Which monopoly are you referring to?When you’re considered abusing monopolistic behaviors governments can get this specific if they so choose. Doesn’t matter if you agree with them on that or not.
Which monopoly are you referring to?When you’re considered abusing monopolistic behaviors governments can get this specific if they so choose. Doesn’t matter if you agree with them on that or not.
That is how most companies operate in the US, which is why we are so confused by the EU’s actions here. My GE refrigerator can only use GE water filters. We don’t force GE to advertise LG products and allow me to ou
Apple has abused the consumer for long enough that lots of you have been Stockholm Syndromed into believing that abuse is the way things should be.
It‘s a petty move by Apple to cause a stir and turn costumers in the EU against the DMA.A bit of a side-question, but I am still curious to know why Apple Intelligence, as it is now, is not compatible with the DMA?
No. Apple Intelligence currently focuses on on-device processing of personal data. Your own data and relationships.
I think that's the problem...The EU seems to think that American firms would not be what they are without European consumers but by simply looking at the data, it's clear that there are other markets - even outside of China and Europe that contribute to Apple's overall success. To some, that's typical European arrogance - "If it weren't for us..." Truth is, the older generations failed Europe because there's not enough working folks to service the debt so there's really not much to look forward to, from a market/consumption standpoint, I'm afraid.
Writing is on the wall and US firms will pivot accordingly if there is any risk to margin.
It happens that you leave your small garden and you feel the freedom.What happens when apps leave the App Store and I need to download five different stores, reenter my payment details for each one, and then manage subscriptions across multiple accounts? How is that "nothing changing" for me?
There is a reason why Apple is a trillion dollar company. It is because they make products that WORK. They design the hardware and software together so they are connected and function smoothly.“Oh no! Won’t somebody please defend/think of the trillion dollar corporations!”
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The problem is that american firms would do the business in EU as they were in US.I think that's the problem...The EU seems to think that American firms would not be what they are without European consumers but by simply looking at the data, it's clear that there are other markets - even outside of China and Europe that contribute to Apple's overall success. To some, that's typical European arrogance - "If it weren't for us..." Truth is, the older generations failed Europe because there's not enough working folks to service the debt so there's really not much to look forward to, from a market/consumption standpoint, I'm afraid.
Writing is on the wall and US firms will pivot accordingly if there is any risk to margin.
Can you prove your statement?Wow. Every single one of these complaints is 100% bought and paid for by Spotify and other E.U. member lobby.
I though that there are no virus on a$$le, that the os was the safest.if you want to open up your phone to spyware and malware and have unstable shovelware that sucks down your phones resources, then just buy an Android.
Sorry but you are referring to a time looooooooooooong ago. Apple, „just works“ was the mantra of Jobs but not of Tim Cook.There is a reason why Apple is a trillion dollar company. It is because they make products that WORK. They design the hardware and software together so they are connected and function smoothly.
EU doesn‘t brake anything it just forces Apple to allow competition.Everything the EU is doing is breaking the things that make iOS a great platform. Stability, security, privacy simplicity, integration with the hardware… opening the floodgates to every third party to install whatever they want is just going to ruin the whole experience.
if you want to open up your phone to spyware and malware and have unstable shovelware that sucks down your phones resources, then just buy an Android.
If a company builds a beautiful car, but it doesn't have any rearview or side mirrors (and for the sake of argument no replacements for them like cameras, which is another can of worms anyway frankly), then the solution isn't to buy another car, it's to tell that manufacturer to **** off and do it right.If a consumer discretionary for profit corporation is legal in its dealings, you buy another product that suits you better.
There's a fair amount of complaining going on in this report for sure, but to say that Apple "changed" already is very misleading, they did the absolute minimum they thought they could get away with, and they ignored huge swathes of the legislation they didn't agree with and started a legal fight over those clauses being against EU law instead.Hey guys, now that the big bully tech company has changed, let’s remind them of all the things they did to annoy us
There’s a reason why all those android app stores are niche and why forcing Apple to give its users tons of choices will actually make the system less desirable. I’ve said this before. The science-denying DMA lovers like to deride it, but here goes again…
It’s often called The Paradox of Choice (the title of a book about the subject). People actually don’t want lots of choice. It leads to decision fatigue, indecision, avoidance, and dissatisfaction. People prefer a small number of choices and they prefer to make their choice and stick with it (e.g. brand loyalty) unless some major event forces them to rethink it. These results come out of several fields: behavioral psychology, behavioral economics, and behavioral marketing.
