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TBH, Touch ID has worked very well for me, and it's gotten faster and more reliable since it first appeared. I like the way it lets me unlock my iPhone without looking directly at it.

I'm not against adding biometric identification methods as long as they're at least as secure as fingerprint scanning. It also might be interesting to let users optionally require more than one to unlock certain apps like password managers.

The only thing that I've found that messes up Touch ID is wet fingers and obviously it won't work with gloves.
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Then I would stand corrected on this subject. Let's see

I'm sure we will know soon. If it is bypassed this easily then it is just a convenience feature for some, not much good for real security.
 
Do you know who IS in charge of your technology curve? Businessmen. So next time you proudly go around, proclaiming yourself as some ultra modern "progress" man, holding your shiny new tech-based toy, remember that none of it was intelligently planned with the idea of, or to better enhance your life. Most tech was invented to turn a profit and very little of it is actually good for the human condition.

There is no reason why these have to be mutually exclusive. Why else would I buy a product from these business, if they didn't offer me some utility or enhance my life in some way?
 
The only thing that I've found that messes up Touch ID is wet fingers and obviously it won't work with gloves.
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I'm sure we will know soon. If it is bypassed this easily then it is just a convenience feature for some, not much good for real security.
Certainly don't speak for everybody, but when you're storing extremely valuable information on your phone you don't want people to be able to go on Facebook and unlock your phone that easily with your picture. If you really want convenience then you should just put no lock on your phone
 
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Since you generally have to hold your phone to use it, I cannot imagine what could possibly be quicker and easier than an ultra-fast and reliable fingerprint scanner like Touch ID.

...Or Android's fingerprint I'd. Just because Android doesn't give everything a cute marketing name doesn't mean they don't have the tech, as well.
 
This is funny... But hey, at least it doesn't explode. (Yet)

This reminds me of the multi hundreds of millions of dollars project the DOD spent years working on. The idea was to develop a camera equipped robotic aiming system that could 'see' the bad guys 'in theater' and point guns and rockets at them.

So they devised an elaborate system of hiding pretend bad guys and having the system 'find them'. It scored 100% in development, but in 'live fire' tests failed miserably.

They were using pictures to 'train' the system. Investigators looked at the 'training', and found out that the 'bad guys' were all in dark background pictures, and there were no bad guys in lighter pictures. In reality, bad guys can be anywhere. It wasn't 'finding the bad guys', it was identifying the dark pictures. If only 'bad guys' followed the rules...
 
I guess the camera and the screen on the S8 is just too good. Or maybe the team responsible for implementing this is that bad. Seriously no one tested this?

Maybe if the owner makes a stupid face that only he/she can remember to replicate during the initial setup lol.

Someone else said this but I thought it was funny..."Wait, we can spin this. That’s how good the camera on the S8 is. So realistic, it can hack itself!"
 
The sad thing is that those are features people use because they feel they are too important. I mean, what level of co dependency do you have with your smart phone?

I have an iPhone 5, my life runs well, my smart phone will not make my life better at all. So I do not get people using all those security crap. Just have a back up of your stuff and that is it! If it get lost you can delete it remotely and that is it.

So being able to access the internet on the go at any time hasn't changed you life in any way? I would think you are part of a tiny minority.

On the security thing your phone might be full of dick pics and pointless ramblings but it is necessary to have a level of security built into the the OS for people whose devices may contain information that is commercially or politically sensitive.

Do you know who IS in charge of your technology curve? Businessmen. So next time you proudly go around, proclaiming yourself as some ultra modern "progress" man, holding your shiny new tech-based toy, remember that none of it was intelligently planned with the idea of, or to better enhance your life. Most tech was invented to turn a profit and very little of it is actually good for the human condition.

What really? They actually wanted to sell some of this stuff? Profound.

Technology has always been marketed from the lightbulb to the internal combustion engine that doesn't detract from the fact that they have completely changed the world. To say it wasn't planned with the intention of enhancing people lives is completely erroneous.
 
Do you know who IS in charge of your technology curve? Businessmen. So next time you proudly go around, proclaiming yourself as some ultra modern "progress" man, holding your shiny new tech-based toy, remember that none of it was intelligently planned with the idea of, or to better enhance your life. Most tech was invented to turn a profit and very little of it is actually good for the human condition.

Truthiness... iPhone 5c? The newer new iPad? Yep...
 
No big surprise here, android has had this feature forever and always have had this problem. They call it low security for a reason and this was before Touch ID was even out.
 
