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What a bunch of whiney babies!

I'm not an iMac, iBook user -- I'm definately a PowerMac user - I've got a Dual 500, and soon to upgrade to a Dual 800 (I was waiting for this show just to be on the safe side). I don't use iMovie, I use Final Cut Pro 3.0 for OS X, and Maya for OS X.

Todays announcements were not about the power users - they were for the general computer users that Apple is so wisely trying to connect with.

Think back to the original iMac launch -- who bought 'em? Women, students, home users, anybody that thought that they were either "cute", or "sexy". That same type of purchaser will buy these!

I'm not going to buy one of these for myself - it just wouldn't fit the bill -- but for my mom... that's another story! I can see these for my dad, sister, and even for friends. It's a wholesome, yet powerful, and sexy solution. Finally having a G4 in a reasonable price unit, is going to up the ante on the power mark for OS X usage.

As for those people who say that they think towers are in trouble -- all I can say is that they are just frustrated iMac users, using a tower, while they were waiting for this unit to come out... Go buy the iMac, and leave the PowerMac G4's to people who know how to use them...

What am I talking about?

Can you say "PCI SLOTS"? I can't equip my ProTools Audio Studio with iMacs!

Can you say "Dual Monitors"? I can't work as productively with Final Cut Pro using the new iMac!

Can you say "1600x1200"? I can't get the most out of maya in 1024x768!


Don't get me wrong - I think for the office worker, home user, mom, dad, grandparents, etc, who think that "Expanding your system" stops at RAM and an AirPort card, the new iMacs rock!! Finally flat screen, G4 and a reasonable price is great!!


You want a Tower related announcement, wait for New York, and quit your bellyaching!! what a bunch of babies!

 
well said...

Besides - I think many people forget what else was announced at this MacWorld...

Mac OS X standard Boot on all machines (!)

arn
 
Apple has a problem

For all of you saying the superdrive turbocharged new, lovely, sexy, wonderful and gorgeous iMac will appear in March. Oh no. It comes this January!!!
Apple can't wait untill Tokyo to release new models. They can't sell a $1800 iMac with 800 MHz, 15" LCD and SuperDrive and a $1700 PM 733 G4, no LCD and CDRW for OVER a month. I have to say I'm dissappointed over todays speech. I wanted to order a new tower today, but I'm quite sure Apple will release new PowerMacs soon. Good old Steevie migth suffer from RDF (Reality Disortion Field), but he ain't stupid. I hope... :)


I WANT A NEW TOWER NOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

Oooops, sorry 'bout that
 
ghz patience

don't you speed crybabies realize that time will cure your problem . . . we will in due time have a major bump in speed - it is inevitable . . . pros will get what we need . . .

but in the meantime - steve has changed the debate for everyone else from speed to "what can i do" w/ my pc . . . this is what makes apple so special . . . and if you aren't psyched to be a part of it . . . you know what you can go buy . . .

 
Re: A couple of notes...

Originally posted by ob
I see a few nasty things with the iMac.
-100MHz system bus ;(
-no s-video outputs ;(
-video mirroring on the VGA port, no extended desktop ;(
-1024-by-768-pixel resolution ;(
-Weight: 21.3 pounds (9.7 kg) - fatso!!!

Ar eyou aware that the iMac is the ENTRY LEVEL Mac? Did you want them to ONLY sell one system (at the price of the pro line)?
 
Thanks arn!

I love iMovie & with the option to burn to DVD it's ideal for me.

p.s. congrats on the excellent coverage!!! (so far....)
 
iPhoto -- campatible camera?

Hi-

Does one need a compatible camera to use iPhoto? or can i just transfer photos from my 'incompatible' camera to disk and then import into iPhoto?
 
Re: Re: Re: wrong way, mate!

Originally posted by amichalo
Originally posted by Falleron
Ok then, my mistake! However, I need a tower + dont intend on buying an imac because I need the expansion! Where does that leave me? Buy a PC??? (Which I dont want)

What exansion do yo uneed the new iMac can't handle - did I hear *5* USB ports and *2* fiewire - plus Ethernet and airport.

pci cards!!!
 
How long?

I did not know that… I wonder how long they will be around?


P.S. $699 or even $599 would have been big news for me.
 
what I think...

I definitely don't think it was worth all the hype....they made it seem like it was going to be the 2nd coming!

