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Facebook Says Apple's Upcoming Anti-Tracking Prompt is 'More About Profit Than Privacy' [Updated]
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Apple have literally stated, and it’s been shown many times, that they do Not track you across apps or sites and they don’t sell your data to third parties. Give it up mate, you are flogging a dead horse.
They don't sell your data to third parties. So the $2B they make a year in targeted advertising is just billions of dollars other companies give them for free. Never said they are on the same level as Facebook. But they are making billions of dollars off of advertising. No one pays that kind of money for nothing.
It all makes sense now. I guess you're just trying to find a place to rant about the exact topic that the FTC is now investigating you on.
Oh which by the way, Apple is not part of.
Ha yep. I'm worth over $100B but I love to rant on MacRumors and show the Apple apologists their hypocritical ways.
You're right. But guess which company is under the most investigations? Apple is under investigation of some sort by most governments on earth. Facebook is not even close to Apple in that regard.
Fun fact... a stat about 5 years back says the Facebook app on any given mobile device can suck 20% of all the battery usage on any given time period!!
I myself go onto Facebook about once a month. To see what family is up to, what my social and gaming groups have planned, and if certain businesses have any promos/sales. I, just, don't like their interface. That has really gotten me to not bother with them beyond some cursory glances (never mind that it's also a huge time sink).
Alas, I don't know if Facebook going away from iOS would work out. It seems like a large majority of iOS users will cry foul if they can't access it.
Surely that’s already possible?
Settings > Privacy > Apple Advertising > turn off “Personalised Ads”.
There’s more info there too.
I’m a small time iOS App Developer and have no issues with it, I think it’s great that users now have greater choice over if they are tracked.
Facebook is such a cry 😭 baby 👶 just because it’s going to require change of business model but that’s life things change you just ride the wave 🌊
Facebook is such a cry 😭 baby 👶 just because it’s going to require change of business model but that’s life things change you just ride the wave 🌊
Yes and people on MacRumors know how to do that. Would your grandma know how to go into that specific setting and turn off targeted ads? Why doesn't Apple just put a popup on their own ads like they will do with Facebook?
So you have no problem with the popup on Facebook apps and your apps, but do you have a problem that those same popups will not appear on Apples apps?
Not sure how closely you track these things, but Facebook is really no different. From an overall lawsuit perspective, agree with you, but so many of those are intellectual property related, which naturally targets Apple more than Facebook.
Fortunately its only facebook that is currently engaged in multiple FTC led + 48 state antitrust lawsuits.
And for the topic of this particular MacRumours thread, Facebook is a clear winner in the investigation/lawsuits related to data privacy and tracking
I havre noticed all your posting is ant-Apple. Why are you here?
Because someone has to point out Apple's hypocrisy. Everyone on here gets off talking about Apple as the second coming of Christ. Apple puts rules and standards in place which appear good to consumers. Only problem is Apple very rarely follows their own rules. But people love Apple so much and are blind to that fact. I am here to shed a little light on it.
Facebook can go to hell.
Facebook today in a blog post claimed that Apple's upcoming anti-tracking privacy-focused change in iOS 14 will have a "harmful impact on many small businesses that are struggling to stay afloat and on the free internet that we all rely on more than ever." Facebook has also launched a "Speak Up For Small Business" page.
"We disagree with Apple's approach and solution, yet we have no choice but to show Apple's prompt," said Facebook. "If we don't, they will block Facebook from the App Store, which would only further harm the people and businesses that rely on our services. We cannot take this risk on behalf of the millions of businesses who use our platform to grow."
A refresher on the situation: Starting early next year, Apple will require apps to get opt-in permission from users to collect their random advertising identifier, which advertisers use to deliver personalized ads and track how effective their campaigns were. This will occur in the form of a prompt that shows up when users open apps on iOS 14.
