FaceID may bring its share of problems to the table.
We don't know what, but we will sure find out once the phone hits the market. Stay tuned...
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FaceID while driving & accidents
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FaceID may bring its share of problems to the table.
We don't know what, but we will sure find out once the phone hits the market. Stay tuned...
The worst things are those ruddy ring-pulls on beer cans that need both hands to open. How are you supposed to do that while driving - especially if you already have a joint in one hand and a slice of pizza in the other!
Seriously, though - the exceptions to this are:
(a) If you offer a "hands free" mode (which you know users will interpret as "OK to use while driving") then make sure it really is "hands" (and eyes) free.
(b) Things like turn-by-turn navigation mode are intended to be used while driving and should be designed with safety in mind (e.g. try not to have voice mode randomly turn itself off; if you offer an alternative route don't ask them to press a tiny button to accept/reject when they could 'accept' simply by taking the suggested turning; don't drop out of navigation mode the second you think the driver has reached their destination, even if they actually drove past it and need another lap of the one-way system to get back - all of which various sat nav systems have done to me)
(c) For all in-car systems, don't use modal controls or single-touch buttons for everything. (I.e. things where you have to press the mode button 6 times until the display says 'volume up/down' and then hit the up-arrow and therefore can't operate with "muscle memory").
There's no dichotomy between personal responsibility and social responsibility: companies who make millions out of phones or social media can take some reasonable responsibility for avoiding abuse without excusing the behaviour of drivers. "Do not disturb while driving" seems to be a sensible response... but at least 5 years late.
When someone is operating a motor vehicle on the roadway, they should understand what their county ordinances or state laws are First pertaining to cell phone use on the roadway first. Second, if it's not urgent or someone does not need to use the phone, leave it stationed or where you are not tempted to use it. Take advantage of do not disturb with iOS 11. It's called using caution and sound judgement.
I disagree with the part where this is Apple's fault. Selfish idiots will always be selfish idiots... it's not the tech companies' responsibility to keep the idiots from doing stupid stuff. It's time for the citizens of the world to take responsibility for their own actions. Own it. Stop blaming others. It's called "growing up".
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My car has a heads up display... so no need to look at the instrument cluster while my car is moving. As far as changing the radio station or the song... grow up and live with the "wrong song" until you can safely stop your car off the road (or at a traffic light).
You're one of the lucky ones who has a car with a heads up display. Most people don't have one. With regards to the "wrong song" comment, I'm just using an example to indicate that there are many situations, other than using FaceID, that require taking one's eyes off the road. Thanks for the snarky comment, though.
I wasn't being snarky. I was 100% dead serious. What could possibly be more important than paying attention to the road, the other drivers and the immediate surroundings while guiding a 2 or 3 ton vehicle down the road at speeds of 30 to 70 miles per hour? Put the damn phone down and drive or go park your vehicle somewhere and play with your toys.
Are you implying that those are completely safe activities to do while driving? Necessary, sure. But safe? I know of people who have been in accidents performing those activities. So I'm not sure I'd classify them as safe.
So those activities are either safe, which I really can't agree with (nor would the people putting HUD displays in vehicles). Or those activities are ALSO unsafe and you're just muddying the waters here.
Just because we have other distractions in our vehicles (some even necessary) isn't a valid reason to compound the issue by adding additional distractions.
Talking is a distraction, too. I hope you don't talk to your passengers while you're driving. In fact, you shouldn't have any passengers in your car, under any circumstances. They can do something to distract you from keeping your eyes on the road and both of your hands on the steering wheel at all times.
I never mentioned anything about safety implications of those activities. I merely stated that there are other things that we do while driving that could be considered distracting and unsafe. Using FaceID, especially since the user doesn't have to look directly at it, won't make driving any less safe than the myriad other things associated with it.
If you get a phone call, pull over then answer it. How is this even an issue?
Then we have to agree to disagree. Just because we do unsafe or distracting things while driving (you totally left out fast food by the way) doesn't mean adding a new distraction has no additional effect on the overall safety. If you were talking about giving up speaking to other passengers, not looking at your speed gauge and removing all the other distractions in exchange for FaceID, you might have an attempt at a point. But you're not. You're talking about adding yet another distraction to a list that is already too filled with distraction.
