Exactly, new technology, better product, but that will never happen according to our friend.
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Abazigal
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Chrome wasn’t preinstalled on windows, and it didn’t stop millions of users from installing it as the first thing they did with any new PC.
Nintendo adopts the same static strategy across the entire world. Sony adopts the same static strategy across the entire world. Both closed ecosystems. And, there’s more companies than just them. That’s quite literally how tech business is done around the world. The EU just doesn’t understand the tech business which is why there are no tech businesses in the region (and they’re scaring away any new ones).
But ONLY when their names are Google and Apple and not Sony or Nintendo or Microsoft or any number of other companies with closed solutions. Got it. 🙂
And you’re parroting the EU regulator mindset. “If a company is successful, there’s GOT to be something wrong with it! It can’t be because people buy what they like! As we can’t abide such success here, we’ll regulate them so hard, they’ll leave the region or get bought by a company from outside the region. That’ll teach them not to bring any world class solutions to the market in THIS region!!”
You would have been blindsided by the success of the iPhone if you had been around before then. 🙂
It’s IMPOSSIBLE to explain it to you because, in your mind, the money is everything. Every company must start with billions/trillions of dollars or they won’t be successful. In 1977, when Apple was founded, they MUST have had hundreds of millions of dollars because there’s no way a company without massive amounts of money could have made a computer that eventually becomes the best selling PC in the world.
Finding a market niche and selling that makes those folks delighted to buy? Hmm, that sentence does not contain money OR developers, so can’t be it. Oh, and, since they were eventually successful, we NOW no that no one becomes successful by playing fair, so, no, it 100% can’t be that they know how to produce devices and services that people value and want to spend money on!
If someone comes out with a product BETTER than what Apple’s currently producing? I would most CERTAINLY leave the Apple ecosystem, no question. Why would I willingly continue to use a device that offers a poorer experience when I can use my money to buy a BETTER experience?
Yeah, you can’t force people to have an imagination. 🙂 It’s like thinking that EVERY time I’ve seen you throw a ball up, it’s come back down. BUT, this last time you threw it? I’m 100% certain that it will never come down again!
The success story literally writes itself! Find a niche, cater to that niche, make customers happy and developers will want to deliver solutions to those happy customers.
right & how’s that going to happen when Microsoft has dominated the desktop market for decades & yet still no successful challenger
Funny that isn’t
Just like android the way the market is setup then people can create a new os or search engine however it’s very unlikely it’s going to become popular because google give their product away for free
So how can you undercut them for a start
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Mate I had a Commodore 64 if you even know what that is?
ok it’s not about that
Explain to me how anyone that makes a new os in mobile in the west
Can realistically compete with a 2 trillion dollar company that gives there OS away for free to every company apart from Apple
How is a startup able to compete with that
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That’s because it’s on every mobile device practically pre installed in the west
So ultimately what’s going to happen is because you use it in mobile & potentially signed into it then your less likely to use another search engine on windows
Hence the issue
Right if that’s the case then why is there no dedicated instagram app for the ipad
& you have to use the iPhone version?
Instead of quoting history
Then you still haven’t explained to me
If google give android away for free to every company & apps are already there for it
& there is a customer base of over 2 billion users.
Then how can a startup company compete with that.
Abazigal
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If you asked people how they planned to compete with BlackBerry prior to 2007, nobody would have described the iPhone either.
Right I get that & I had a blackberry
However google give their OS away for free
To everyone and that’s not going to change.
Hence the issue
Right
But my question is if google give android away for Free
Meaning you don’t have to pay to license it & it’s got 2 billion active users & everybody’s apps are on it.
Then how can a new company breakthrough without major financial backing & developers making apps for it with zero market share
Microsoft tried it
Amazon tried it
Even blackberry tried it with a touchscreen os & it failed
Because developers wouldn’t make apps for their products
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If that’s the issue, why isn’t the EU regulating that, rather than forcing iOS to turn into an open ecosystem?
Because how can you regulate a company like google who give their OS away for free to everyone and that’s the problem
Because you can make a new mobile os but it’s very unlikely going to be successful because of that & financial
Abazigal
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With the disclaimer that I am but a teacher (so take whatever I am going to say with a giant grain of salt), I would say that the answer is not to try and replicate the iOS / Android smartphone ecosystem in its entirety, but to push for a new equilibrium. It could be AI, it could be some new technological platform I have not heard of. In short, don’t try to compete with smartphones but instead look towards moving beyond the smartphone.
Remember that Google makes no money off android. Their business model is ultimately in selling ads, so you have to attack them where their money is.
Maybe still easier said than done, which is why I am sitting here after dinner replying to you and not pitching investment ideas to venture capitalists.
This conversation is hilarious. How someone can be so blind to how the tech industry works is beyond me.
Oh I get how the tech industry works do you?
It’s very funny how you still haven’t explained how a startup company can compete with google who give their OS away for free to every company & in fact it’s over 3.5 billion active users
So if for example TgeeKB made an OS then how would he be able to compete with google if he’s not got the financial resources to compete because you would have to give it away for free
Right I get google make money from adsWith the disclaimer that I am but a teacher (so take whatever I am going to say with a giant grain of salt), I would say that the answer is not to try and replicate the iOS / Android smartphone ecosystem in its entirety, but to push for a new equilibrium. It could be AI, it could be some new technological platform I have not heard of. In short, don’t try to compete with smartphones but instead look towards moving beyond the smartphone.
Remember that Google makes no money off android. Their business model is ultimately in selling ads, so you have to attack them where their money is.
Maybe still easier said than done, which is why I am sitting here after dinner replying to you and not pitching investment ideas to venture capitalists.
Yet that doesn’t explain in the current market with google giving their OS away for free then how is any startup company going to be able to compete with that because with google doing that they are basically squashing their competition.
I’ve explained it many times but you choose to ignore. Technology changes drastically. People’s wants and needs also change. If you really are old enough to remember blackberry (remember how I brought this up several times?) they owned the smartphone market. People loved the keyboard. No one thought anyone could design a keyboard touchscreen but it was done and guess what? It revolutionized the industry. The once giant, who waited too long to respond, was no more. People liked the larger screen real estate. That is how you beat a company, you make something BETTER. When done (and it will be done) Googles OS will be useless.
When Apple built their first PC they were laughed at. IBM built computers for businesses and told Apple their product would never be in homes. Now everyone has a computer in their home and their pocket. Are you listening this time?
Create something innovative or better and people will buy it. Others have brought up AI. Apple is getting slammed for their AI rollout. Perhaps someone will come up with a product that betters what Apple has and it could change the industry again. This is simple. Listen. Open your ears. Look at history. There are thousands of examples but you refuse to look at reality. It’s amazing you keep arguing to be honest with so many people trying to educate you but, you be you.
You are so focused on one thing and believing it will give them dominance forever. Free or not, once someone makes something better it is useless. How can you not understand such a simple concept?
But, please, keep the same broken record playing over and over again.
Right but that is not an explanation that’s a history lesson
But that’s fine
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Ah right so if that’s the case then where is Microsoft’s competition in the desktop world?
why is google not dominating in china & other companies do
Does that mean in china these companies produce better products than google?