I do really like the new iMacs though. The new iMac is the most inventive & unique looking computer I've ever seen! I want one really badly, but honestly just don't need it. I have my PowerBook G4 with does everything I've ever asked it to do. The iMacs are priced so reasonably for what u get: 700-800 Mhz G4, 15" LCD, DVD-RW/CD-RW, speakers, all of it!

I think since we are seeing a bump in display size with the iBook that we'll soon see a major speed increase, and hopefully a new PowerBook.

I've already downloaded iPhoto but haven't been able to really get into it yet. From what I've seen of it I think it'll be a great way to be able to view from a picturebox perspective.

I'm pretty happy...but still trying to figure out why they hyped it so much....the iMac is quite amazing, but didn't think it was worth a week of hype from Apple...
 
UK iMac prices

UK prices are as follows

£1149.00 - CDRW

£1299.00 - Combo

£1599.00 - Superdrive

Damn fair is all I can say!!
 
iMac

The new Imac is a perfect machine for offices and homes.
Small and LCD - most people wont even notice the round thing, they will just see the screen with a keyboard in front.

Is it ugly or pretty? Dont know, dont care. Thats a subjective issue and isnt worth discussing.

If Time magazine has it on the cover, and with this iPhoto/digital hub hype - its going to be a very big seller.

Its a great deal, its got all you need to do most things, and its easy to drop onto a desk and work.

Its a HUGE improvement over the old one, and it will sell BIG.

As for all you "Pro" users: well, are you going to quit work because all you have to work with right now is a 22" screen and an 800 mhz G4? I dont think so.

The server/big iron biz isnt exactly booming right now, so Apple is getting the bucks from where the spending never stops: The average consumer.

This imac is going to do it, and the low price on the iBooks will really get sales up.

Think about it: $1199 for the low-end iBook - compare that to the price of a Newton 2100 3 or so years ago.

$1299 for this new imac in March - our company will buy 4 of them to replace the old imac just because they are so much easier on peoples eyes and so much less desk space.

Screw the hype/letdown syndrome - this is a good day for Apple, and a good day to be an Apple user.

Pity about the iWalk, tho........!
 
I don't think so...

Look, I have been as excited (and sleepless) as anyone waiting for today's huge announcements. And this iMac is stylish - but this is hardly revolutionary. After the dust started settling, we all have had to look at what is here - and there is nothing here that doesn't already readily exist in several forms - Flat Panel, 60 GB HD, Gig of Ram, last year's low end GeForce - even printing photo albums in hardcover books - this has even been available online for a long time.

Maybe the iPhoto software is better (and obviously cheaper) that many other packages? The hardware certainly is shaped differently - ok... To call this computer upgradeable is a stretch though - maybe processor or ram and hard drive, but as we have found out in these all-in-one-units, when one thing goes wrong, the whole thing goes in for repair - you can't just swap a different monitor out when something happens - or likely even a network card in this case.

I feel like I am throwing water all over these "big" announcements, but at the end of the day, I guess I just see a funky new case design, and, well, not a whole lot more.
 
Re: Re: A couple of notes...

Originally posted by amichalo
Originally posted by ob
I see a few nasty things with the iMac.
-100MHz system bus ;(
-no s-video outputs ;(
-video mirroring on the VGA port, no extended desktop ;(
-1024-by-768-pixel resolution ;(
-Weight: 21.3 pounds (9.7 kg) - fatso!!!

Ar eyou aware that the iMac is the ENTRY LEVEL Mac? Did you want them to ONLY sell one system (at the price of the pro line)?

You think the getting more that the above are pro-specs??

I think getting better than the above are very reasonable things to want.


 
PURE CRAP!

That imac is a flop, Apple is crazy, we want real stuff, ata 133, 1 + ghz, 100gig hard drive, 2 gig of ram, a pda, OSX on intel, 64 mb video, I’m so sick of this crap, "be prepared to be blown a way" ? What a let down!
 
what we will see in tokyo

its clear that Steve Jobs wasnt going to let anything get in the way of his new desk top lamp ur uh imac. So with that why would he relsase the new towers now to steal the imacs thunder. So my guess is that we will see either new G4s or a G5 in 45 days in japan. Its not that long off besides he needs something big to premere their
 
Re: iPhoto -- campatible camera?

