FaceTime Not Working for Many iOS 6 Users

[BvizioN]

I do not get it. In one hand you guys do not understand why people want keep iOS 6 on their older devices and call everyone to update to latest and greatest OS even though it will run slow on older devices. Then you guys also do not understand why people complain slowness when they do update. You guys complain in both ways, makes me wonder the only right way is forcing everyone buy the latest and greatest iPhone or iPad....

Actually, as any one with a normal understanding would have figured out by now.... most ones who complain and moan are the ones left behind with older iOS! The rest have moved forward!

Now the comment you are quoting is aimed to someone who was expecting full featured latest iOS to run with it's full power on a 4 year old device! Guess what? Not in this universe! It would only happen when a 90 years old grandma completes a full marathon run.

 

[serglb]

Actually, as any one with a normal understanding would have figured out by now.... most ones who complain and moan are the ones left behind with older iOS! The rest have moved forward!



Now the comment you are quoting is aimed to someone who was expecting full featured latest iOS to run with it's full power on a 4 year old device! Guess what? Not in this universe! It would only happen when a 90 years old grandma completes a full marathon run.

Agree.

 

[Menel]

Actually, as any one with a normal understanding would have figured out by now.... most ones who complain and moan are the ones left behind with older iOS! The rest have moved forward!

Now the comment you are quoting is aimed to someone who was expecting full featured latest iOS to run with it's full power on a 4 year old device! Guess what? Not in this universe! It would only happen when a 90 years old grandma completes a full marathon run.

http://running.competitor.com/2011/04/news/oldest-woman-to-finish-a-marathon-honored_24441

 

[serglb]

http://running.competitor.com/2011/04/news/oldest-woman-to-finish-a-marathon-honored_24441

LMAO, I'm done lol. See ya guys.

 

[Armand2REP]

I do not get it. In one hand you guys do not understand why people want keep iOS 6 on their older devices and call everyone to update to latest and greatest OS even though it will run slow on older devices. Then you guys also do not understand why people complain slowness when they do update. You guys complain in both ways, makes me wonder the only right way is forcing everyone buy the latest and greatest iPhone or iPad....

That was true on iOS 7, but 7.1 fixed the lag on A4/A5 SoCs. Apple and their app devs are not going to continue supporting older iOS versions so it is in your best interest to get the latest one you can run.

 

[Menel]

That might be true for some, but the only person I know on iOS 6 seems to genuinely prefer it. She doesn't need the new features/changes of iOS 7. And, she doesn't go to online forums to whine about it, either. She just decided she'd stick with an iPhone 5 on iOS 6 as continue to use it "as is" for a few years.

I think the discouraging part, for both her and I, is the notion that a feature was removed. In my mind and probably many others, there's always been an idea that if you don't upgrade, you're left using old sw/hw, but you don't have anything taken away. People used Snow Leopard years after it was released, but Apple didn't unexpectedly prevent Mail or Address Book from working without warning.

I would still be surprised if this was intentional.

The number of security enhancements, alone, mean any considerate, tech literate friend should be pushing their friends to update ASAP.

 

[LostSoul80]

Facetime? What is that?

 

[bawbac]

But that Apple device WILL gain more features, whereas the Android device will simply remain the same (the apps will be updated, but no OS features are added).

I'm not really here to debate which way is better. I like Apple's way, so I buy Apple. If someone doesn't like Apple's way, don't buy Apple. It's really not that difficult.

The majority do not care of gaining any features when upgrading.
Most assume it will fix issues with their iPhones.
Getting new features is just a perk, not the sole purpose of upgrading.

These users own the iPhone.
Telling them if they don't like Apples support or half baked SW upgrades to go purchase something else is ludicrous. They paid good money for a quality product and SW upgrades are crippling the HW.

But expecting a 4 year old device to not only get 4 years of OS updates with all features (even those that aren't possible due to outdated or missing hardware) AND work as fast as the day they bought it?

