Everything New in iOS 13 Beta 5: iPad Home Screen Options, New Volume Levels, Updated Share Sheet and More

[macduke]

The Files app is still a disaster for external drives. It has a LONG way to go to be ready in time for launch. I would not be surprised at all if external drive support isn’t punted to iOS 13.1 or iOS 13.2.

I tried moving 125 RAWs from my a7R III off a 64GB UHS-II Sony SD card onto my 2TB Samsung T5 SSD and it would copy a few and have a “input/output error.” I’m using the new iPad Pro USB-C hub from Hyper. What’s weird is Beta 2 seemed to work better than both Beta 3, 4 and 5. I need to be able to copy thousands of files at once for this to be useful for my workflow of being able to dump SD cards in the field.

I tried copying a folder of maybe 25 RAWs from the T5 to the SD card and also had problems and maybe 10-15 copied.

So I tried my portable 2TB G-Drive and it also had similar issues. When trying to copy a different folder of about 25 RAWs to the SD card, the iPad just went black in the middle of it and resprung. When it did that the HDD made a bad noise abruptly. When it came back up, the drive was fine and I can browse it no problem, but the iPad completely refuses to acknowledge my SD card now. Weird.

When I put the SD card back into my a7R III, it had to completely rebuild the image database like it usually does when I put a wiped card into it. Wow. I haven’t plugged it into my Mac yet to see what the hell happened, but absolutely don’t plug anything into the iPad that you don’t expect to lose. Fortunately for me these were just test shots that I snapped by holding my finger down on the shutter before trying this. I also have copies of both my drives in my studio, and they are also copies of each other.

After trying the card in the camera and taking a photo, I tried plugging it back into the iPad. It never recognized it again, even after I left it for a long time. I even plugged it into the Apple SD card adapter, which is different from the one in my hub and fully supports UHS-II at the fast transfer rate, and it didn’t show up with that either.

I then plugged in my 128GB UHS-I SD card from Sandisk that I usually use for video. It was immediately recognized, both in the Apple SD to USB-C adapter, and in the Hyper hub. So I tried to copy over 20 a7R III RAW files from my G-Drive to the SD card while in the Apple SD adapter. It had an “input/output error” on the 18th photo of the 20. I then tried to copy that folder back to the G-Drive and immediately got an “input/output error.” I then selected all 18 individually and dragged them over to the G-Drive, and got an “input/output error” on the 16th photo of the 18. I then tried to copy that folder of back to the SD card and immediately got the “input/output error” but it did copy over 3 of the RAWs. I deleted those and manually drug over the 16 photos again, and this time it had an “input/output” error on the 15th photo. So it seems like it just doesn’t want to do the whole batch, even when you copy a batch that worked last time and was even smaller than before.

Weirdly, I could quickly copy 35 RAWs in a test from my G-Drive to my iPad, but then copy those 35 RAWs from my iPad to my SD card and it had an “input/output error” on the 29th file. Hopefully they are able to fix this because it takes a lot of extra time to copy things to the iPad in the middle and then over, and then wipe the files off the iPad so you can do another batch, and even then morning everything goes to the SD card on the first try. Fortunately I have nearly a 64GB SD card worth of free space on my 256GB iPad Pro, but it seems like having a bigger iPad Pro will be useful if they can’t figure this out, and it’s still going to be really tedious, which I thought was what they were trying to get away from with iPadOS?

What a cluster, and we’re only around 45-50 days from iPadOS launching, and you still can’t even do basic things like copying files between drives. Wow.

 

[gregohb]

Anyone else having issues with the proximity sensor in phone calls? I had to begrudgingly call Comcast earlier, and my ear kept hitting the number pad because the proximity sensor wasn't turning the screen off.

Yes - I have that problem on iPhone X

 

[TheSkywalker77]

The volume HUD feels like it was meant to be there now, before it just felt like a relocated Control Centre toggle.

 

[hagar]

The Files app is still a disaster for external drives. It has a LONG way to go to be ready in time for launch. I would not be surprised at all if external drive support isn’t punted to iOS 13.1 or iOS 13.2.

What a cluster, and we’re only around 45-50 days from iPadOS launching, and you still can’t even do basic things like copying files between drives. Wow.

That sounds bad. I hope you’ve reported this so Apple can fix or pull it.

 

[cmaier]

The Files app is still a disaster for external drives. It has a LONG way to go to be ready in time for launch. I would not be surprised at all if external drive support isn’t punted to iOS 13.1 or iOS 13.2.

