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Epic Games Sought Side Deal for Fortnite Prior to Lawsuit, Apple Says in Court Filing [Updated]
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Depends whether they keep the existing binary compatible with new content. I’d imagine they calculated they’d be able to operate for long enough with the existing binary to get this settled.
You rent a house in a crappy neighbourhood with no police presence or security it costs you $150 a night
You rent that exact same house in a safe, peaceful subdivision in a nice city it costs you $300
Did I say it was wrong?
Don’t mis-state my position in an attempt to find something you’d prefer to argue about.
They won't. That's exactly why Epic are having their big event next week.
Nothing. Until they then declared this week that that's sonething they were NOT seeking.
So, Epic LIED. Go figure!
Or possibly you could just tell us about ”all the companies” rather than trolling the “fanboys” BS. Other than 15% on continuing subscriptions, which is a different category, and Amazon’s special deal, please tell us about these other companies we don’t know about.
Is your issue is the 30% fee and closed system? Why don’t you do some research on the other platforms using the same formula. Guess what? Epic does business with Microsoft and Sony, just to get you started. The level of ignorance regarding this subject that members are so proud to display is truly disheartening. If you want a better understanding of the legal ramifications check out this video. There is a very interesting battle going on here and it is even more interesting with just a little more information and a little less “in my opinion”.
I have no issue with developers wanting to pay less money, that would be great for developers. But enough of the “paying for nothing” and “monopoly“ statements because they just make members sound uninformed.
I see that as just more PR and goading Apple. They’ve already had their anti Apple propaganda plastered all over the game.
I don’t see this ever reaching court. My money is on Epic realising their strategy isn’t working and rolling over just as Spotify did. They’ll probably end up with no in-app purchases (or in app marketplace) and have a web only system for mobile players - which to be fair I’ve never understood why they don’t offer anyway.
I don't see why this is is an issue. The App store belongs to Apple. They can do with their property as they see fit. And if there are no longer property rights, what's to stop people from posting their games on Epic's store without paying Epic a cut?
Apple will not back down. To them, this is on a similar scale to "creating a back door" for government agencies to gather data from iPhones to investigate criminal behavior. It's a matter of principal to Apple. I am not predicting Apple will win or lose, but I will "predict" there will be appeal after appeal if they do lose.
Not following you. If Apple and Epic and come to a side agreement, none of this drama would have happened, and no other developers would have known. No floodgates opened.
The problem was that Epic wanted a special deal from Apple, but had nothing (of interest) to offer in return, apparently.
Most kids with iPhones probably also own a console from either Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft. Even more ironic is where in a pandemic where a lot of people are home anyway not needing to play mobile unless it’s a preference.
I was thinking the same thing. All the time Epic has spent on this negative Apple campaign, the money they are spending on lawyers, they could have been working on this, introduced it and be making a fortune with the iOS platform and avoided paying the 30%.
https://www.cultofmac.com/319040/apple-only-takes-15-cut-on-hbo-now-netflix-and-hulu-subscriptions/ <- 2015
https://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/13/apple-15-percent-cut-apple-tv-apps/ <- 2015
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ut-fees-video-services-will-pay-for-app-store <- 2016
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/16/apple-halving-subscription-video-fees/ <- 2016
What is a non-continuing subscription?
Also note that those articles point out CABLE companies were taking 50% cuts from companies like HBO.
Can somebody explain how this Restraining Order thing would even work? The way i read it is as though you are a married person and have an affair, your partner kicks you out the house because you broke the contract of your marriage and so you file a restraining order to allow you to share the same house. I just seems completely backwards to me.
Also why there needs to be a legal hearing on whether Apple can remove Fortnite for breaking the Guidelines (Contract) seems completely wrong and pointless, as long as both sides had a contract that was signed then it should be the business of nobody else as to the repercussions of that
Also why there needs to be a legal hearing on whether Apple can remove Fortnite for breaking the Guidelines (Contract) seems completely wrong and pointless, as long as both sides had a contract that was signed then it should be the business of nobody else as to the repercussions of that
You shouldn't take Apple's and this article's claims at face value. It's not as simple as this article makes it seem. From Tim's email:
More emails here
As a funny aside, there is an error in the last sentence of the email I quoted from:
The "special deal" Phil is referencing is the Epic Games store and competitive/alternative payment rates, which Epic disclosed in their original filing and which forms the basis of their argument. I fail to see how there's anything new here but spin...
Kudos to Apple though for trying to mask the truth like Big Brother, almost as if it is... 1984
Kudos to Apple though for trying to mask the truth like Big Brother, almost as if it is... 1984
I love my Mac but outside of productivity or utilities there aren’t many valuable apps available.
Read the update. It would make no sense to send an email that would become available for everyone to see to try to get a secret deal days before suing Apple