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Eric Schmidt on Google Now for iOS: 'You'll Need to Discuss That With Apple' [Updated]
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Fun fact: Android will reach 1 billion cumulative devices sold in 2013, and an estimated 2.3 billion in 2015. Apple is estimated to reach 530 million cumulative in 2013 and 1 billion in 2015.
In other words, there will almost be shipped more android devices this year, than apples cumulative number of iPhones made.
It is a shame I am leaving work in 7 minutes. I would be tempted to draw a representation of that. Picture a clothed table with coffee. Schmidt is sipping his with a surprised look on his face while Steve is standing on his chair with one foot on the table which is slightly tipped towards him. Above him he is swinging a large rattlesnake in a circular pattern... much like a bola. Fire seething from his eyes while he bares his teeth at Eric.
Eric being Eric (subtle laughter). You're a thief Eric. Remember the coffee with Steve at the outdoor Cafe? Choke on it.
I think comments like this are disgusting and users should be reprimanded by forum moderators.
Eric Schmidt has not been arrested, charged or convicted of any crime. Neither has he been sued by Apple under civil law.
In the UK, we believe in the saying "Innocent till proven guilty" - I thought Americans such as yourself believed in this just as much if not more.
You need to find time to draw this. For the betterment of the world, it must be done.
No, you see Apple only wants to direct relevant ads to its customers. They are just trying to make it better for the iOS users!
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Steve's of course! I am tempted to begin this work at home unless other things demand my attention.
No, you see Apple only wants to direct relevant ads to its customers. They are just trying to make it better for the iOS users!
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The problem some people have is recognizing that Google is amazingly successful with their ad program at the same time recognizing that Apple WISHES their ad program was as successful. They verbally "punish" Google for this and Apple gets a free pass because clearly iAds is just a "hobby."
So Apple gets this free pass because they haven't been able to succeed with their program. If they had - they'd still get a free pass - because there'd be some other convoluted explanation.
You tell em! And I think I should have the choice to run MAC apps on my Windows PC if I want to. Natively! And really, us iDevice users should be able to run Windows 8 RT on our devices if we wanted to. Why should Apple dictate what OS we run on our own hardware? Just ain't right! We demand more choices!! Right "little people"? Oh You left out ABC, ATF and LMNOP above <sigh> Sorry couldn't resist.
Ah... the 'nibble-away' strategy.
So you're not disputing that Google collects 'information', and want to spar over what's 'personal' or not.
So Google merely packages browser type and OS versions into their demographic offerings to advertisers, and that this is how they pay all there employees?
Why would they ever make an email system? What does that give them over information gleamed by search results? Why the iOS knock-off? You can trust them at their word that they scramble all your data, but that's not the reputation they've earned.
Your contrarian powers have faltered. Think different, cause you're doing it wrong.
Ah... the 'nibble-away' strategy.
So you're not disputing that Google collects 'information', and want to spar over what's 'personal' or not.
So Google merely packages browser type and OS versions into their demographic offerings to advertisers, and that this is how they pay all there employees?
Why would they ever make an email system? What does that give them over information gleamed by search results? Why the iOS knock-off? You can trust them at their word that they scramble all your data, but that's not the reputation they've earned.
Your contrarian powers have faltered. Think different, cause you're doing it wrong.
You make a lot of assumptions but clearly are so knowledgeable - so you seem like a good person to ask. How much tin foil do I need to buy to make a proper hat?
Now the ball is in Google's court. They should come out and say either that they have submitted and Apple is lying, or that Schmidt was being misleading in his somewhat vague wink-wink comments and that they haven't submitted.
If what he meant was that they haven't submitted because they assume it would be rejected, he should have come out and said that.
If Google doesn't respond, it's going to be hard to not come to the conclusion that they haven't submitted and were just trying to be cute.
If what he meant was that they haven't submitted because they assume it would be rejected, he should have come out and said that.
If Google doesn't respond, it's going to be hard to not come to the conclusion that they haven't submitted and were just trying to be cute.