I tried moving 125 RAWs from my a7R III off a 64GB UHS-II Sony SD card onto my 2TB Samsung T5 SSD and it would copy a few and have a “input/output error.” I’m using the new iPad Pro USB-C hub from Hyper. What’s weird is Beta 2 seemed to work better than both Beta 3, 4 and 5. I need to be able to copy thousands of files at once for this to be useful for my workflow of being able to dump SD cards in the field.

I tried copying a folder of maybe 25 RAWs from the T5 to the SD card and also had problems and maybe 10-15 copied.

So I tried my portable 2TB G-Drive and it also had similar issues. When trying to copy a different folder of about 25 RAWs to the SD card, the iPad just went black in the middle of it and resprung. When it did that the HDD made a bad noise abruptly. When it came back up, the drive was fine and I can browse it no problem, but the iPad completely refuses to acknowledge my SD card now. Weird.

When I put the SD card back into my a7R III, it had to completely rebuild the image database like it usually does when I put a wiped card into it. Wow. I haven’t plugged it into my Mac yet to see what the hell happened, but absolutely don’t plug anything into the iPad that you don’t expect to lose. Fortunately for me these were just test shots that I snapped by holding my finger down on the shutter before trying this. I also have copies of both my drives in my studio, and they are also copies of each other.

After trying the card in the camera and taking a photo, I tried plugging it back into the iPad. It never recognized it again, even after I left it for a long time. I even plugged it into the Apple SD card adapter, which is different from the one in my hub and fully supports UHS-II at the fast transfer rate, and it didn’t show up with that either.

I then plugged in my 128GB UHS-I SD card from Sandisk that I usually use for video. It was immediately recognized, both in the Apple SD to USB-C adapter, and in the Hyper hub. So I tried to copy over 20 a7R III RAW files from my G-Drive to the SD card while in the Apple SD adapter. It had an “input/output error” on the 18th photo of the 20. I then tried to copy that folder back to the G-Drive and immediately got an “input/output error.” I then selected all 18 individually and dragged them over to the G-Drive, and got an “input/output error” on the 16th photo of the 18. I then tried to copy that folder of back to the SD card and immediately got the “input/output error” but it did copy over 3 of the RAWs. I deleted those and manually drug over the 16 photos again, and this time it had an “input/output” error on the 15th photo. So it seems like it just doesn’t want to do the whole batch, even when you copy a batch that worked last time and was even smaller than before.

Weirdly, I could quickly copy 35 RAWs in a test from my G-Drive to my iPad, but then copy those 35 RAWs from my iPad to my SD card and it had an “input/output error” on the 29th file. Hopefully they are able to fix this because it takes a lot of extra time to copy things to the iPad in the middle and then over, and then wipe the files off the iPad so you can do another batch, and even then morning everything goes to the SD card on the first try. Fortunately I have nearly a 64GB SD card worth of free space on my 256GB iPad Pro, but it seems like having a bigger iPad Pro will be useful if they can’t figure this out, and it’s still going to be really tedious, which I thought was what they were trying to get away from with iPadOS?

What a cluster, and we’re only around 45-50 days from iPadOS launching, and you still can’t even do basic things like copying files between drives. Wow.

Weirdly, it works great mounting my NAS wirelessly.

 

[djlythium]

I'll upgrade just for the new Move goals. I'm scheduled to reach 1,000 next week, so now I'll have a whole new set of goals.


I did the same thing — turned off notifications. It tremendously improved watch's battery life, and I don't find myself missing anything important.

Sorry to hear you no longer enjoy the Move goals, though. For me, exercise (and motivation to exercise) is my main use of the watch.

I agree with both Pixel8 and yourself. Turning off Notifications for everything except the most essential (Phone calls, Cal appts., and Reminders) did wonders for both my daily stress level, and the watch’s battery life.

 

[macduke]

That sounds bad. I hope you’ve reported this so Apple can fix or pull it.

I can’t imagine they don’t know. It really is that bad. I even tested it without the hub a little bit ago and it just has problems moving files back and forth between the iPad and the drives over USB-C. But yeah, I will try to file a report. I just squeezed in some testing this evening, but I’ve got a big website launch in a couple days so I’ve been pretty swamped.

 

[bmac89]

Is there an option yet to disable frequent contacts in the share sheet?
I don’t want any of my contacts showing up in the share sheet.

 

[Michvuee]

Really hope they have dark mode app icons and maybe even require app makers to make a dark mode version of their app icon.

 

[MuGeN PoWeR]

CarPlay has been working nearly flawlessly on my A5 Sportback. The only issues I encountered are the occasional drop of navigation mid-route and very infrequent loss of radio volume control after receiving an incoming phone call.

none of the betas have worked for me!