Feel better? You have taken something to an absurd level... and still haven't proven your point.
No, first, they should understand that - whatever the law says - texting, emailing, tweeting or updating Facebook while driving (not to mention cycling or crossing the road) are completely moronic things to do; that even making hands-free calls or dictating messages using Siri is probably not the best idea in the world and all you should really be doing with that navigation app while driving is letting it get on with things.
I mean, I don't claim a completely clear conscience on things like changing the radio station (which should be a dedicated button on a well designed in-car radio) , adjusting the heat, or toggling a button on the maps app (which should never be a temptation on a well-designed satnav) but I can't imagine what sort of self-delusion makes people think they can type on a mobile phone while driving.
It's been at an absurd level since your initial response to my comment. Speaking of proving points, the HUD in your car is a distraction, isn't it?
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I'm in full agreement regarding fast food. In fact, any external factor (chatty passengers, sun glare, impatient driver flashing his high beams, motorcyclists splitting lanes, etc.) is a distraction.
Your simply conflating two different things. Understanding laws and abiding them are separate issues. Most who don't know driving laws, either don't care to understand them or plain don't know what they are, which is why educating someone directly benefits other drivers on the roadway. OR you have those are completely negligent, who do understand laws, but have no due regard for others on the roadway contrary to what state laws explicitly state.
Ignorance doesn't override common sense, but there is enough news in the media of tragic accidents due to texting while driving that any driver understands the consequences when someone chooses to alter their attention to a phone. Hence, why when a driver is stopped for a traffic violation or involved in a vehicle accident, regardless of what they think they know, education is key to what laws are, even IF they think they know law. Period.
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Do not use your phone while driving. PERIOD.
Unless it is for an emergency.
If you really need to use your phone for non-emergency matters, find somewhere safe to park and use the phone. I really hate drivers who use their phones while driving -- putting everyone around them in risk.
Unless it is for an emergency.
If you really need to use your phone for non-emergency matters, find somewhere safe to park and use the phone. I really hate drivers who use their phones while driving -- putting everyone around them in risk.
Phone call is not a problem, for phone I can use AirPods or Apple Watch. What if my iPhone turns off while using navigation or music app? Pulling over on highway means taking exit xyz....
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Phone call is not a problem, for phone I can use AirPods or Apple Watch. What if my iPhone turns off while using navigation or music app? Pulling over on highway means taking exit xyz....
Also, if Driving Mode stopped you from being able to unlock the phone, it may help?
Personally, I always use maps whilst on the road, so the phone's always unlocked.
I can't recall a time when the phone turned off/went to sleep when Maps is running. It should always be awake with that App running.
& if you're using Airpods, Siri is even easier to use even during music playback, as tap gestures will conjure her.
Phone call is not a problem, for phone I can use AirPods or Apple Watch. What if my iPhone turns off while using navigation or music app? Pulling over on highway means taking exit xyz....
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Phone call is not a problem, for phone I can use AirPods or Apple Watch. What if my iPhone turns off while using navigation or music app? Pulling over on highway means taking exit xyz....
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Phone call is not a problem, for phone I can use AirPods or Apple Watch. What if my iPhone turns off while using navigation or music app? Pulling over on highway means taking exit xyz....
Why would your phone turn off while using navigation? That’s not how it works.
Audio, maybe, but there are apps for that.
I use both Navigon and Apple maps for navigation in my car, and am regularly in a car while Waze is used on a different iPhone.
The iPhone screens never shut off—or even dim—during a trip using navigation. That would defeat the purpose of actually using it as a guide.
The iPhone screens never shut off—or even dim—during a trip using navigation. That would defeat the purpose of actually using it as a guide.
If you're phone constantly restarts or freezes, you have a rare issue. And even if you need to take an exit that's safer than trying to use your PIN, since with touch ID you still need to use your PIN after a restart. I don't know your country but here in the US there are shoulders you can pull over to for a minute if you need to mess with your phone.
I wouldn't call music stopping an emergency either.
Oh, and you should NOT be using airpods while driving, at least not both.
Posting the same canned response to five posts... way to go. I don't see how that adds substantially to the conversation.