Originally posted by Guest
Hi-

Does one need a compatible camera to use iPhoto? or can i just transfer photos from my 'incompatible' camera to disk and then import into iPhoto?

I donwloaded iPhoto and have already used it efortlessly with a Fuji FinePix 2400Zoom. Just plug in the USB and it does the rest - very well I might add!
 
the imac offers great value.
Ofcourse the hype was exaggerated, thats what hype does. And its your own fault, not apples. You got a great value imac from this expo, with a G4 processor.

Those of you wanting towers might be dissapointed but just be happy apple has got a new and good imac out. It looks kool and is versatile, those of you complaining about the shape should shut the **** up, what more do you expect from a designer? Its compact, neat, versatile, useful and in the flesh it will not look like its made of cheap plastic, remember you moaning of the boring design ipod until you saw it in the flesh.

To the knob that spoke about sending pictures on the imac, you are an uneducated ****. I have friends in publishing that use imacs and i know that this is what they would want and need, dont look down on imac users in your egotisitcal way, just because you own/use a powermac doesnt mean you are any better than them. Infact your last post proved you are below them in every way. Go home, if you really think that then you are a sad nob who knows nothing about the world around you. Get out, get laid, get a life. and try to expand your knowledge enough so that you realise your life is a waste.

Why is it after every macworld people, normally guests, zealots or new users get dissapointed after getting wet dreams over it the night before. What the hell pleases you people??? you got a G4 imac with LCD display which rotates, tilts, rises, preloaded with OSX, 40Gb HD.
 
re: Too much hype

quote

A flat panel imac was a given and might I say long overdue. And what about the prices? Yeah, it?s a good deal having a G4 and all, but $1299 is still too high for ?Joe American.? They should have retained an old ?classic imac? at the $799 or $699 level. If you want to steal sales form compact gateway and dell that is ware you want to be.

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while i think that many would agree with you that apple still needs a sub-$1000 computer to get consumers to make the switch, especially in today's not-so-great economy, i think it's important to acknowledge this:

no offense to us all, but consumers as a whole behaves very much like a dog. once it knows what i can get away with, it will always demand more for less. part of the reason other pc manufacturers produce such sub-par products is that they give in to the will of the consumer to want this and that for an $X amount of dollars. once that is done, consumers expects and believes that it's possible and even out-right the duty of the manufacturer to turn around something even better in 6 months for the same, if not less, amount of dollars.

apple, on the other hand, is about the whole experience and the quality of owning the product. it's always easy to copy the competition, but it's much harder to invest the time and money into creating something new. design and innovation is hard work, and those who spent due time creating products that we love should be rewarded.

i know, i know, people will say "but it's not the designers and engineers who are directly being rewarded..." well, yes i know that they are not directly being rewarded. we don't live in a perfect world. but i feel that it's important to acknowlege the worth of a better product when it is deserved. by no means, i am not saying that consumer ought to fork out whatever amount of money apple thinks it deserves, but i do believe that apple doesn't deserve the same price-haggling mentality that plagues every other pc manufactuers.

thanks for reading ;)

 
it seems as though this new design will make is prettye easy for apple to offer bigger screen sizes at a later date, without having to re-design any of the basic elements of this new imac. Personally i think it's way cool. Could well become my next desktop...
 
the imac might look nice and fluffy but u cant really expand it and i think it look like an over priced lamp besides how does that go beyond the rumors?? we have been predicting this for months now i want to see power not 800mhz g4 over and over again
 
Some interesting things I just thought about.

The first iMac was 233mhz G3, it had the powermacs low end chip in it. It took two speedbumps for the original one to be a obselete. The same might happen in a year and a half for this one.

The lowest mac right now is the 500mhz G3, Apple is already asking for a 400mhz G3 as a minimum speed for iPhoto. APPLE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT USERS WITH OLDER MACS! The minimum will always be 100mhz lower than the slowest Mac they sell. At this rate, next years minimum requirement will be 800mhz mac, if not a G4. This stinks.

Apple will not even try to compete with sub $1,000 PC's.

It will take about 9 months for Apple to come out with the new Tibook, new tower, new OS, new digital device and speedbumbps on ibooks.

Thats a lot for one company, unfortunatly we are comparing them to the PC world were many come out with new products for one OS.
 
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