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So with this background audio issue being fixed does this mean it fixes when you close then Facebook app and play music the audio won't be lower than normal anymore? It used to happen all the time when I had my phone connected to my car Bluetooth.
It still noticeably lowers the volume when you open FB, but, unlike before, as soon as you leave FB, the volume goes back to the right level. I no longer have to force quit FB to get the correct volume playing.

Considering FB's crappy track record, I count that as a win.
 
Ok there FB lover...

No, I do not even like Facebook (or social media, in general). I'm just not a paranoid conspiracy theorist and prefer to approach things from a rational perspective. Correlation without causation, and all that.
 
I wasted like 150 mb of cellular data trying to update. It kept getting stuck. I deleted Facebook and had to reboot twice and it finally loaded
 
Great. Don't forget that they also paid something like 19b for WhatsApp and they still haven't updated it in a major way. Still no quick replies, still no watch app. Still running in the background eating battery away. Frankly, they suck. I don't use WhatsApp much more than I use Messages, and WhatsApp has like 4 hours in the background while Messages has only a few minutes.
To be fair, quick reply is there for WhatsApp as of iOS 9.1.
 
Good riddance. 15 mins usage only and who knows how many 10s of hours in background spinning for my data, it sucked up more than any other app on my phone.

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Doesn't seem like it was in the background for any time really based on that screenshot (compared to the almost 5 hours that another app has been in the background).
 
No, I do not even like Facebook (or social media, in general). I'm just not a paranoid conspiracy theorist and prefer to approach things from a rational perspective. Correlation without causation, and all that.

Yeah because Edward Snowden proved that the gov and tech companies are trust worthy and conspiracy theorists are nuts... Uh huh...

Have you been living in a cave??
 
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Yeah because Edward Snowden proved that the gov and tech companies are trust worthy and conspiracy theorists are nuts... Uh huh...

Have you been living in a cave??
So is that to say that everything is a conspiracy then?
 
Yeah because Edward Snowden proved that the gov and tech companies are trust worthy and conspiracy theorists are nuts... Uh huh...

Have you been living in a cave??

Not at all. I'm not saying things cannot happen. I am saying that the conclusions being drawn by the journalists and commenters here are incorrect. The vector supposedly being used by Facebook in this case makes no sense. The implementation as described here, the results presented, and the comments made, gets Facebook absolutely no where and causes issues. The implementation described is monetarily worthless.

Every single sign here points to this being a bug. Nothing presented, demonstrated, or otherwise discussed even remotely suggests anything malicious, but you and others here start sharpening your axes because the word "Facebook" was uttered.

If you're so concerned about it, throw away your phone and go live in a cave. Otherwise, worry about the probabilities and think this completely through, because this issue was pure and simple a bug with zero malicious intent. Even the remotest application of logic explains everything, and the conclusion that Zuckerberg somehow cares about what you do on your phone is entirely and completely incorrect.

Shame on the commenters here and shame on the journalist that suggested otherwise.
 
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Its not a bug, it's a feature...
They are full of ****.
They were using CoreLocation, CoreBluetooth, and a few other background services.
They got caught.
Apple said that they would monitor battery life like this by apps.
It looks like it was handled behind the scenes.
 
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Vittici believed Facebook used silent audio intentionally as a way to keep the app active in the background for tasks like pre-loading content, which he said showed "a deep lack of respect for iOS users".
It's also a direct violation of the iOS Background Execution concept.

Always try to avoid doing any background work unless doing so improves the overall user experience. An app might move to the background because the user launched a different app or because the user locked the device and is not using it right now. In both situations, the user is signaling that your app does not need to be doing any meaningful work right now. Continuing to run in such conditions will only drain the device’s battery and might lead the user to force quit your app altogether. So be mindful about the work you do in the background and avoid it when you can.

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Not at all. I'm not saying things cannot happen. I am saying that the conclusions being drawn by the journalists and commenters here are incorrect. The vector supposedly being used by Facebook in this case makes no sense. The implementation as described here, the results presented, and the comments made, gets Facebook absolutely no where and causes issues. The implementation described is monetarily worthless.

Every single sign here points to this being a bug. Nothing presented, demonstrated, or otherwise discussed even remotely suggests anything malicious, but you and others here start sharpening your axes because the word "Facebook" was uttered.

If you're so concerned about it, throw away your phone and go live in a cave. Otherwise, worry about the probabilities and think this completely through, because this issue was pure and simple a bug with zero malicious intent. Even the remotest application of logic explains everything, and the conclusion that Zuckerberg somehow cares about what you do on your phone is entirely and completely incorrect.

Shame on the commenters here and shame on the journalist that suggested otherwise.

I disagree with this.

By making the app run in the background, (from what has been explained to me) it should be more likely to remain in active memory and thus will be less likely to need refreshing when switched back to. In this case, there is a perception of running faster, thus there is a higher likelihood of the user going back to the app more often, resulting in more page-views, thus more ad-views, thus greater monetization (if not now, then at some future point).

By assuming this is a bug, you are assuming that the 100+ coders didn't notice the decreased battery life (increased drain) nor did they notice the volume issues, and they also didn't get notification of the bugs effect from any of the reports on the internet.

I agree that Zuckerberg, Cook, or any of the others have no interest in what I do with my phone, or what you do with yours, on an individual level, however on an aggregate level, they have a great interest in what we do with our devices. I believe it is naive to think otherwise, as the fate of each of their companies likely hinge on battles being fought on these devices and over our mindspace.

DISCLAIMER: My opinion may be somewhat biased as I don't use social media much, mainly on principle - but also because I really don't care what my Aunt Mary had for dinner...
 
Personally, I find this irresponsible journalism. This doesn't pass the smell test. This type of journalism is designed to mislead the readers to draw page views and advertising revenue. A less obvious form of click-bait.

If Facebook was doing something nefarious, knowingly and on purpose, why would they bother to shut off this functionality? If it was worth doing covertly in the first place, it is most certainly worth keeping around. If it was an unintentional bug, then it is easy to fix and mitigate - which is what they are doing. I think everyone needs to calm down and approach this from a rational perspective.

Um no. Quite simply it's because they got caught. Prior to iOS 9, there was no way to see background usage and therefore no way the average user would have realized what was going on. The new battery stats exposed them and that's why they're turning it off.

With every engineer and tool at their disposal (Instruments in XCode), FB could not possibly have not known of this for ages. But as long as no one knew, they could get away with it. With the huge public outcry now, they have no choice.
 
I don't trust them either. Wish there was a better platform that is as widely adopted as facebook, while I don't necessarily like to post every little detail of my life, it is nice to keep in touch with some folks from distant parts of my life which I otherwise would not likely hear from.

It's called email
 
that's grounds for removal of Facebook from the app store.
I'll get slapped left and right for this, but screw it:

Tim doesn't have as big cojones as Steve. Would he make some calls and pressure Facebook. Yes, successfully so? Well, I guess we're seeing the result here.

I believe that Tim's approach is a bit more the stealthy one.
He's the one fixing business relations with Google after Steve's "war" also.
Not a warmonger, he's a lot more diplomatic.

Glassed Silver:ios
 
Draining your life, draining your battery.
If I could easily create some test users which only lasts a few days in my Office 365, I don't need to join Facebook just for some sort of collaboration. Google is still not so good when comparing it with Microsoft Office.
 
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