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Facial Recognition Feature on Galaxy S8 Bypassed Using Just a Photo

Sevendaymelee said:
Do you know who IS in charge of your technology curve? Businessmen. So next time you proudly go around, proclaiming yourself as some ultra modern "progress" man, holding your shiny new tech-based toy, remember that none of it was intelligently planned with the idea of, or to better enhance your life. Most tech was invented to turn a profit and very little of it is actually good for the human condition.
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We live in a global capitalist society of course everything is invented to turn a profit. And your point is ?

Millions upon millions of people would beg to differ with saying that tech does not improve their lives. The elderly person who is more easily able to call for help if injured by a fall, automatically alerting family close by. Impoverished people who are connected to the world via the internet and able to benefit from free online education etc. Technology in general benefits mankind. Of course a lot of it is run by the big money man. Just as pharmaceutical is. Just as agriculture is. Just as weaponary is. The whole world is. We use what is useful to us, and make our own choices as to how far we allow the rest to infiltrate our lives and our principles.
 
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Let's see him try to fool Facial Recognition with a picture from an iPhone screen. :p
This is a testament of great the S8 screen is. :D
 
Kabeyun said:
So someone (politely...I know how difficult that is around here) why TouchID with a backup password isn't good enough.
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Hi Kabeyun,
Personally, I think TouchID and a backup password is good enough. I think Apple & Samsung are just trying to push the envelope by adding facial / iris recognition as the "next big thing" for mobile devices. Once the facial / iris recognition technology for mobile devices matures, they may decide to remove the finger print scanner to save cost & space or they may keep it and use it with facial / iris recognition for ultra secure transactions. Back in 2007 I worked in an office that required employees to use a hand geometry scanner and a 4 digit PIN to get into certain areas in the building. Biometric security will always be a balancing act between cost, convenience (speed and avoiding denied access for authorized users), and desired security level (avoiding granting access to unauthorized users)
 
Sounds like another gimmicky toy-type feature. These phones are reaching their limits--time to get back to major innovation on desktops and merely refine the phones (especially the software).
 
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triton100 said:
We live in a global capitalist society of course everything is invented to turn a profit. And your point is ?

Millions upon millions of people would beg to differ with saying that tech does not improve their lives. The elderly person who is more easily able to call for help if injured by a fall, automatically alerting family close by. Impoverished people who are connected to the world via the internet and able to benefit from free online education etc. Technology in general benefits mankind. Of course a lot of it is run by the big money man. Just as pharmaceutical is. Just as agriculture is. Just as weaponary is. The whole world is. We use what is useful to us, and make our own choices as to how far we allow the rest to infiltrate our lives and our principles.
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The only problem is we learned under a month ago literally all technology is being used against it's own people for nefarious means.
 
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I've done a bit of testing on facial recognition lately. ANY simple camera based visual face detection was beatable. Regardless of the phone we tested the software on. Including iPhone.

the problem is just that photo based recognition is spoofable as long as you can provide an image that the camera thinks is the same.

it's terrible for authentication.

however: Don't confuse this with IR based iris/face recognition that reads more than just the image of your face. these are much better and much more accurate.

at the end of the day, if you're really really really worried, use two factor. never rely on a single method of authentication
 
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BlueCreek said:
Have you even read the article? It says the iris scanner is slow and unreliable, so what's your problem?
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My problem is that you've never used one and judge by regurgitating a statement that's not very accurate. Lots of reviews say it works just fine. It did on my former Note 7 and I doubt they've made it worse for the S8.
 
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nfl46 said:
This isn't surprising. This is Samsung after all. What a complete joke. If they knew it wasn't secure, they shouldn't have added it. But they did because it was "cool." Sad.
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They didn't. It's been on pretty much every Android phone for about 5 years now. It's always been a gimmick and google always recommended against using it. It was introduced before there were fingerprint readers on phone, btw.
 
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iosuser said:
I guess the camera and the screen on the S8 is just too good. Or maybe the team responsible for implementing this is that bad. Seriously no one tested this?

Maybe if the owner makes a stupid face that only he/she can remember to replicate during the initial setup lol.
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And then you will really look stupid when you open your phone in public.
 
kodos said:
But if you do care about security, and not being coerced into opening your device with your face/body: stick with a decent password. More inconvenient, sure -- but that's the tradeoff.
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Or you simply use the fingerprint reader. Or the iris scanner.
 
apppen1 said:
This was the facial recognition not the iris scanner alao don't forget that the iPhone touch Id was bypassed by a nipple.
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Reading this I immediately knew I was in store for 4 pages of replies. Not disappointed. Thanks for starting my day with a smile!
 
Gachiennuocmam said:
But you still pay for the other useless things.
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ok, lets work on this logic (or failed)

given that the two devices are nearly identical in price:

you would
A: get extras, even if you don't use them
B: get nothing extra.

you'd opt for B?

that's not very economical is it?
 
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You basically have 5 security methods with this phone (Fingerprint reader, Iris scanner, face unlock, pin and pattern unlock). So if you're that paranoid pick Iris scanner followed by fingerprint reader. That being said Samsung knew that face unlock was not as secure because you can't use it for Samsung Pay. Google ran into this very same issue when they released face unlock on Android 4.0. They then introduced a "live" check that required you to blink.

If I decide to buy the Note 8 (pending on Apple releasing a redesigned phone and not an S model) I would use either the fingerprint reader or Iris scanner. My gripe is that the fingerprint reader is in a bad location; it should have been smack damn in the middle of the phone so when you pick it up there is no guess work and you will not smudge the crap out of the camera. That's the biggest issue design wise. Next would be no front speaker in the ear piece. And don't get me started on Samsung software updates. Crap, now I'm back to getting the next iPhone.
[doublepost=1491056514][/doublepost]Straight from Samsung's mouth.

"The Galaxy S8 provides various levels of biometric authentication, with the highest level of authentication from the iris scanner and fingerprint reader. In addition, the Galaxy S8 provides users with multiple options to unlock their phones through both biometric security options, and convenient options such as swipe and facial recognition. It is important to reiterate that facial recognition, while convenient, can only be used for opening your Galaxy S8 and currently cannot be used to authenticate access to Samsung Pay or Secure Folder."
 
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H2SO4 said:
This was what I was surprised with too. But then I was also surprised that TouchID was bypassed in a couple of days too.
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Ok, this is valid.
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Lol. So you're comparing Touch ID being bypassed by a pro with special, expensive equipment to a supposed security feature being bypassed by something everyone carries around in their pockets? Ooookaaaayyy....
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RightMACatU said:
Everything I read today will be considered as April 1st BS. ;)
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This story actually came out tmyesterday at AppleInsider. Don't blame you though! ;p
 
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stevet said:
Would you say it's easier to take a photo of someones face and use it from a phone, or go through the 'entire' process that the person in the link did?
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EXACTLY. I've been reading all these comments about - Oh, it only took people 2 days to break apple's touchid...
I watched those videos! WAY different than using a profile picture that is available to ANYONE to trick the phone.
 
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