In a list of grievances, Facebook said Apple's anti-tracking change is "about profit, not privacy," claiming that small businesses will be forced to turn to subscriptions and other in-app payments for revenue, in turn benefitting Apple's bottom line. Facebook also accuses Apple of setting a double standard, claiming that the iPhone maker's own personalized ad platform is not subject to the upcoming iOS 14 policy:Facebook tones down its language a bit further into the blog post, claiming that Apple's anti-tracking change is "more" about profit than privacy.
Facebook accuses Apple of making "far-reaching changes without input from the industry and the businesses most impacted" in an effort to push businesses and developers into a business model that benefits the company's bottom line. "The truth is, these moves are part of Apple's strategy to expand their fees and services business," said Facebook.
"We believe Apple is behaving anti-competitively by using their control of the App Store to benefit their bottom line at the expense of app developers and small businesses," said Facebook. "We continue to explore ways to address this concern."
As one course of action, Facebook is now showing its support for Fortnite maker Epic Games' antitrust lawsuit against Apple. Facebook said that it will be providing the court overseeing the case with information on how Apple's policies have adversely impacted Facebook and the people and businesses who rely on its platform.
In the meantime, Facebook has outlined steps that small businesses and other advertisers can take to prepare for Apple's anti-tracking change.
Article Link: Facebook Says Apple's Upcoming Anti-Tracking Prompt is 'More About Profit Than Privacy' and Backs Epic Games vs. Apple
Pardon my language, but there are few companies that deserve to **** off more than Facebook does.
Yes Facebook is bad because it targets you across websites. Want to take a guess on how many "bad" things I could point out that Apple does. Things that are far, far worse than tracking you across websites. Apple helps other governments stifle human rights. To me, that is far worse than anything Facebook could do. Apple was caught tricking users into buying brand new $1000 phones when all they needed was a $69 battery replacement. So many things. But Apple is good.
I don’t believe Apple is above reproach. I think they have their faults in many areas. At the same time, I think they do a fine job in the areas that matter most to me. When I say “fine job,” that doesn’t mean there isn’t room for improvement.
If you want to point out hypocrisy where you see it with Apple, go ahead. While you are doing that with your posts, please stop berating fellow forum members which you have been doing with snide remarks and putting words in people’s forum mouths they didn’t say. Continually doing that to many doesn’t create a convivial spirit, in my opinion. You have done it to me with every reply, and I am asking you to stop.
Tricking users into buying new phones? That is certainly hyperbole. Helping governments stifle human rights? Just because they follow the laws in the countries where they do business? I am not even a huge Apple fan, I am typing this on my Lenovo laptop and have a Samsung Galaxy Note as my daily driver phone. Facebook is probably the slimiest mainstream tech company that exists and they bring almost nothing positive to the table at all.
Yea I know. What matters to you is YOUR privacy. What Apple does around the world with human rights doesn't affect you and you don't care. You can ask me to do anything you want. I am not aware of you being a moderator. If you are, then that is my mistake. But I have not broken any rules of this site. And will continue to engage how I see fit.
Here's a comparison: Facebooks tracks users across websites to monetize their tracking history v. Apple does business with countries that enslaves workers to the point where Apple had to pay money to put up nets outside of their factories so jumping employees wouldn't hit the ground. Just because a law exists doesn't mean every company should follow those laws just to have access to that government's money. You do know companies can refuse to do business with countries or governments and just lose out on some of that money, but that would require something Apple is not willing to do: take a stand if it means losing them money.
You do realize that FOXCONN is involved in making most phones that are sold I assume.
And yes if your phone was shutting off without warning that leads people to think their phone is faulty and purchase a brand new phone. Apple only recently started giving out more information on battery life when it became public what was happening.
Yes but who contracts FOXCONN? Apple is able to keep their profit margins the highest in the industry because they do business with repressive countries where workers have absolutely no rights.
Most of the tech giants contract FOXCONN. Apple is just the best target for reporters to write about because stories about them generate the most clicks.