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Hmm, how did I know most Apple users would be calling this app. Of course had it have been developed for Apple not Android, I'm sure I'd have been reading things differently!

Yeah, in your mind. FB is an utter complete waste of time and it's just another way for Zuckerburg to grab information about you, your friends and family and internet habits.
 
Wow... now all the junk on my FB wall can be streamed to my cell phone non-stop! :rolleyes:

I guess some users will love this... this is so much better than doing their own phone. That would have been a disaster. I wonder why they didn't include iOS? Probably the revenue sharing rule???? Did they say why no iOS????

Oh... probably because Apple won't let Facebook change notification center, messaging app, lock screen, home screen, and display ads all the time?
 
Sounds like a usage allotment hog to me. So much for the 5GB cap. The wireless companies must love the idea of this thing, at least the ones that aren't unlimited.
 
From the description it look like Facebook Home is more than just a launcher. I have use a ADW.Launcher and NOVA, yet the notification interface is the same as with Samsung's gawd awful TouchWiz. FBH looks like it's got it's tendrils into the messaging and notification. Who knows what else. Just switching launcher doesn't mean all of the FBH services are switch off. Last thing I want is a background service surreptitiously sending my personal info to the mothership.:mad:

The only way to exorcise it would be to root and use Titanium Backup to uninstall it. Then you'd have to take your chances to see how much it was integrated into the ROM. No. The best option is a custom ROM without the stench of FB anywhere near.

Messaging and notification are extensions are what is already out their in a third party SMS service, it just already integrates with FB's chat/SMS app. Other messaging apps can't do that. I tried FB SMS awhile ago and while it promised to integrate, it didn't work (for me). My point being that no launcher though would have access to a background service standalone (or at the very least none does currently to my knowledge). On this site, launchers like ADW, Nova and Telsa (I've used all three) are not able to be differentiated from skins like TW, Sense, Blur, etc.

That being said, if you were to buy the ONE PHONE this comes on and it was considered necessary to being stock, then yes, you'd need to TiBu to remove, freeze, etc. in order to take OTA updates. However, if you're dead set against wanting a Facebook UI launcher, why on earth would you pick the ONE PHONE it comes on? As I mentioned in an earlier post, there's a reason why this is on a midrange, HTC phone - so you have other choices at the same price point. It's not like if you want the HTC One - their premier phone - you'd be forced to have FB integration.
 
umm.. yea you can just go to the Play store and download Facebook Home if you want it... same with other apps as well... what can an HTC phone do that a Moto phone can't?

Fragmentation is not really about what the X device can do that the Y device cannot. It's about devices sharing the same operating system but still look different, behaving different, offering an overall different experience to the user. Even if you are able to make device X - with some effort - look exactly as device Y when out-of-the-box, that's still fragmentation.

Google licenses android to any phone manufacturer pays for it, no questions asked, no real standards enforced. Therefor you'll find a big variety of h/w, varying from awful to high quality. But still, they are sharing the same applications, meaning these applications look different and behaving slightly different to each device. Now, that's the definition of fragmentation.
 
While this looks rather lame, it underscores a big issue for Apple:

iOS cannot be customized at all and is getting further left behind by Android.

While many here ridicule Facebook's launcher, there are many more in the real world who will go "WOW!" when looking for a new phone. Apple is likely to lose sales because of this, whether we like it or not.

Apple really needs to rethink its whole iOS model and get more competitive, more up to date and more responsive to how users use their devices nowadays. It's 2013, not 2008, and the world has moved on.
 
FB is already very / too intrusive

it will be even more :mad:


btw, will it have fully access to all the contact info / directory of the phone ?

let's say some of your contacts are not on FB, will FB "steal" the info ???
 
I have a special love/hate for FB, if it wasn't for FB, I may have never met my bother, who found me through FB.
Most people who use FB only allow friends & familiy be a part of their friends list, not E friends.

It's those who friended strangers(online people they met through Macrumors or other forums :D) to increase their online status with a large friend count:)rolleyes:) and got their @ss handed to them that hate FB.
 
This is exactly what WP8 does. Nothing new. Although, being able to run an interface like this on top of Android is nice, since you then get one of the finer elements of WP8 in addition to having access to all the other Android stuff.
 
From the description it look like Facebook Home is more than just a launcher. I have use a ADW.Launcher and NOVA, yet the notification interface is the same as with Samsung's gawd awful TouchWiz. FBH looks like it's got it's tendrils into the messaging and notification. Who knows what else. Just switching launcher doesn't mean all of the FBH services are switch off. Last thing I want is a background service surreptitiously sending my personal info to the mothership.:mad:

The only way to exorcise it would be to root and use Titanium Backup to uninstall it. Then you'd have to take your chances to see how much it was integrated into the ROM. No. The best option is a custom ROM without the stench of FB anywhere near.

Also - the way FB is doing this is by layering UP - not down. So it's still using the core services, just putting their UI on it, unlike a skin like TW or Sense which puts their own services (i.e., messaging) in place of stock. So if I had to guess, let's say you install this on your HTC One X. It would use the Sense messaging service still as the background process, just use their third party SMS service to display it. So you COULD remove everything FB related and still have a perfectly functioning phone. You can't do that in reverse, like how TW, Sense, Motoblur are built.

It's still early to make these statements as fact, but as I am reading and seeing everything to come from this conference, this is how I am understanding it. If they truly wanted to make a skin that you'd need to "debloat", it would only work on a Nexus, and that's not supported at first ;)
 
I can't begin to describe how much I DONT want merged feeds or live tiles or similar. I want my tech to be there when I want to use it not crying out for attention.
 
I have a special love/hate for FB, if it wasn't for FB, I may have never met my bother, who found me through FB.

This is how I am too. I use facebook primarily to organize events with friends, since we are all scattered and have different schedules. Facebook gives us the ability to organize gatherings, parties, charity events, etc, with so much ease. And I love being able to send pics back and forth with my real friends since we all travel to different places.

However, the ads, spam, and overly dramatic status updates I could do without haha. I love to use facebook as a tool to keep my real life social stuff organized, but I hate it for most everything else.
 
In readings everyone's posts about privacy concerns, the words "Google" and "Facebook" seem to be interchangable on this site.

Yes, you are pretty much right - but for some reason I trust FB even less than Google

So your sentence can be changed to any of the following three...?

Yes, you are pretty much right - but for some reason I trust Google even less than FB

Yes, you are pretty much right - but for some reason I trust Google even less than Google

Yes, you are pretty much right - but for some reason I trust FB even less than FB

Just kidding. :D
 
HTC FB Phone also announced. weird that they disnt talk about it during the keynote

They did. They had HTC and AT&T there to introduce the phone and spent a about 10 minutes on it. Not to mention the 1000's of articles with the same info.
 
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