That person doesn't live in mobile tech reality. 4 years is an ETERNITY. Update your damn phone. Or buy something other than an iPhone.

Apple and technology companies must love you.
Nowhere is it disclosed or the public informed that their devices will become useless, cumbersome to use, slow or degraded each year they own the device.
Then at the 4 year mark, they should not expect the device to fully operate like it did when it was new. It's not like the HW is degrading but the SW that is degrading their device.

 

[BvizioN]

I have no hate for Apple, I'm just not blinded by the fanatical loyalty some people show.

And you seriously think that's something unique to Apple fans? I am not saying it's right or wrong but it's everywhere! On some Android sites, members would jump on your throat if you praised any Apple products, actually people on this site are not bad at all and trolls usually are either tolerated or ignored here.

 

[MisakixMikasa]

Actually, as any one with a normal understanding would have figured out by now.... most ones who complain and moan are the ones left behind with older iOS! The rest have moved forward!

Now the comment you are quoting is aimed to someone who was expecting full featured latest iOS to run with it's full power on a 4 year old device! Guess what? Not in this universe! It would only happen when a 90 years old grandma completes a full marathon run.

I run Windows 7 perfectly on 4 years old computer...what is the issue here?

If Apple purposely remove FaceTime on iOS 6 to push users to update iOS 7, then Apple is one being greedy here.

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Updates are meant for you to *update*. Simple as that. On every iPhone 4 I've seen iOS 7 doesn't run AS FAST AS THE NEWEST TECHNOLOGY but it gives it a boost. ALSO, it depends on what the user has on their phone - that has something to do with the "slowness" of their device. Apple does want you to buy the latest and greatest, but some people cannot afford it. Still updates are meant to *UPDATE*... Old software brings more bugs because they are focusing on UPDATING the newer software.

It is not the issue here. All am I saying is that if you want to force users to update las test iOS on their older devices by cutting off features on older iOS, then Apple must make older devices usable and not slow.

I am more than happy to stay in older version with lesser feature if my devices can run better with older iOS version.

 

[alent1234]

I run Windows 7 perfectly on 4 years old computer...what is the issue here?

If Apple purposely remove FaceTime on iOS 6 to push users to update iOS 7, then Apple is one being greedy here.

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It is not the issue here. All am I saying is that if you want to force users to update las test iOS on their older devices by cutting off features on older iOS, then Apple must make older devices usable and not slow.

I am more than happy to stay in older version with lesser feature if my devices can run better with older iOS version.

running windows 7 on your computer and a cloud service that needs to be patched are two different things

 

[BvizioN]

I run Windows 7 perfectly on 4 years old computer...what is the issue here?

We weren't talking about computer operating systems/hardware but mobile one. Smartphones are going through a lot more changes then PC's do. Hardware and software wise.

If Apple purposely remove FaceTime on iOS 6 to push users to update iOS 7, then Apple is one being greedy here.

Can you tell me, how am I going to satisfy Apple's appetite if I update my iPhone 4s from iOS 6 to iOS 7? How much of my ££ they will get? Since lots of people around here are known to have the word Apple and greed in the same sentence, like Apple is the only cooperation in the planet that loves profits.

 

[sebastian...]

You must be out of your mind if you think an almost 4 year old device would run the latest/more advanced OS as fast as the old one or as fast as the latest device!! And having all the new features of the latest iOS on a 4 year old device? I can only assume you are not being serious!

So you just admitted that by updating your phone will "naturally" run slower, but at the same time you are whining that people don't want to upgrade.

Well for you must be difficult to put 2 and 2 together, but it seems the rest figured it out pretty quick. Why yes, they had to give up a few features like the new gray fonts on gray paper of ios7 Notes, but it seems they were smart enough to recognise it was still worth it.

 

[BvizioN]

So you just admitted that by updating your phone will "naturally" run slower, but at the same time you are whining that people don't want to upgrade.

