Just for reference, I used to work in a bookstore. The price on the book was double what the store paid for it. So they took 50%.
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Facebook and Spotify CEOs Slam Apple's App Store
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I agree with what you are saying. I like the "walled garden" always have, always will. But, I like having a point of all apps being put under a microscope by a legitimate set of eyes first. there are all kinds of apps available for Android mobile devices that are for less than up and up purposes. Just in the news (car related) 2 days ago Christy Lee a Motor Trend and car personality had here Dodge Challenger HellCat stolen out of her driveway.....gone in less that 2 minutes. Break passenger window, using an app on an Android phone, reprogrammed a random car fob and drove away in less than 2 minutes. I don't think Apple would allow an app like that on iOS. On your 2nd point....I don't want USB-C on a phone, it's to fragile and prone to failure. If you break the connector, the processor board needs to be replaced. I have seen people break off a Lightning connector, just take a knife and poke out the broken part and your good to go. My work Computer is a 2019 13" MBP and at this point 2 of the 4 USB-C connectors are bad. They get loose for plugging and unplugging, now I have wiggle the connectors for get them to work.
Totally agree! It seems as though they looked at privacy in completely the wrong direction.
For another reference: I did not pay any fee for installing Spotify, Facebook etc. on my computer. The phone is a computer, not a retail store.
Yeah, so take Apple out of that equation and have the government pressure you directly. Or the government will just peek in and track you without you knowing it. Enjoy that.
I mean, look at how much flack apple is getting over Air Tags. People like their privacy.
Your choice would necessitate a change in the iOS architecture that would put all phones at more risk. Your original choice to buy an iPhone was your obvious mistake as a consumer if you had these values at the start.
I don't say I trust Little Snitch, I do the best I can to increase my confidence in my security on the computer, but it is a lot more effort on my part. I don't want to do that all over again with this architecture. So my choice conflicts with yours. The iOS is an alternative to the traditional platforms, you just want to dial back to the 90s way of thinking perhaps.
Yes, all true. Blackberry was foolishly managed...I will equate them to Sears. They could have been the first Amazon, they had an amazing catalog and you could buy almost anything.....you could buy a house. It was run by I guess "old thinkers" People with no visionary abilities. blackberry could have been marketed to consumers and not just a business device. I had one for work, I also had a Dell X5, a palm Pilot, a Handspring and a few versions of the Palm Treo. I love new tech.
You can’t say because someone used an app to commit a crime so now we have to babysit the App Store to the point where you can’t have no sharp edges. A phone in 2022 is just a computer. There are ways to do the same thing with raspberry pi. Are we going to somehow lock down the raspberry pi now? I get the point that we should not allow apps designed to commit crimes in the App Store and agree with that, but where do you draw the line. Protesters are using X app to stage demonstrations. The CCP wants Apple to remove it. Should the app be removed? In their eyes, this app is being used to commit crimes.
I like the lightning connector as well, but I’ve given up. We’re all going to USB-C and yay 😂
Though I'm ambivalent about the current issue, your example isn't quite right. Imagining only being able to buy from the Windows store is like imagining the same constraints with the Mac. I can side-load on my Mac as easily as PC users can side-load on their computers. The current issue is problematic for me, because the main people advocating against Apple (Facebook and Epic) are such tools. Though I don't use it, I'm kind of sympathetic to Spotify. Apple's cut does put Apple in a competitive advantage. I do worry about the security problems that might arise with third party stores. But I also wonder if the iPad market for pro software might improve if there were a store offering options like paid updates rather than only (1) subscription or (2) pay once & update for free until the end of time.
When apps are removed, because they don’t like the speech posted in them - it absolutely is.
Social media is the digital town square. Apple should not have a say on what topics or views are allowed to be discussed there. It is one thing to have guidelines for the app itself, but this is just getting out of hand.
The government can get in your phone, but they would have to break US laws to do so. I turn on that activation lock whenever I'm out and about. You are right that Apple has to cooperate with the laws in the countries they operate in, otherwise they would be criminals themselves. Being secure from less sophisticated criminals is a major selling point for the iPhone. Period. It could be that governments will force change on Apple, and that will be bad for all of us. In my opinion. And I'm in the majority. How many people were behind the jailbreaking movement? Not many, but people who support those views are more vocal on the internet because of feeling aggrieved by a company whose products they never had to buy in the first place.
If you’re the target of a government attack on your phone, then you have more to worry about then what laws are broken. At that point they have some serious problem with you.
I like the security of the iPhone so that’s why I really don’t like the idea of sideloading because I feel it will weaken the security. People will say well just don’t sideload, but that’s not how it works in reality. Once there is sideloading, many app devs won’t make apps for the App Store. At that point you will have to sideload to get the same apps you are getting now from the App Store.
Well, I think Apple is feeling some of this heat. It was just announced that Apple is not going to remove Twitter from the App Store. This does not really solve the problem of the major issue with Apple having so much control, but it gives them some more breathing room. Apple did not want to pick a fight with Musk while they’re already fighting with Facebook and Spotify. Sometimes you have to pick your battles.
While some of my posts may seem anti-Apple, I’m really not. I’m not a blind fan boy, but I really like Apple’s products. I don’t know all the answers, but I would like to see some improvement to the current system.
Maybe it was in a dream, but hasn’t Facebook spoken out against the App Store literally a quadrillion times? (Ok, maybe not literally). The only news here seems to be they got Spotify to join them because no one listens to Zuckerberg anymore.
Can I walk into Walmart and put my products on the shelf and expect Walmart not to take them off? Why does Walmart have the right to not give me shelf space for free?
This argument was already used in this thread but it doesn’t hold water. The difference is if I owned Walmart then I can put whatever items I want on my shelf. I own my phone but someone can tell me I’m not allowed to put something on the shelf.
I meant in the current wave of manufactured animosity Musk is bringing coupled with a virulent Republican Congress holding hearings to slaughter Apple. Zuckerberg is going to ride on Musks wave after years of bad press for his own sins.
Apple deserves the 30%. It’s high AF for sure, but they’re providing an incredible platform that costs a lot to maintain 24/7. Musk has a similar complex technical beast now to manage and maintain and can barely roll out a measly $8 gimmick. It’s tough to survive. Apple is in an incredible position due to innovation and strength. I guess BlackBerry and Microsoft should sue them too for destroying their mobile phone market. It’s a wildly tough game. Apple won.
Missed it. My bad.
Point is, Walmart owns the store and Apple owns the store. They’re the boss.
Consumers have chosen, which is why iOS is dominant. I think you are overestimating the outcry about this. Most regular customers don't read these forums and don't complain about apple. Customer satisfaction is very high for Apple products (if you believe Apple on that one). LOL reality distortion field maybe?
Where have I estimated the outcry on this or even talk about customer satisfaction? Maybe you are thinking of someone else's post or maybe I forgot?
They don’t have to offer a 3rd party App Store. Web browsers still work. It’s just these companies don’t want to do the work to make their web services robust
I know, the car thing, makes me think. About a month ago my neighbor came over and said 5 guys in a pathfinder stopped and started check out my car….I hid 3 AirPods in places that will require to get to. As you mentioned the China thing. That’s the downside of being a global company, the EU having a fit about chargers when it’s such a waste to include them…so much e-waste. I would think leave out the physical charger and include a card/certificate for a free charger for those who want one. The same with the USB-C, you can’t innovate with a new connector. Maybe they do some kind of alternate “sandbox” and have an alternate App Store where you have to sign differently with some form of disclaimer that puts all liability on the user, including how the device has some alternate form of warranty….or not