it. For those odd souls that still prefer to buy CDs and BR to watch movies (like me), there is an invention called a CD player or BR player that you can use to enjoy the music.
The point is, the ODD is outdated and can be removed from the next macbook update. Apple can, however, include an option where the user can replace the optical drive with another SSD.
If I can choose, I would pick a computer with loger battery life over ODD.
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Apple hardly seems on the cutting edge with the *current* MBP. No USB 3 and no Blu-Ray drive. Dell, HP, Toshiba and the rest provide that. Ok you got me on Thunder Bolt though for now.
A company offering a floppy disk drive would therefore beat Apple on that cutting edge comment as well?
Cutting edge exactly for the reason of not using stupid non-sense technology and that includes both blu-ray and USB 3
Not having a BluRay drive in the MacBook or entire Mac line or any type of real support is like not doing the dishes for a while, you can get away with it but not for long. I don't like optical disks but then again I we don't have 1Gigabit internet speeds to stream 25GB movies. I use an optibay but I know damn well enough NOT to throw my ODD away (its in a USB enclosure now).
They should get rid of anything *I've* never or rarely used... things like ships, crutches, churches, axes, automatic transmissions, iPads, eyeglasses and medicines. These useless items are holding me back from my house on the moon!
Not enough space (0.7 GB for each CD). And i need the space for other tasks (video editing). This is also no solution, if i want to use an Audio CD from a friend or from a public library.
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100 % correct.
If I'm not mistaken the post your referring to was facetious
Nice facetiousness.
Maybe you're just a bunch of old farts I'm only 22 myself and aside from burning a DVD for a customer stuck in 2000. I've had zero need for physical media in day to day life. Just the other day I downloaded Adobe CS 5.5 Master direct from Adobe took about an hour to download a lot faster than waiting for a DVD to arrive in the mail.
That being said physical media does have its place such as instances where you don't have Internet or have a fast connection. However that's been countered by flash drive based media. The only reason why were still using physical media is because of the people who don't want to move on. Not because the technology doesn't exist for better more reliable units
That being said physical media does have its place such as instances where you don't have Internet or have a fast connection. However that's been countered by flash drive based media. The only reason why were still using physical media is because of the people who don't want to move on. Not because the technology doesn't exist for better more reliable units
+1
Another issue with media is storage space. Where on earth are you going to find room in your house to store CDs and DVDs?? I have 2 Rubbermaid tubs (large / long ones) full of DVD and CDs sitting in the basement. I certainly would like to use the space to store something else.
How would you suggest film festivals move on? They need to project the movies on a screen. Downloading them all at theater projection quality? I'd love to see that. Maybe we can watch movies together at the first land-speeder hover-in theater on Tattoine.
Nice rant.. perhaps you're being held back by your own ability to express yourself in a concise manner
. The ODD specifically does take up a fair amount of space, but understanding how this space could otherwise be allocated requires some background engineering knowledge of board design along with other factors. I read a lot of the same sentiments repeatedly about Ivy Bridge temperatures and other things, but currently Apple addresses all cpus possible as limited by that product density. A silent laptop that runs cool enough without fans ramped up would be a nice improvement. An option for a second hard drive there would be great. The problem here is with your notion of progression. The Air is quite thin, and it uses scaled down hardware for multiple reasons. With hotter cpus battery life would be an issue in the Airs. So far Intel graphics have been sub par. It's not always the hardware. The combination of hardware and available drivers hasn't been very good. If this changes as much as suggested in the next generation, it'll be a first, but they'll still be a compromise. Anyway you don't really need a macbook pro unless it can offer something beyond what can be addressed by an Air.
My guess is the same as yours on how they would progress, although it would tend to compromise things like battery life and cooling (meaning the fan noise under load would remain). I don't see how it's difficult to examine what is used in the macbook air and realize that they've addressed a very large portion of what is currently practical in such a form factor. Of course the hatred always turns elsewhere. It must be Intel with their expensive chips right
? AMD isn't on their asses on product releases so they're being more cautious on product releases. This is a bad thing right?I can honestly imagine no situation where people would still prefer using optical media over an external HDD/memory card/usb stick. Yes, optical disks may be useful for installing some old software or watching movies, but that's it. I have a full university department here using Macs and most of us haven't used a single optical disk in last two years. Abolishing the ODD will allow for thinner, lighter MBP with more place for dedicated graphics, battery and other nice things. I see no point into having a feature on a computer which takes insane amounts of space but is regularly used by less then 5% of the user base...
How long ago did you perform the survey in your department, and why?
On what do you base the statement that less than five percent of the MacBook Pro users regularly use their ODD?
And a personal reflection; you seem to have very limited imagination.
I don't deny that there is a market for the ODD but it is shrinking and will disappear from the mainstream one day. I can't speak for everyone of course but I don't know anyone who regularly uses the ODD. It's usually used to rip DVDs and CDs and install games.
Apple is usually the first to dump legacy standards. They killed the floppy drive, they killed the parallel port and they killed powerPC in the mainstream. They've refused to support the Bluray, don't release anything on optical media and have business interests in conflict with CDs/DVDs/Blurays (iTunes) so if they don't do it now, it cannot be far away.
I use my ODD several times a year to rip audio CDs. If you want me to give up the ODD, give me lossless format that I can download.
Oh joy... another ODD rant. You guys are hilarious.
Who the hell drags their MBP around with a stack full of media disks? And Blu-Ray? LOL This format has a hard enough time staying alive much less demanding the need to put a BR burner in a laptop. Keep your laptops small, light, portable and most importantly... long lasting via battery. Just like it was intended.
You want an ODD then plug one in... do your crap and leave it at home.
Who the hell drags their MBP around with a stack full of media disks? And Blu-Ray? LOL This format has a hard enough time staying alive much less demanding the need to put a BR burner in a laptop. Keep your laptops small, light, portable and most importantly... long lasting via battery. Just like it was intended.
You want an ODD then plug one in... do your crap and leave it at home.
Sorry some of us real power users need the ODD so we can take that sucker out and swap in an SSD for Raid 0 goodness or HDD for maximum storage. If you want a macbook dainty then go buy one no one is stopping you. Leave the macbook pro alone some of us still have work to do.
And there is still no decent established methodology for writing ISOs to flash disk which is a HUGE problem especially when you work in IT such as myself. Unnetbootin cannot write and boot alot of things for the mac. Disk utility can save a bootable iso to usb but usually if it's only mac formatted. So I have no way of making bootable winnt flash disks in os x. Fix this and maybe i'll reconsider the odds removal.
And there is still no decent established methodology for writing ISOs to flash disk which is a HUGE problem especially when you work in IT such as myself. Unnetbootin cannot write and boot alot of things for the mac. Disk utility can save a bootable iso to usb but usually if it's only mac formatted. So I have no way of making bootable winnt flash disks in os x. Fix this and maybe i'll reconsider the odds removal.