What are you talking about? Touch ID also works with the tip of my nose, but it's still equally secure because my nose and nipples belong to me just like my fingerprints.

I can just imagine the surprise reaction at the supermarket checkout!

WHAT ARE YOU DOING??? Activating Apple Pay. BY EXPOSING YOUR TITS? Well, I log in with my nipple...
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I think this might be the best feature ever.

It might sell more iPhones...
 
I don't see a need for facial recognition at all and I find it dangerous to privacy anyone like a policeman can force you to face the phone to unlock it and he can take all the info he needs. Facial recognition is not a solution!!
 
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The sad thing is that those are features people use because they feel they are too important. I mean, what level of co dependency do you have with your smart phone?

I have an iPhone 5, my life runs well, my smart phone will not make my life better at all. So I do not get people using all those security crap. Just have a back up of your stuff and that is it! If it get lost you can delete it remotely and that is it.
My iPhone is tied to my DropBox account, my LinkedIn account, my SiriusXM account, Kickstarter, Twitter, etc. I know if my phone were ever lost or stolen that I could remotely lock and wipe it but that would require me to have access to my laptop or another mobile device tied to my AppleID. If my iPhone were ever stolen, there is a pretty good chance it would happen when I was away from home which means the thief might have a couple of hours (or days if I was traveling) alone with my phone before I could get to another device on my account to lock and wipe my iPhone. If the thief were able to get past the lock screen before I was able to lock and wipe the phone, they could do a lot of damage (Identity theft, deleting files from DropBox, etc.). That is why security is such a big deal to some of us. It is not a matter of us "feeling we are too important" it is a matter of risk management, bad guys can do a lot of damage in a matter of minutes if they gain access to a stolen phone that is tied to a lot of services & accounts.
 
I don't see a need for facial recognition at all and I find it dangerous to privacy anyone like a policeman can force you to face the phone to unlock it and he can take all the info he needs. Facial recognition is not a solution!!

An armed police officer can even convince you to eat your shoe!

Cheers
 
So someone (politely...I know how difficult that is around here) why TouchID with a backup password isn't good enough.
 
I don't see a need for facial recognition at all and I find it dangerous to privacy anyone like a policeman can force you to face the phone to unlock it and he can take all the info he needs. Facial recognition is not a solution!!
Here in the US, courts have ruled that a police officer can make you put your finger on a finger print scanner to unlock your phone but they cannot make you enter an access code to unlock it (those decisions came from 2 different courts). Based upon the explanation given in the court decisions, the courts would almost certainly put facial recognition & iris scanners in the same category as finger print scanners and allow police officers to force a person to unlock their phones with any biometric type of security. If I were ever stopped by police I would immediately turn my phone off. When it is turned back on it requires me to enter my 6 digit pass code before it can be unlocked via TouchID.

It is not that I have anything to hide, it is simply a matter that I have nothing I wish to share.
 



The security of the facial recognition feature on Samsung's new Galaxy S8 smartphone has come into question, after a video was shared online that appears to show one of the handsets being unlocked by waving a photo of the user's face in front of the camera.

The YouTube video embedded below, recorded at the S8 launch event, shows the registered user of the device presenting a picture of himself to the phone's front-facing camera. After a couple of attempts, the phone recognizes the close-up selfie as the user's face, and the lock screen is subsequently bypassed.

Video posted by iDeviceHelp

Last month it was reported that Samsung had decided to add facial recognition to the Galaxy S8 because of late doubts about the speed and reliability of the iris scanning feature also included in phone, so it's possible that the software algorithms still require some fine-tuning. However, it's more likely that Samsung's cameras rely on standard 2D facial recognition technology, which past demonstrations have shown can be easily tricked with two-dimensional photos, suggesting use as a standalone authentication feature remains limited.

Indeed, in a statement given to ArsTechnica, Samsung explained that facial recognition cannot be used to authenticate mobile payments or to access the device's Secure Folder, both of which require the use of the phone's other biometric features.
Apple is said to be including both iris scanning and a facial recognition feature in this year's high-end "iPhone 8" device. The OLED iPhone is rumored to have a "revolutionary" front-facing camera system with infrared 3D sensing capabilities, which may go some way to overcoming the authentication limitations such as those found in Samsung's device. Apple is also thought to be embedding its Touch ID fingerprint technology into a modified Samsung OLED display.

Article Link: Facial Recognition Feature on Galaxy S8 Bypassed Using Just a Photo
 
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