Because Apple always responds? And yet when Apple does the same - most people here just refute the rumor anyway.
Apple says they don't pass along or utilize personal data, and they have never given us a reason to doubt that.
Google says the same thing, and they've been caught lying more than once.
Apples and orange Poodles, my friend.
Fandroids love the moral equivalency argument, pointless as it is. Even if Apple is totally scummy, Google is still scummy. So even in your wildest fantasy attempts, belittling Apple doesn't help you save Google's reputation. Arf.
Resorting to calling people fandroids is silly just because some people don't have the same beliefs you do. I don't think anyone is doing what you're saying. No one is trying to save Google (or Apple's) reputation.
This thread is hilarious though. Eric Schmidt made a factual statement (doesn't matter if the app was or was not submitted) and people have gone to the typical arguments about privacy, theft, thermonuclear, etc.
Are you arguing against me, or some random person inside your head, and projecting them on my username or something?
I've never once denied that Google collects data on you. It's how they make their money. What I'm arguing is that the data Google does collect is fairly innocuous, pretty anonymous, and isn't good for anything cept statistical data for advertisement. Like people who go to Macrumors, aged 21-32, tend to also visit Cult of Mac, and shop for watches. Stuff like that.
It's just analytics. I don't find anything particularly scary about that. If they did collect more, like this one guy claiming that they had access to your private medical records in the last OMG GOOGLE thread, then yeah, I'd be concerned. But considering their business practices have been combed through during an extensive antitrust lawsuit, and certain members of congress are breathing down their necks over privacy issues, no one's had too much to complain about.
You know. I can understand if you don't like the idea of them tracking even what they do. It's totally subjective. I could care less myself, so long as they keep it limited to what they currently collect. But if they do start getting a little creepy, I can always use something else.
Do you even know what a contrarian is? I'm not taking up for Google because everyone else is taking up for Apple. I'm arguing because most of the complaints some people have about them are based upon highly exaggerated information.
I'm not really taking up for Google here at all. It's more like I'm telling you how wrong you are.
I've never once denied that Google collects data on you. It's how they make their money. What I'm arguing is that the data Google does collect is fairly innocuous, pretty anonymous, and isn't good for anything cept statistical data for advertisement. Like people who go to Macrumors, aged 21-32, tend to also visit Cult of Mac, and shop for watches. Stuff like that.
It's just analytics. I don't find anything particularly scary about that. If they did collect more, like this one guy claiming that they had access to your private medical records in the last OMG GOOGLE thread, then yeah, I'd be concerned. But considering their business practices have been combed through during an extensive antitrust lawsuit, and certain members of congress are breathing down their necks over privacy issues, no one's had too much to complain about.
You know. I can understand if you don't like the idea of them tracking even what they do. It's totally subjective. I could care less myself, so long as they keep it limited to what they currently collect. But if they do start getting a little creepy, I can always use something else.
Do you even know what a contrarian is? I'm not taking up for Google because everyone else is taking up for Apple. I'm arguing because most of the complaints some people have about them are based upon highly exaggerated information.
I'm not really taking up for Google here at all. It's more like I'm telling you how wrong you are.
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Some research firm. Of course it is only estimates, but if their momentum holds, it will happen.
http://www.zdnet.com/android-cumulative-shipments-to-hit-1-billion-mark-in-2013-7000004074/
My advice to you: I think you'll need to purchase them in bulk at Costco judging by all the posts here.
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There's that lame old moral equivalency argument. You're taking issue with me about Google's bs, Apple's supposed bs doesn't help you. Keep paddling.
I guess.
Sure he did, he's such a great guy, no attempt whatsoever to mislead or give the impression that Apple was holding up Google's app.
Class act, that Eric Schmidt, clearly a visionary without equal.
Here's your buddy now, happy?
It doesn't matter as long as they intend to submit an iOS version. He probably just deflected it due to an unclear future for the app on iOS. Presenters often keep things simple to minimize the ability of others to later misconstrue their words.
Your goal here is obvious.
