Non issue really. Who uses facial recognition. Wouldn't trust that yet, not that I'd buy a galaxy device anyway.
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Facial Recognition Feature on Galaxy S8 Bypassed Using Just a Photo
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It's all well and good to debate the moral high ground and legal behavior of law enforcement, but the real world is a very different thing. Police officers routinely overstep their bounds of their legal authority, and we know this explicitly from only a few cases where cops have been filmed or otherwise brought up on charges for it. How many casual traffic stops go unreported when an officer crosses this line? If an officer asks, and the person complies, then the law doesn't really even enter into it. There's no law preventing a police officer from asking just about anything. What an officer cannot do is force someone to do something they don't want to do, which is otherwise protected by law. But law enforcement officers are intimidating personalities, and the general population is trained to comply with their instructions. But as with the USCBP example, knowing your rights might protect the privacy of your iPhone, but could just as easily result in a person being detained longer, or more scrutiny over even minor offenses not previously the subject of a routine traffic stop. Only someone truly naive would think we live in a world where cops won't ask us to unlock our iPhones, and that clinging to the few rights we have won't result in some kind of retaliation, especially in the United States since 1/20/17, much less most of the rest of the world.
Samsung is fast to release stuff that they hear other companies will launch. They want to make the market see that they launched it first. The problem is that EVERYTHING is half-cooked and the other problem is that the half-cooked stuff never gets fixed. See fingerprint unlock that fails constantly.
If the nipple was previously registered, then it makes sense that it would be re-recognized. So that's not the same thing, sorry.
This is really just the standard insecure android facial recognition that's been around for years, not an implementation of the Windows Hello feature that Apple is rumoured to be developing
The only issue with TouchID is in a lot of countries people have wear gloves for much of the year - no-one has yet managed a fingerprint reader that works through gloves!
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You do bring up a good point, though.
Instead of just fingerprints on file with law enforcement agencies, they will want full body scans. I give it 5 years.
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Easy fix, don't place a fingertip on the sensor.
Every law enforcement agency will want to crack Sammi's server now. Why would they not want voluntary mug shots, fingerprints and voice-print?
They don't need to "crack" it. When they have legal justification, they can simply serve a subpoena or search warrant for the data.
It's more rational to be concerned about the true threat, i.e., Google's creation of a dossier on everyone via their "single unifier identifier" ID for every person on the planet is the true danger. Assuming you use their browser and other services, they will have combined in a single file every email you've ever sent or received, every photo you've ever taken or received, everywhere you've driven, every document you've created, every book, article, etc., you've read, the podcast, music you've listened to, the movies you've watched, every search you've ever made, every place you've ever browsed, what you've purchased, etc. That dossier is of course closely held by the Google corporation as the golden egg to sell access to advertisers, insurers, or anyone else that Google decides to, since the their terms of service essentially give them a perpetual license to use all of that, including possibly selling it to successor corporations. Closely held that is, until a hacker, an intel agency, or the government gets access to it.
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that doesn't matter because samsung already confirmed that it isn't secure enough to be used with samsung pay.
Exactly.
Seems everyone loves a great slam against Samsung and runs with the torch before even thinking it through.
Looking at the picture, it was also my first thought that it was a display phone that had obviously been secured to a table to prevent it from being picked up.
Now, if I was displaying a sample device for many customers to play with, I wouldn't want it to become nonfunctional as soon as some fool came and locked it with a personal passcode.
So, I would expect that the ability to lock it with a passcode, fingerprint, face recognition, and / or iris scan had all been disabled.
Common sense would tell all of us that Samsung wouldn't allow a display phone to be disabled by some customer with nothing better to do than cause trouble.
I would expect that the display phone had been configured to let anyone unlock it. And that the person who created the story just wanted his moment of fame.
Reality is that if that person actually created the video because he really thought he had accomplished something, then he probably didn't have the mental faculties to realize that the display phone was intentionally set to prevent some unknown person from making it impossible to unlock and then walking away.
I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung allowed people to preview the programs that create the locking images. But there's no way they'd let someone make it so that no other customers could play with it after the first person locked it.
And, it may still come out that face recognition isn't the best security. But it never has been. It's just an option. They offer fingerprint and iris scanning too.
But, I can guarantee you that the response from the Apple community would be very different if a user posted a video of them unlocking an obvious display model of the iPhone or Mac. They'd be quick to point out that Apple has special software on their demo machines that prevents a customer from deliberately disabling a demo unit. Otherwise all subsequent customers would be unable to try the demo.
I’m actually addressing two things.
That super secure touchID used for banking etc. etc. was bypassed against the facial recognition which isn't actually meant to be used for anything like high level access. Also the fact that is was bypassed so quickly.
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Yes. What I meant was valid was the fact that the press haven't been all over them, (I think), but they would have with Apple.
Hahaha, got to love when insecurity of choices force people to cling to any reason to disregard an entire design - regardless how transparent the actual motive is. Use the finger print reader... I thought this was not needed in the first place.
Value by association to a gadget sure is a pain , huh?
Value by association to a gadget sure is a pain , huh?
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Ssshhhh, you're talking sense, people here need to feel superior to Samsung...
