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Honestly, Apple should just ditch the App Store and show all these companies who's boss. No more third party apps. This would be best for the consumer's privacy and security. Besides, Apple could build its own social media platform if it really wanted to. It's called Ping.
 
It's not a "right." It is like complaining that the car you drive does not take diesel and you want the courts to force the maker to install a Diesel engine instead fo what you bought it with.
Think of the Mac or Windows if you could only install applications through the respective official store and for each transaction the company would take 30%?

Would feel pretty crazy right? Hard to even imagine.

Disclaimer: I deliver apps through the Mac App Store because I find it convenient and I get some downloads with the organic search. Still good to have options I think, both for devs and consumers.
 
We have reached the point that anyone who understood these people knew that we would inevitably reach. Each of them want to have all the money. All of it. And that means that no one else can do anything to earn any of it. Doing so is unfair. Because it means that they can't reach their goal. To have all the money.
 
Can you imagine how confusing it would be for consumers to have to have dozens of app stores on their phone. A Facebook store, google store, Microsoft store, epic store, etc. I know at some point some may band together to form a singular store but not sure how that would work either with commissions etc. Ultimately what benefit besides saving some money would it give Facebook? They would still be responsible for adhering to any privacy protections iOS has. It wouldn’t be free rein and I bet many consumers would say no to tracking regardless of the store anyways. All very interesting.
 
Maybe Apple should block the FB app all together because it spies on people, waists their time, is primarily used to spread unfounded conspiracy theories and drains their phone batteries because it does everything to keep running in the background?

Let Apple block FB...and why not go further, Spotify, Epic, Xbox, Stadia, Instagram.....all those moaning minis. An iPhone would just about be useful.....as a phone
 
Can you imagine how confusing it would be for consumers to have to have dozens of app stores on their phone. A Facebook store, google store, Microsoft store, epic store, etc. I know at some point some may band together to form a singular store but not sure how that would work either with commissions etc. Ultimately what benefit besides saving some money would it give Facebook? They would still be responsible for adhering to any privacy protections iOS has. It wouldn’t be free rein and I bet many consumers would say no to tracking regardless of the store anyways. All very interesting.

You probably only shop at Walmart, but we other people are used to different stores in real life.
 
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Interesting that he should be concerned about blocking innovation while at the same time using his platform to block free speech. I'm sure, given how smart he is, that the irony and hypocrisy are not lost on the Zuck.
 
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Apple should just ban Facebook from the App Store, just because of all the crazy conspiracy theory groups on it.

It should ban Safari too. Safari breaks Apple own rules allowing to see unapproved content and web apps and pay with third party payment processors. This shall not be tolerated. In fact, had the web been invented after iOS, there is zero chance you'd have a web browser allowed on iOS. Thanks computing history for some inventions to have happened before others.
 
Let Apple block FB...and why not go further, Spotify, Epic, Xbox, Stadia, Instagram.....all those moaning minis. An iPhone would just about be useful.....as a phone

Some apps are more powerful than the ecosystem they run on. When Trump considered to ban Wechat there was a survey on how many people would switch phones. I believe Instagram and Youtube have the power to make people switch as well.
 
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Some apps are more powerful than the ecosystem they run on. When Trump considered to ban Wechat there was a survey on how many people would switch phones. I believe Instagram and Youtube have the power to make people switch as well.

I agree...given how many people argue they’re trapped with imessage
 
Some apps are more powerful than the ecosystem they run on. When Trump considered to ban Wechat there was a survey on how many people would switch phones. I believe Instagram and Youtube have the power to make people switch as well.

I vaguely remember it was 95% of Chinese users that would switch overnight. That's amusing there where a single app is far more important than the hardware it runs on. Kind of a reality check for Apple if they had to ban (forced or not) WeChat.
 
Which is a good thing to happen, let the consumers decide where to buy Apps from.
I would go to Apple, others may have a different choice.
What about when the app you want or need has been pulled from the apple App Store because epic signed an exclusive deal to have that app only in their store. all of sudden you have left choice or you will be signing up to the epic store
 
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In Asian countries like the Philippines, Facebook actually finances mobile phone plans just to get the app in front of as many eyes as possible.

1. Buy data load.
2. Get Facebook included for "free".

So many young people in those countries grow up addicted to Facebook, it's literally a drug.

Suckerberg has no right to judge Apple as a "monopoly".
 
Think of the Mac or Windows if you could only install applications through the respective official store and for each transaction the company would take 30%?

Would feel pretty crazy right? Hard to even imagine.

Disclaimer: I deliver apps through the Mac App Store because I find it convenient and I get some downloads with the organic search. Still good to have options I think, both for devs and consumers.

The difference is iOS has never been an open platform and Mac/Windows is. They should be forced to open it up just because it's successful? Maybe it's successful because it's closed.

That 30% is currently the industry standard. People keep looking at the 30% like its just pure profit to Apple (or Google, Microsoft, Nintendo, etc etc). It's not. There is value that comes with being on a platform and having many things handled for you in exchange for that 30%. Too high? too low? It's their store, closed, built from the ground up... yet for some reason they can't set their own rules, even if those rules are the current standard?

I think services have every right to charge a percentage, or a fee or whatever they choose. The app store is just another service and the terms are right up front to agree to. This is just big businesses fighting over their own definition of "fair" and using the consumers as pawns to do it.
 
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Man this is heading a direction where Apple will be forced to open iOS to app installations from other sources than App Store, reminds of the whole internet explorer thing in the 90's.
Just understand this does not stop with Apple. ANY store digital or not would be subject to the same set of rules.
EVERY store would be subject to some vendor's wishes. "I don't like you charging 10, 20, 30, 40 or whatever % on top of my charge. You bad bad company you. You only sell it at 1 or 2% mark up that's it. No profit for you!". Now, let me place my merch in your store wherever I want!"

GTFOH
 
**** Zuckerberg. You're just pissed because you can't exploit people's personal info and sell it to the highest bidder. I have no empathy for Facebook and their shady practices.
Plus Ios 14 is going to harm their add revenue... so he has to throw so garbage at Apple.
 
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Apple is also overdue for a consumer class action lawsuit for overbearing and overreaching control of consumer owned devices paid in full. Apple blocks apps like free open source Retroarch because it's emulation but yet allows paid VMWare, Parallels, etc. It's my device and Apple has no say in what I can or can't run on it.

You have choice. Buy a different device. You are not "forced" to buy an Apple device.

I see like buying a microwave and then complaining that it doesn't wash my dishes.

Buy the device that meets your needs. Consumers have lots of choice.
 
Yeah man- that App Store- it stifles competition. It did not invent and create an entire new industry leading to multiple millionaires and billionaires... oh no, no it stifled innovation. Man I hate Zuckerberg.
Really? You hate Zuckerberg?
 
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