Dude, how many times do I have to say this? It's not me who have updated to iOS 7 who does the whining! Why would I give a rats a>>> if you update or not? I have updated my older iPhone to iOS 7, it runs great for me, maybe it is unnoticeable slower but since it doesn't get on my way am happy to cope with it for the added features.

You really wanna know who is doing the whining? Go to iOS 7 section of the forum.

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Nowhere is it disclosed or the public informed that their devices will become useless, cumbersome to use, slow or degraded each year they own the device.

Blimey, I really thought that was a common sense! You need someone to tell you that the car you drive will become obsolete after years of usage, same as your refrigerator, washing machine, or even yourself and everyone else around you? Yes, maybe such information is needed for the 21'st century people who would not make 2 steps without falling if there are no warning signs around.

 

[samcraig]

Why are so many people still on the previous version of iOS? The upgrade is free, so it's not a financial issue. It's been out long enough now that we all know it's fairly stable too.

I don't think the guy's comments sounded "self important" either ... but I do think it's one of those things where it's not worth a lot of frustration. Ok ... clearly *something* changed or broke with Apple's servers handling Facetime calls. The fact iOS 7 is still working fine would be good news, IMO. That would tell me I have a solution staring me right in the face, if I needed to use it right away. Just upgrade the device and move on. (Most outages are out of people's control completely.)

IMO, the people who act like they have a right to stay on outdated versions of software and still receive full support for them are being unrealistic. When a company spends hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars working on a major software update and pushes it out to its devices at no charge to the user -- you can bet they want everyone using it! I know I have a Sony Playstation 3 over here and almost every time it has a firmware update available, my option becomes "Do this update, or lose all ability to play games online over the Internet." They don't mess around with supporting the old code whatsoever....

Nothing in the OPs comments suggested he was demanding a fix or expected an older OS to be fully supported.

Further - his needs or desire to stay on an older OS might trump his need for Facetime. I have no idea. But the fact that the new OS is free and is stable might be completely irrelevant to him. He's entitled to stick with the OS version he prefers and he's also entitled to seek out support. Whether or not he's able to attain it is another story. But he's certainly entitled to try and find an answer.

 

[Captainkim]

updatet to ios7.1 - still not working

Have the exact same issues since yesterday, thought it might be time to finally update to ios7(.1), but still can't connect via Facetime, really sucks

 

[sebastian...]

Dude, how many times do I have to say this? It's not me who have updated to iOS 7 who does the whining! Why would I give a rats a>>> if you update or not?

Well, I see the whining is bidirectional. And I see a lot of :

"Why doesn't everybody just update ? Good for Apple punishing those remaining on ios6 muhahaha, they should suffer with the rest of us on ios7.

How come everybody doesn't love the color pink like I do ? I want everyone to like it, I want I want I want .. whaaaa whaaaa. They are so stupid staying with that skeuomorphic atrocity. Thin lines are elegant and just soooo in. Thin is in, skeuomorphic fat is out. We the cool people have decided! "

 

[BvizioN]

Well, I see the whining is bidirectional. And I see a lot of :

"Why doesn't everybody just update ? Good for Apple punishing those remaining on ios6 muhahaha, they should suffer with the rest of us on ios7.

How come everybody don't love the color pink like I do ? I want everyone to like it, I want I want I want .. whaaaa whaaaa. They are so stupid staying with that skeuomorphic atrocity. Thin lines are elegant and just soooo in. Thin is in, skeuomorphic fat is out. We the cool people have decided! "

Yeah, ok. There are some. But I would find hundreds of "childish colors, slow animations, Jony Ive must go, I will never update to iOS 7" and so on and on if I had time to waste.

 

[MisakixMikasa]

We weren't talking about computer operating systems/hardware but mobile one. Smartphones are going through a lot more changes then PC's do. Hardware and software wise.



Can you tell me, how am I going to satisfy Apple's appetite if I update my iPhone 4s from iOS 6 to iOS 7? How much of my ££ they will get? Since lots of people around here are known to have the word Apple and greed in the same sentence, like Apple is the only cooperation in the planet that loves profits.