People need to feel superior. So since they own Apple devices, they must prove that other choices are bad, even if they're wrong.
I don't like Android. But that's not because it's inferior. It's just because I don't think that way. I see people do things on them with ease. But I struggle. Probably just because I'm to stuck in my ways, and won't invest time into even trying.
That's not Samsungs fault. It's mine. I'm lazy. I just don't care to learn something different.
But, I also struggle with my iPhone's limitations also. It's just that I know how to use it.
I used to own a very early Android phone. And miss the ease of use and flash storage and file management, etc.
A lot has changed in newer versions of Android to where I just feel lost when I pick it up. Things are moved, and some things now work differently than they used to. And I just don't care to learn it.
But, I see no reason to bash something just because it's not what I use.
It would be great if people could look at things objectively. And appreciate that different things do have some nice qualities.
But, it's the old Ford and Chevy thing. If you like Chevy, then Ford must be crap. If you like Ford, then Chevy must be crap.
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You're quite right
The FBI etc must love this. With a finger print the body has to be alive, and conductive (i guess) and requires the person chained to a chair to actually touch the device. With this feature all tehy have to do is hold the phone in front of the suspect and it unlocks. Who needs a backdoor if you have a frontdoor
People need to feel superior. So since they own Apple devices, they must prove that other choices are bad, even if they're wrong.
I don't like Android. But that's not because it's inferior. It's just because I don't think that way. I see people do things on them with ease. But I struggle. Probably just because I'm to stuck in my ways, and won't invest time into even trying.
That's not Samsungs fault. It's mine. I'm lazy. I just don't care to learn something different.
But, I also struggle with my iPhone's limitations also. It's just that I know how to use it.
I used to own a very early Android phone. And miss the ease of use and flash storage and file management, etc.
A lot has changed in newer versions of Android to where I just feel lost when I pick it up. Things are moved, and some things now work differently than they used to. And I just don't care to learn it.
But, I see no reason to bash something just because it's not what I use.
It would be great if people could look at things objectively. And appreciate that different things do have some nice qualities.
But, it's the old Ford and Chevy thing. If you like Chevy, then Ford must be crap. If you like Ford, then Chevy must be crap.
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You're quite right
Could not had said it better... Bravo to you.
Ooooooooor.......
As like several dozen of your little cronies have already posted:
(https://techcrunch.com/2011/11/11/android-facial-unlock-photo/)
Android Face Unlock has been insecure & able to be tricked by a photo since 2011.
Ouch.... kinda makes your preachy, overconfident, pompous post sting, in that it's CLEARLY false. Again: ouch.
If you had actually paid attention, you haven't proven anything I said to be wrong.
But you have proven some of my points right. I'll let you figure out which points those are, since I'm in a nice mood.
Where did I say that face recognition is good technology exactly????
In fact, I believe I said it has always been a poor idea.
To quote exactly what I said: "And, it may still come out that face recognition isn't the best security. But it never has been. It's just an option. They offer fingerprint and iris scanning too."
But, the rest of my points are valid. It was a demo device that wasn't meant to be locked. They would have intentionally prevented a display model from being locked.
And, in your hurry to discredit me, you proved me right. Your little bit about "cronies" is uncalled for. All you did was prove my point. But I have the dignity to avoid calling you names. I don't have a horse in this race anyway. I don't care who likes what brand.
Lol, you sound like one of those analysts that predicts it BOTH ways so they "can't be wrong"!
In this case you're saying:
"It's only broken because it's in demo mode!"
But then, to temper embarrassment when it comes out that it'll still be broken on retail units you say:
"I mean... it was never secure anyway!"
Why don't you man up & take one stance or the other?
Certainly you agree that it can't both work & not work, yeah?
Lol, what are you even saying??
Facial recognition would be a method that is easy and quick to use, that will very often recognise the legitimate owner, and will very rarely recognise someone else who holds the phone to their face, but could quite easily be tricked by criminals or a curious partner/colleague using your photo, or a criminal who knocks you out and uses your own face, and so on.
So we (and Samsung and/or Apple) can think of situations where this is good enough. Completely unlocking your phone? I don't think so.
Edit: I've read a few posts recently of users who said they do _not_ use a passcode. I find it irresponsible, but for any of those users, facial recognition would be progress. And depending on your country, it _might_ be not illegal to open someone's unprotected phone, but illegal to open a phone protected with facial recognition.
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Hilarious.
I was one of those folks who read these fascinating specs of G8, said wooow and then after a brief googling I think it's a meeeh.
Now this. Add the fact finger ID seems unusable with one hand, you cant reach senser with usual phone grab. Specs of the screen: color gamut is 90% of DCI-P3.
So its like quite raw product. And I would say the ad is also inferior. A bad copy of apples ads. Just like everything else.
I was one of those folks who read these fascinating specs of G8, said wooow and then after a brief googling I think it's a meeeh.
Now this. Add the fact finger ID seems unusable with one hand, you cant reach senser with usual phone grab. Specs of the screen: color gamut is 90% of DCI-P3.
So its like quite raw product. And I would say the ad is also inferior. A bad copy of apples ads. Just like everything else.