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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg: Apple's App Store Blocks Innovation and Competition
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Wonder if you thought the same when Microsoft and Internet Explorer was being dragged through the mill.
Not exactly the same though. You can just walk into other stores in real life and pay cash without handing over all your personal details.
All these online app stores will require you to setup accounts and give over a load of personal info and credit card details, and the more stores you are forced to sign up to increases the risk that your data could be breached.
Also grandma or child who has an iPhone isn’t going to realise where to get their particular apps from if there are different stores for everything. Not to mention the loss of the parental controls you can have over a child’s iOS device and App Store
Not only that but are all these 3rd party app stores going to vet the code like Apple does, I doubt it so a lot of the security of iOS is then gone, the locked down nature and App Store is part of why iOS is as secure as it is and why iPhones are popular especially amongst the less tech savvy.
Also I do believe Epic tried to force people to disable security on Android devices to side load their App Store for Fortnite and then still had to go onto the Play store as it wasn’t overly successful.
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I am curious if Facebook benefits monetarily from the Online Events feature or does all of the money go directly to the organization putting on the event? Regardless, Facebook and the organizations still benefit from the ecosystem developed by Apple. I am also wondering if all other companies that have been charging 30% fees in their stores have since ceased doing so. It seems disingenuous for other companies (and MacRumors posters) to be jumping all over Apple for an industry standard practice.
This is a complex issue that Zuckerberg and others are trying to win in the court of public opinion as they know they have little to no legal context in which to win. That said, I do believe Apple needs to be aware that being legally right does not equate to winning public opinion; Apple has so far not made much of an effort to explain their practices in regards to the attacks they are receiving.
This is a complex issue that Zuckerberg and others are trying to win in the court of public opinion as they know they have little to no legal context in which to win. That said, I do believe Apple needs to be aware that being legally right does not equate to winning public opinion; Apple has so far not made much of an effort to explain their practices in regards to the attacks they are receiving.
False equivalency. This is nothing like Microsoft's situation.
not at all, Windows had near absolute dominance in the computer market, Apple doesn’t even have dominance in the phone market let alone the entire computer market, consumer choice exists, you want an open market go android, you want a close market go iOS, you want a pc buy one, you want a powerful game console buy one, it’s not nearly the same.
The thing is if it's stifles innovation, surely Android and other platforms would have apps and things we don't see on iOS. If anything, on the whole, it's the other way around (in terms of 3rd party apps, there's more on iOS) so it's total nonsense.
No, it’s not a monopoly unless you’re defining iOS as the entire marketplace, which makes no sense. The relevant “market” here is mobile phones/devices more broadly, and maybe even OS’es beyond mobile since FaceBook can be accessed on desktop OS’es also (and fortnite on other gaming platforms also). It’s true that being on AppStore provides access to a lot of potential customers, but developers who want to distribute their app/game/service have many mainstream and popular ways to do that including Android apps, MacOS or windows desktop apps, and (of course) browser interfaces, which is a perfectly fine way to access facebook, including from an iOS device (I did it for years).
Have we crossed off everything on Macrumors bingo yet?
- Facebook are throwing their toys out
- Don’t like the rules, don’t play
- Build your own phone
- But look at Sony etc
- If Apple was Walmart
Let the market decide/work, it works on macOS/Windows and other OS's so why not on iOS.
I said I would chose iOS, if the App is only available elsewhere like from the Developer I would go there, it worked before the Appstore so it will work now as well.
Well, there has been absolutely zero innovation at FB since it first launched. They've copied every successful idea, lock, stock and barrel from other companies. That's the way they work. They wait until another company has something that gains traction. They then completely copy it, give it a new name and incorporate it into the FB behemoth.
how is that different than Disney pulling all their content from other streaming services etc?
Good lord. It’s nothing like that. A gas engine can't operate on diesel. The only reason consumers can’t install apps from outside the App Store is because Apple prevents it. Jailbreak your phone and it’s no problem. Apple let’s businesses install custom apps outside the App Store. Developers can install apps for testing. There is no inherent design or hardware problem that prevents apps being installed from outside the App Store. It’s purely something Apple elects to do to “protect” users, but really it’s about $$$ and control.
Hilarious from a guy whose company either aggressively undermined or outright bought competitors. Pot kettle black.
So lets just make iOS like windows and MacOS? Let takeaway our current option of having an all in one ecosystem and turn iOS into a PC OS how does that benefit the consumer?
Apple does more to “protect” users than other app stores. There are always stories about apps on the play store being pulled because of malware that can hijack your phone. Now Apple aren’t prefect in this regard a couple still slip through but it’s rare compared to the play store which happens all the time.
Let’s face it most smart phone users nowadays are complete tech illiterate morons and need the extra “protection” that Apple and the locked down ecosystem that iOS provides.
Are Apple perfect? Far from it, but I’d rather my family and I be in the walled garden than in the Wild West that is Android.
It isn't look how many streaming services there are now, the whole point of cutting the cord is over and people are starting to resign up to cable packages. So yes let ruin iOS and make it just like windows, at least Norton can make some money with antivirus for iOS
If Tim Cook was smart the company would make changes before regulators force them to. And they will. It’s just a matter of time.
Nope, you can chose to only use apps downloaded from the Mac Appstore, if you chose to have it that way, others which like to go somewhere else will have no problem to do so.
Apple could easily implement a setting in iOS, standard would be the Appstore, give a warning if you toggle that setting, for instance, warn users that it might affect security.
