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Epic will see a drop in revenue long before Apple will. And they’re going to lose on Monday too, so it’ll be up to Epic: 70% of millions, or 100% of $0.00.

Many kids wouldn't buy iPhones if it did not run Fortnite. I think you underestimate the immense popularity among the younger generation. Fortnite mobile has over 200M users.
 
Of course they did. They didn't just knowingly circumvent a major App Store policy and start a huge PR/legal war just because they felt like they wanted a few more dollars on top of their already massive profits. They wanted to leverage their popularity to get the insider (read: Amazon) treatment, which Apple denied probably because they are an upstart one-trick pony, hence they got their feelings hurt and decided to go nuclear.
 
Say whataboutism?

How is it whataboutism? I think it is a valid counterargument to anyone who says the iPhone experience would be bad without Apple's App Store policies. The Mac has existed without the Mac App Store for a long time and in my mind is an incredible user experience when it comes to applications (if anything, arguably better than the iPhone).
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since when do kids buy their own phones o_O

They terrorise their parents until they get one. Potatoe potato ;)
 
Many kids wouldn't buy iPhones if it did not run Fortnite. I think you underestimate the immense popularity among the younger generation. Fortnite mobile has over 200M users.
I didn’t say fortnite wasn’t popular, I said Epic will feel the pain first. That’s the hypothetical you proposed (and that I answered) but that has nothing whatsoever to do with popularity, right?
 
Seems to be Apple's decision to cut a deal with Amazon and actions like a flat 30% for everybody else is what is biting them. It's certainly not greed, plenty of that to go around. <--(sarcasm)

To hear Epic, Apple is a greedy corporate overlord who victimizes the small developer. Epic certainly won't complain about the near-identical fee arrangement they have for Microsoft (for the Xbox) and Sony (the PlayStation), because they sell their consoles at a loss, right? So nice of Epic to throw them a bone. BTW, Microsoft and Sony also lock down their own app stores, just like Apple does - so they're not "open" either. Boo-hoo, Epic won't complain about the two main sources that constitute over 70% of their bottom line, of course not.

Apple could really save face here by just switching to a graduated fee system based upon gross sales over a given time period. New, smaller developers who qualify could get a fee waiver for a specific amount of time. Epic could go @#$%* itself and the self-martyring dead horse it rode in on.
 
Many kids wouldn't buy iPhones if it did not run Fortnite. I think you underestimate the immense popularity among the younger generation. Fortnite mobile has over 200M users.
However, not all those users have the $ to swap devices just for a game as they are kids. Specially when they can switch over to other similar games like Freefire, Legends, or PUBG.
 
How is it whataboutism? I think it is a valid counterargument to anyone who says the iPhone experience would be bad without Apple's App Store policies. The Mac has existed without the Mac App Store for a long time and in my mind is an incredible user experience when it comes to applications (if anything, arguably better than the iPhone).
Nobody was talking about the Mac. Except you... “but what about the Mac?”

Whataboutism is not valid counter argument.
 
I didn’t say fortnite wasn’t popular, I said Epic will feel the pain first. That’s the hypothetical you proposed (and that I answered) but that has nothing whatsoever to do with popularity, right?

Depends what you mean with pain? If Apple decides to remotely delete all installed Fortnite applications from all iPhones worldwide, then Epic would "feel the pain". However, it would also put Apple under immense pressure in lieu of all the regulatory antitrust measures it has lined up against itself. Not to mention the court of public opinion. Does Apple really want to take away the most popular app from kids? Long term implications can be very negative.

Fortnite on the other hand was a large success before it even went to the iPhone. For sure they would feel a hit but it is not like Epic is going anywhere.
 
Why is Apple so petty that they want to remove their developer account? I presume they pay for that. Their Fortnite app violated the rules, they removed the account and so be it.

Do they terminate the developer accounts of every other legit developer that has an app rejected?

Or is Apple just digging their heels in, cuz they know their monopoly might get slashed?
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LOL, there are plenty of JUNK apps that do not violate the terms, and that sours the experience of many users...


Facebook broke the rules and yes Apple pulled their cert for it...
 
Depends what you mean with pain? If Apple decides to remotely delete all installed Fortnite applications from all iPhones worldwide, then Epic would "feel the pain". However, it would also put Apple under immense pressure in lieu of all the regulatory antitrust measures it has lined up against itself. Not to mention the court of public opinion. Does Apple really want to take away the most popular app from kids? Long term implications can be very negative.

Fortnite on the other hand was a large success before it even went to the iPhone. For sure they would feel a hit but it is not like Epic is going anywhere.
You are missing that Fortnite must update to continue working for users. By blocking it from the App store, they have effectively done just that.
 
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