People who’ve studied the science or have an MBA from a half-way decent program know this. People who rely on their gut and their “common sense” (read, uninformed prejudice) think more choice is always better.
You can use your phone as Tim Cook intended. I don't know why anyone would use an iPhone without apps from independent developers, but it's certainly possible.No thank you. I love my iPhone and iPad just as they are, without third party crap, and without iOS changes to support third party crap. The EU can go F itself here. And I’m writing this from Europe, to be clear.
It’s not about apps from independent developers. It’s about alternative app stores, and all the code needed to support that.You can use your phone as Tim Cook intended. I don't know why anyone would use an iPhone without apps from independent developers, but it's certainly possible.
Meta is also a gatekeeper. Google too. EU is basically telling them to play nice or else. Not that I mind.
And government absolutely should do the same for software interoperability.
It‘s a petty move by Apple to cause a stir and turn costumers in the EU against the DMA.
Nothing stops Apple from releasing the 3 missing headline features in the EU other than their try at making the DMA look bad.
they did the absolute minimum they thought they could get away with,
and they ignored huge swathes of the legislation they didn't agree with and started a legal fight over those clauses being against EU law instead.
Thats codswallop. Its either made up or massively misunderstood. Its just doesn't work like that. You need to actually change the region as to where your appstore is. To do that you need a local bank card and a local address. Travelling to the EU from a non EU country does nothing to your phone. Stop spreading fud.I've had two family members who went to the EU this July for vacation. Ever since their phones have been messed up due to geo-detection and the changes Apple installed on their phones to comply with the EU. It rendered their phones almost useless when they got back to the States. I even had to get one of their phones traded in at the Apple Store. So, taking phones back and forth between the US and the EU is becoming a real issue, and it's definitely affecting Americans too.
There will be an even bigger risk to margin if Apple decide to not sell in the EU and Europe and kiss goodbye to 25%-28% of their annual revenue.I think that's the problem...The EU seems to think that American firms would not be what they are without European consumers but by simply looking at the data, it's clear that there are other markets - even outside of China and Europe that contribute to Apple's overall success. To some, that's typical European arrogance - "If it weren't for us..." Truth is, the older generations failed Europe because there's not enough working folks to service the debt so there's really not much to look forward to, from a market/consumption standpoint, I'm afraid.
Writing is on the wall and US firms will pivot accordingly if there is any risk to margin.
Technically, wrong. Apple’s margin in EU might be lower due to all the extra cost of all these features, so leaving EU might increase their overall margin.There will be an even bigger risk to margin if Apple decide to not sell in the EU and Europe and kiss goodbye to 25%-28% of their annual revenue.
That looks like something I read on 'didn't happen of the week'.I've had two family members who went to the EU this July for vacation. Ever since their phones have been messed up due to geo-detection and the changes Apple installed on their phones to comply with the EU. It rendered their phones almost useless when they got back to the States. I even had to get one of their phones traded in at the Apple Store. So, taking phones back and forth between the US and the EU is becoming a real issue, and it's definitely affecting Americans too.
Maybe, I haven't looked into margins and pre-tax costs to be honest as I have never needed to.Technically, wrong. Apple’s margin in EU might be lower due to all the extra cost of all these features, so leaving EU might increase their overall margin.
Now, if you talk about their revenue, yes, and profit as well. But not margin.
Those are the figures now, yes. However, overregulation and demographic concerns will affect Apple’s margin so while I don’t see them exiting - they will not release features that could result in fines. Either way, EU consumer will miss out.There will be an even bigger risk to margin if Apple decide to not sell in the EU and Europe and kiss goodbye to 25%-28% of their annual revenue.
Aside from the rather obvious fact that the EU is the base of many tech companies, this comment is rather missing the point.Europe can always start tech companies too…