Yeah they’ve had their panties in a wad for at least a couple years. Whatevs 🙄
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Epic Games, Spotify, and Tile Form 'Coalition for App Fairness' to 'Fight Back' Against Apple
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I hear this complaint a lot. To me it means tile doesn’t have a complete product. It’s not a new issue so what have they don’t to solve this? As far as I can tell they have complained.
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Also, they are owned by Tencent.
Indeed, classic Apple fanboyism right here. I may not approve of all of the companies on this list, I utterly despise Tile for the constant nagging they do about features I don't need to use the product without their subscription, but a 30% cut for not strictly necessary functionality (CDN, notification backend, "marketing", IAP... these are all things developers can implement on their own dime) they force onto developers is ****ing insane, everyone should be able to see that to be frank.
Spotify with apps: We're the little guys! It isn't fair!
Spotify with podcasts: We're gonna throw the millions around and make sure the good stuff can't be listened to anywhere else. YOLO!
Spotify with podcasts: We're gonna throw the millions around and make sure the good stuff can't be listened to anywhere else. YOLO!
Hypocritical to say the least. Should be free. That’s what they think they should pay Apple
So Apple is an evil monopoly at 30%, but at 15% everything is hunky-dorey?
Look, I can agree 30% is a lot and some of these developers want to negotiate a better deal. But, the thing I can't stand the most is hypocrisy. These companies are dressing it up like some righteous battle against "greed" but in reality they are just trying to improve their own bottom line. At least be honest about it.
Not to mention Epic game store itself. Epic is literally the last company to speak about "customer freedom" — they are the one's bribing game developers to get their games locked into Epic's distribution platform.
In other words, you don’t know what the 30% covers.
Epic charges 12% for listing and distribution only. Payment processing is on you. If you also want your finances to be processed, Epic charges up to 25% (depending on payment method). For their 30% Apple offers much more.
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I prefer the term, "parasite."
These are companies. I have no loyalty. Give me a good product and a lower price and I’ll jump any time.
As reported on this site a few days ago, Epic has no right to complain, having been such a pain in the butt resources hog to Apple for so long. They got a bargain and should shut up. I can’t really address the other companies as to what their beefs are. But Epic has been a complete toddler.
If all major apps go into the coalition and pull theirs, you think it's go well for Apple?
Surely a handful of customers don’t get to decide what Apple will charge.
The sheer arrogance of these companies is astounding. Can you imagine if this was a bricks and mortar store?
“Thanks for building and designing the shop, providing the shelving, and helping customers find our products, but we’d quite like to not to have to pay you anything for being here. We’ve also brought our own payment terminals and we think you should let us use all your wiring for free. I know you have a brand and think you can choose what you want to stock but we’ve made some decent money up to now and we don’t see why we should continue to behave like suppliers. No we won’t be giving you anything from the payments we take directly. In fact, rather than using your shop, it’s utilities and features for free, just give us permission to build our own shop on your car park, we’d like to use the same blueprints too. Thanks”.
There is zero real-world precedence for their App Store principle list that applies in any other competitive market. They need to get real.
“Thanks for building and designing the shop, providing the shelving, and helping customers find our products, but we’d quite like to not to have to pay you anything for being here. We’ve also brought our own payment terminals and we think you should let us use all your wiring for free. I know you have a brand and think you can choose what you want to stock but we’ve made some decent money up to now and we don’t see why we should continue to behave like suppliers. No we won’t be giving you anything from the payments we take directly. In fact, rather than using your shop, it’s utilities and features for free, just give us permission to build our own shop on your car park, we’d like to use the same blueprints too. Thanks”.
There is zero real-world precedence for their App Store principle list that applies in any other competitive market. They need to get real.
Enjoy developers starting to revolt, pissed at being Apple's bitches. This is just the beginning.
Pretty sure I know who wrote this stuff, the CEO of ProtonMail. This guy is absolutely delusional. His public statements regarding Apple are insane.
I don't disagree. But this won't solve the fundamental problem. Let's say that Apple reduces the tax to 10%. But how would that prevent a company like Epic from claiming that it's still too much? As long as they can spin a convincing story (having million of underage customers who are easily manipulated helps), the actual tax amount doesn't matter much.
So Apple should drop the 30% to 27-28% and let other credit card processors compete for the 2-3% payment processing fees?
Apple has the volume to offer very competitive rates for payment processing, good luck trying to undercut them.
AT&T, Verizon and T-mobile should start asking Apple for 30% of their revenue, you would be OK with that right? I mean, they build it and Apple is leeching of them.
I'm banning Fortnite from my house!
That reminds me, must delete epic games account... done! Haven’t touched it in ages, only had free games, didn’t give any of my real info because I didn’t trust them. their store didn’t do developers any good from my lack of purchasing. Spent lots more in Apple App Store.