There are lots of devices out there aren't compatible with iOS 7... For example, iPod a Touch 4 and iPhone 3GS... Cutting essential component of an OS to force people upgrade newer devices is greedy

 

[B4U]

Apple isn't going to revert to iOS 6...ever. The sooner people realise iOS7 is here to stay and get on the bus the better. Otherwise Android and WP8 are waiting for you. Feel free.

Its not a deadweight. It works, not as well as iOS 6 but with iOS 7.1 its no longer a terrible experience. And that in itself is noteworthy. The phone is almost 4yrs old. People seem to forget this; The phone is almost 4 YEARS OLD!

And to chuck that down the throat of said user is acceptable...hm...

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I have an iPhone 4 and iPad 2 running iOS 7.1 just fine, nice and smooth.

My iPad 2 is a giant piece of brick. And your point is?

 

[BvizioN]

There are lots of devices out there aren't compatible with iOS 7... For example, iPod a Touch 4 and iPhone 3GS... Cutting essential component of an OS to force people upgrade newer devices is greedy

Yes, lots of devices like original iPhone, iPhone 3G and 3GS, and original iPad with iPod touch 4 gen or earlier. I am not sure about the iPod 4 gen reasons of why not being supported (my guess is hardware limitations) but com on.... you surely must not expect devices like original iPhone, iP 3G or 3GS to run iOS 7? Or the original iPad? I refuse to believe anyone is that naive!!

To be quite fair, Apple devices are the most supported I know when it comes to updates. I still see people using iPhone 3G and 3G's, never mind the newer ones. They may not do the latest and the greatest but they still do what they did when they were bought.

 

[patent10021]

People still use FaceTime frequently?

Hmm

Interesting

Believe it or not there are people like me who have relatives and friends half the world away and use FT almost every day.

 

[sebastian...]

Yes, my friend does because his stupid Windows computer has no reliable way of audio communication. And it's annoying because FaceTime isn't all that great, especially since I can't do audio-only without covering my camera or something.

You can do facetime audio just fine with any ios, even ios 5. Just close the iphone by pressing the power button. The audio will work without problems but the camera will stop. And it will use much less battery power and internet bandwidth.

 

[MisakixMikasa]

Yes, lots of devices like original iPhone, iPhone 3G and 3GS, and original iPad with iPod touch 4 gen or earlier. I am not sure about the iPod 4 gen reasons of why not being supported (my guess is hardware limitations) but com on.... you surely must not expect devices like original iPhone, iP 3G or 3GS to run iOS 7? Or the original iPad? I refuse to believe anyone is that naive!!

To be quite fair, Apple devices are the most supported I know when it comes to updates. I still see people using iPhone 3G and 3G's, never mind the newer ones. They may not do the latest and the greatest but they still do what they did when they were bought.

All am I saying is that if Apple cut FaceTime on iOS 6 just to force people upgrade to iOS 7, then Apple is greedy. Why? People who with older devices that cannot run iOS 7 will need to purchase new devices. Therefore, more devices sell from cutting features on older version of iOS.

All the phone regardless what brand do what they did when they were brought.

 

[Dotty...]

FaceTime was up the spout!

FaceTime not working on iOS6.1.6 and Lion 10.7.5 for me - not only Mountain Lion as the article says - Some of us can't upgrade to iOS7 or Mavericks, because of hardware, so if this isn't an outage then Apple need to keep their loyal user base onboard that will upgrade in my case when a newer Mac Mini is announced or as MacWorld is having us believe a cheaper iMac.

But in the meantime I suppose alternatively I could go back to using Skype or Tango or Viber etc. on my Mac & iOS6, thats if there isn't a iOS6 and Lion fix in the for seeable future, which I should imagine most that can't upgrade will do, thus cutting Apple user base of FaceTime substantially, which just wouldn't be a good move I feel for .

New is not always better, I say this as I'm still using a G5, why, because I have design software that is more intuitive, then those apps you need to subscribe to, you know who I mean.