No they are not shining lights but what they are doing is bringing Apple’s business strategy from behind closed doors into the public
Spotify isnt going to offer discounts or cheaper prices.
They were banned for not complying with a system that the courts have now found to be illegal. I could be fired for refusing to return half my wages to my employer in the form of kickbacks and I would have been fired “for a reason,” but it’s a bad reason and it’s illegal, so surely that counts for something.
You do realize that Apple has been referred for potential criminal contempt charges, with one executive lying under oath and others potentially implicated by internal documents intentionally withheld by Apple under false claims of privilege, right? I know this is Mac Rumors and there’s a strong contingent here that feels that Apple is the second-coming of John Galt, but considering that Phil Schiller voiced concerns that Apple’s actions may be illegal and now Alex Roman may literally be headed to jail, are you really sure Tim & company are going to continue to allow their actions to be dictated by a petty grudge against Tim Sweeney and strategic calculations about how fully complying with a lower court order will look on appeal?
it’s not about cheaper prices for Spotify for example
Nobody is disputing that
The system wasn’t found to be illegal. In fact, the courts ruled that the system was legal! Epic was in the wrong, Apple was within its rights to ban them, Apple wasn’t a monopoly, didn’t have to allow alternate app stores, and Epic owed Apple 30% of the revenue Epic got for cheating.
If Apple make no money from the AppStore then why run it?
I didn’t see anywhere in that article where Apple says Macs don’t get viruses. Maybe read the article again?
it sounds like you would be more happy with an a$$droid phone. I suspect you already have an android phone unless you’re a glutton for punishment.
it’s not about finding that Apple is a monopoly or not
I never said Apple doesn’t make money from the app store or shouldn’t make money from the app store not once
The company that Spotify is hasnt changed. And what happens to epic in the long term in the US still remains to be seen.
Apples business strategy is sound, even if you are against it. This is not the right thread to go into a debate about the why of regulation, however what happens to Eoic remains to be seen.
Because the same laws that would be acceptable in the US unfortunately wouldn’t fly in the eu. Even if the eu app had fleeced customers, Apple probably couldn’t have Banned them. Bad for consumer.
If Apple will win this appeal, epic will be gone.
If Apple’s business strategy is sound then epic will have no issues whatsoever going back on the USA ios App Store
Since when does it matter on MR that one has to use a company’s products to be critical?
That's like Al Capone asking the judge to allow his racketeering organization to continue to do business because racketeering/extorsion are "core aspects of its business operations".
Even leaving the appeal aside, why would they allow it? It’s obvious they won’t get any money out of it. So what do they have to win? The court order has nothing to do with this topic so they are in no obligation to allow them.
I don’t see anything wrong with them blocking Epic. They violated their agreement, the fact that now the judge rules apple a monopoly doesn’t change what Epic did.
I’m not saying that nobody can be critical of things however the things some are critical of just so happens to be companies that have taking Apple to court or part of current government investigation
Apple wasn’t ruled a monopoly.
It’s a different matter for observers to be critical than companies who filed lawsuits.
I’m not prescient but I can’t see Apple allowing epic back in the us iOS App Store even if they lose. Thst point was affirmed in the original lawsuit epic filed.
