Facebook Paid Contractors to Transcribe Messenger Voice Chats

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Facebook paid "hundreds of outside contractors" to transcribe user audio clips from its Messenger app, reports Bloomberg.

    Employees who worked on the transcription were not told where the audio was recorded or how it was obtained, nor were they told why Facebook needs conversations transcribed.


    Facebook says that while it had indeed been transcribing audio, it no longer plans to do so. "We paused human review of audio more than a week ago," Facebook told Bloomberg.

    Facebook's decision to pause its audio transcribing comes following scrutiny of human review programs from Apple, Amazon, and Google. The three companies use employees to review voice assistant requests and accidental activations for improvement purposes.

    One firm that Facebook uses to transcribe Messenger conversations is TaskUs, a company that also reviews Facebook content for possible policy violations.

    Facebook says that users who had voice chats transcribed had opted in, and that the transcriptions were used to make sure Facebook's AI correctly interpreted the messages. Despite this, Facebook did not disclose to users that third parties may be reviewing audio, which led some of Facebook's contractors to "feel their work is unethical."

    Facebook's data use policy does mention the collection of "content, communications, and other information," but there's no specific mention of audio.
    While Facebook claims it has stopped the audio transcription program, those concerned should refrain from using Facebook services like Messenger and WhatsApp.

    Google and Apple have temporarily suspended their human audio review programs, while Amazon is letting Alexa users opt out. In the future, when Apple re-implements human review of Siri queries, there will be a clear privacy policy and opt-out option.

    Article Link: Facebook Paid Contractors to Transcribe Messenger Voice Chats
  2. dominiongamma macrumors 68000

    Oct 19, 2014
    Tempe, Arizona
  3. handsome421 macrumors newbie


    Jun 16, 2017
    Facebook: "Yeah you know that totally invasive, unethical, privacy-denying stuff that we were doing just a minute ago? Yeah we're totally not doing that anymore and you're actually not 'dumb *****' for trusting us like Mark Zuckerberg, our provably-human CEO said."
  4. konqerror macrumors 6502a

    Dec 31, 2013
    Wait till the media finds out about medical transcriptionists...
  5. iPhysicist macrumors 65816


    Nov 9, 2009
  6. Rob_2811 macrumors 68020

    Mar 18, 2016
    United Kingdom
    Least shocking news story of the week, we have a winner.
  7. ersan191 macrumors 65816

    Oct 26, 2013
    This is the only known way to make speech to text more accurate...
  8. velocityg4 macrumors 601


    Dec 19, 2004
    You could have knocked me over with a feather. Imagine Facebook the stalwart of privacy. Getting caught up in some privacy scandal.:rolleyes:
  9. urgs macrumors newbie

    Jun 27, 2019
    I understand, why you have to transcribe audio recordings to improve a voice recognition system like Siri, Alexa or Google Assistant.

    But why does Facebook transcribe voice chats? Despite of some unethical things I see no legitimation for Facebook to do that.
  10. Mike MA, Aug 13, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2019

    Mike MA macrumors 68020

    Mike MA

    Sep 21, 2012
    The s*** hit he fan? No, people already know what FB does and will continue using it.
  11. coolbreeze macrumors 68000


    Jan 20, 2003
    Example # 397 of Facebook having zero respect for personal information.

    But guyz, this is a one-off misunderstanding, promise! Sure thing bub.

    Seriously, delete your effing account already. That place is beyond toxic and frankly dangerous.
  12. urgs macrumors newbie

    Jun 27, 2019
    Voice Chat is pure voice. No text conversion is involved.
    For Speech-to-Text, all platforms offer APIs for that. There is no need for Facebook to collect their own dataset. But if they want to monetarize this data...
  13. jontech macrumors 6502

    Feb 26, 2010
  14. Kaibelf Suspended


    Apr 29, 2009
    Silicon Valley, CA
    It's interesting to see lots of tech message boards in which the same people flip on contractors. When it's a story about Uber and Lyft, it's always about how these people should be considered full employees and get benefits and unions because they are good people who are being held out by mean companies.

    When it's a story about Amazon, Apple, Facebook or Google suddenly the contractors are no-account awful people who are out to skirt accountability and can't be trusted because they aren't the real thing, and they are secretly using your information and voice to steal your identity or eavesdrop on your marriage.

    Strange times we live in, for sure.
  15. matt_and_187_like_this macrumors member

    Dec 8, 2015
    The only way to make speech to text more accurate is to forward voice chats of actual consumers without their consent, without their knowledge even, to some private contractors outside of the company the consumers are registered on.

  16. 78Bandit macrumors 6502a


    Jun 13, 2009
    I bet that option was buried inside a 1,000 page disclosure and more likely than not the users simply didn't "opt out" rather than knowingly "opt in".
  17. konqerror macrumors 6502a

    Dec 31, 2013
    Users did consent in all these cases. It was in the terms and conditions. People just clicked through without reading. And private contractors don't matter, your medical records are routinely transcribed by a private contractor.
  18. Apple Freak macrumors newbie

    Apple Freak

    May 22, 2009
    So glad I left that platform and related ones.
  19. jona2125 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 12, 2010
    Apple does it to, I run two divisions that do this.
  20. hagjohn macrumors 6502


    Aug 27, 2006
    There are laws protecting your medical records and Facebook seems to have no laws they can follow.
  21. MacsRgr8, Aug 13, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2019

    MacsRgr8 macrumors 604


    Sep 8, 2002
    The Netherlands
    Exactly. Everyone's on about privacy, but when it comes to Facebook most users just shrug their shoulders...

    BTW.. it's not just the technical / security / legal part of Facebook that makes me avoid it, but also the way most of those users act on Facebook. It's unbelievable what normal folk post on it. Talk about giving up on privacy all together...
  22. AustinIllini macrumors demi-goddess


    Oct 20, 2011
    Austin, TX
  23. baryon macrumors 68040


    Oct 3, 2009
    Hello fellow Humans! It is me, Mark Zuckerberg!
    We are happy to announce that as of yesterday, we have put our Privacy Violating Practices™ temporarily on hold, so all is well! Please continue to use Messenger Audio Messages™, and rest assured that no Human will be listening in on them (including me, obviously)! Please also speak clearly and slowly to ensure that your Friends™ can hear you.
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  24. rk-apple macrumors newbie


    May 4, 2015
    If Google, Apple, and Facebook want to improve voice to text AI transcription, why not just have a simple option for a user to flag a poor transcription and (completely of their own volition) ‘submit for transcription review’. That’s all that’s really needed in my opinion.

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