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Epic Games Asks Apple to Restore Fortnite in South Korea Following Ban on In-App Purchase Requirement [Update]
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That is because Samsung ais a major conglomerate and each of the major parts operate independently.....Applle is buying from the industrial parts part as opposed to the division that makes the phones/tablets. I believe that is a small part of the company. They have a division that make ships and heavy machinery.
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FYI, App Store came out in 2008. Steam was founded in 2013. You are few years short there, my friend. What is it again? Apple copied who??? 😂
The law is in favor of the mentioned market’s local businesses. South Korea doesn’t care about Epic or their sense of entitlement. As of now, legally Epic is in breech if contract. No court can overlook that no matter what country that is.
The law does not award or allow willful breech of contract even if you have a pending claim in court. That’s called the doctrine of clean hands. Yes, Apple is not the law and neither is Epic. Epic can’t be the judge of their own and decide to breech of contract before any judgment is made. I don’t think you realize how the law works. At all!
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So I wasn't playing Half Life 2 in 2004 with the mandatory Steam client? The history of Steam is a lie? I wasn't buying games in 2006? I wasn't selling games in 2006 and thought it was awesome to get 70% profit instead of less than 20% https://www.pcgamer.com/steam-versions/
You were buying those games on a CD from a brick and mortar store just like the rest of the developed world. You sure weren’t playing them online when only 20% population had broadband internet (your link says so).
The cost to physically keep those games in shelves varied between 60% - 70%. Epic was part of gaming world in the 90s and their fees was 60% for any software or game developer to have their games hosted.
Then the App Store came along and made digital hosting of apps a world standard. It gained popularity very quickly because of the never before seen 30%.
Don’t try to rewrite history, kiddo. I was using computers long before you were born. Do me a favor and do some googling and learn the history of the App Store. Good luck.
You're the one talking out your arse and trying to rewrite history. Valve were selling games on Steam years before the App Store, Value introduced the 30% cut. You needed an always on internet connection to play these games and all updates where downloaded via Steam with at the time my 256 Kbps broadband.
Regardless, there is no debate to be had here. This is all well recorded and indisputable, even if you want to try argue that black is white.
Acceptable mistake, the last year or so, it seems like the world has turned upside down.
They broke the rules they agreed too with Apple. Breaking the rules has consequences. Apple has every right to refuse EPIC or any other developer access to it's store for breaking the rules.
If you own a T-Shirt store. And I come along and bring my own T-Shirts that I made, and a rack and wheel it into your store. I stand right next to my T-Shirts with a credit card payment device. While customers walk into your store and browse away. The come next to my shirts. They like my shirts, and I say pay "you can pay with me please" (my credit card machine). They do, and leave a happy customer. I leave your store with the rest of my shirts and rack and give you NOTHING of my profits. Is that OK???? I pay no rental space, I pay no profit cut, nothing. I just show up whenever I want, setup my ***** in your space every day I feel. I pay ZERO to you or the building owner (if that isn't also you). IS THAT OK? Are you cool with that? Cause if you are, you're not the normal in this type of situation.
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So, what your saying is that EPIC or any large developer get to set up shop in Apple's AppStore. But, at the very end of the purchase, they don't owe Apple ANYTHING during the sale? When they have other means?
1)Ad supported games (100% goes to EPIC)
2) WebAPP game streaming (Microsoft does this right now with Xbox. 100% goes to Microsoft)
3) vBUCK gift cards (Physically bought at a store, or FROM THEIR OWN WEBSITE)
4) vBUCKS brought from other platforms (any platform purchase will see vBUCKS in other platforms).
There are ways EPIC or any other developer can get more of their share of the profits. You don't get to play on another companies store, get all the benefits of that companies store (their customer exposer being one of the biggest benefits of that 30% cut). And decide you don't like the rules, and hack around it. Apple had every right to kick them off the platform. They broke the rules. They have plenty of options that they clearly don't want to be bothered with. If they have the right to not publish an app on a specific platform say my Apple watch or my HP Printer. Apple has the same right too not accept any developers app if they so choose. It's their platform.
Didn't Xbox launch a service in 2002 selling digital games with a similar 30% cut?
Epic Games is being nice asking Apple to restore it's Fortnite game in South Korea since Apple is legally required to restore the application since Apple has to allow third party payment vendors on it's platform in South Korea.
I couldn't say, I don't know much about the Xbox as it was/is largely ignored here.
Apple is required to allow third party payment methods. They are not legally required to restore a application from a company that broke their contract. This is not a magical win for Epic, they are still in the wrong.
The problem is Apple's contract in South Korea is illegal since you can not ban somebody for using a third party payment vendor. If Apple wants to play this game Epic will get a court order forcing Apple to restore their access to the Apple App Store in South Korea.
Nope, Apple's contract is still legal in South Korea until the law changes. But a change in law does not mean that a previous offence is forgiven. Epic are banned from the AppStore and Google Play, that ban happened long before this law will come into effect. Apple can if they choose say that all is forgiven and let Epic in, or they can decide to continue not working with a company that has proven to be untrustworthy.
No such third party payment requirement exists as we spreak. Not in the US or not yet at least. That’s why there is a pending suit about it and it hasn’t been decided.
What other counties do in their courts is mostly done with the purpose of protecting their local businesses. We see rules being imposed by governments to foreign companies all the time. This is not anything new or anything related to what is right or wrong. Every rule has its own reasoning which may not be the same rule or reasoning in other parts of the world.
If Apple is forced to allow 3rd party app stores, I expect the first thing they will do is put security warnings on them to scare off the majority of users. Cue another legal battle.
If they are forced to allow alternative payment methods, I would expect a change in app store developer conditions along the lines of "Apps including 3rd party payment options must cost a minimum of $X to purchase from the app store. Free and low cost apps are not permitted to use 3rd party payment schemes." Then I would expect them to make Fortnite users pay that entry fee every damn season.
If they are forced to allow alternative payment methods, I would expect a change in app store developer conditions along the lines of "Apps including 3rd party payment options must cost a minimum of $X to purchase from the app store. Free and low cost apps are not permitted to use 3rd party payment schemes." Then I would expect them to make Fortnite users pay that entry fee every damn season.
"The exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service."
I don't think Google or Apple has any exclusive possession, control of supply or trade of a commodity or service.
Can you buy EPIC games on platforms not owned by Apple or Google? Yes, you can. You can go to a store and purchase vBUCKS. You can go to EPIC and purchase vBUCKS. You can go to Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Best Buy, Target, aka "stores" and by vBUCKS and or the physical game. There is no monopoly. They are not even being monopolistic in their business practices. They haven't pushed out a competitor by any illegal means. To my knowledge they have not operated outside of the bounds of any physical store. If anything they are cheaper, and offer MORE than a physical store could or would.