 

[DiscoMcDisco]

How about instead of making icons bigger or smaller...giving us the option to remove all app icons on the home page. It’s getting so dated now with iPad and iPhone with too many icons on our homepages. Why have a wallpaper when we can’t even see it?

I get the gripes from most around this, so why not try the following idea and see how you find it.

1. Sort your dock into most used properly
2. Move all apps except files to a second screen (so it boots clean)
3. Launch apps from files (where you can)
4. Happy days

you can pretty much nail the experience that way, treating the second home screen like launchpad.

try and see if the gripe lessens

happy ipadding.

 

[drinkingtea]

Still can't just put the desktop icons where you want them.
Still no haptic/taptic feedback in the keyboard.
Still have to slide down control center in order to see the battery percentage.
Still Notifications need a complete redesign.

You’re echoing all of my issues with iOS.

 

[cardfan]

Not much going on in ios 13.

 

[Penne]

Anyone know where I can download the home app wallpapers?

 

[iBJW]

I just want the landscape mode back for the home screen on iPhone Plus or Mac sizes. Also how about implementing Apple Remote Desktop or VNC from iOS iPadOS to Mac. Next, Allow us to custom install and delete ringtones. Maybe split screen on the plus or max iPhones. There was something else but I forgot lol


*Edit*

oh yeah. Allow me to download all in Music App!!

 

[JonoH]

Mail is still largely broken.. blank messages show and especially with Exchange I cant see sent, and I need to force quit the app.

I also have issues with the stupid Memoji's now appearing in my emoji keyboard and they keep coming back and I DONT want to use them... how can you get rid of them appearing ahead of the recently used emoji's?

 

[rodolfol]

This new beta it's really fast on my iPad Pro 10.5 compared to all previous versions beta or non beta, like it feels really snappy apps open really quick almost instant

 

[verpeiler]

I can’t imagine they don’t know. It really is that bad. I even tested it without the hub a little bit ago and it just has problems moving files back and forth between the iPad and the drives over USB-C. But yeah, I will try to file a report. I just squeezed in some testing this evening, but I’ve got a big website launch in a couple days so I’ve been pretty swamped.

But did you report it via the Feedback app? I hope you did. It's good you described everything what happended here, but it's even more important you provide Apple with good feedback.

 

[amaze1499]

In case it was not covered somewhere else: It's possible to pin files in the iCloud Drive / Files app now. Files can be stored for offline usage. Settings/General/iPadStorage/iCloud Drive

 

[chfilm]

You can change icon size as you want. This is not a one way trip.

Still didn’t answer my question
Does this setting switch between the regular (old) icon size and the smaller (new icon size)? Or is it only about either smaller or bigger icons than what we have in iOS 12?

 

[SidricTheViking]

One of my iOS 13 beta pet peeves is still there - on iPad, divider between two apps moves to the wrong place (vertically) and stops responding unless you kill one of the apps and replace it.

Fellow iPad user here. I don’t understand what you’re referring to. Could you please elaborate?

 

[twistedpixel8]

It’s a Volkswagen issue. I’ve had it since I got my 2019 Jetta when I was on iOS 12. It’s very random when it happens. You don’t have to unplug the phone, just tap radio and then come back to CarPlay. It’ll work.

Ah ok thanks.

Since it’s a Jetta you have, I assume you’re in USA? Just curious if the new VW We Connect app is working for you on iOS13? Mine crashes on trying to connect every time.

 

[Shirasaki]

In case it was not covered somewhere else: It's possible to pin files in the iCloud Drive / Files app now. Files can be stored for offline usage. Settings/General/iPadStorage/iCloud Drive

This was the case from beta 1.
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Still didn’t answer my question
Does this setting switch between the regular (old) icon size and the smaller (new icon size)? Or is it only about either smaller or bigger icons than what we have in iOS 12?

If I understand properly, it is about new icon size. Note that smaller icon size gives widgets while larger icon size (iOS 12 era) gives no widgets.

 

[Justanotherfanboy]

Anyone know where I can download the home app wallpapers?

iOS 13

 

[SidricTheViking]

How about instead of making icons bigger or smaller...giving us the option to remove all app icons on the home page. It’s getting so dated now with iPad and iPhone with too many icons on our homepages. Why have a wallpaper when we can’t even see it?

You can already do this. You can simply move all the apps to the next page and the Home page will have no app icons at all. It’s that simple. I’ve just tried it on my iPad and it worked perfectly. I knew it was possible because my wife had me arrange to this way on her iPhone 8 a year ago!