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Failed a drug test and lost job and home

I am not going to judge the original poster, but really the context makes me wonder about the whole story. The fact that the OP made a post in another thread about how he had been doing drugs and then posting this. As ITASOR pointed out, it is almost as if the OP is proud of the fact that is he does drugs. Now like I said I won't judge the OP, and frankly I don't care what he does or what he posts here, etc. I just thought this was a strange thread.

I guess we have seen stranger.
 
I agree that this thread has to be total ********, but I will give my opinion because I am in a really bad mood right now and considering what I went through tonight I have about zero tolerance for idiots. :mad: So if anyone is honestly stupid enough to be a crack smoker, they get what they deserve. It takes about 2 seconds of being around a crack head to figure that out. I don't think society fails these people and I don't feel sorry for them either (and I am a person that feels sorry for almost everything that struggles in this world) but crack heads are a waste of space!

So this is great news, I am happy you lost it ALL....now I can rest a little easier that you have almost nothing to your name. That might make your chances of going out and ****ing up someone else's life a little harder without any vehicle to drive when you are high on crack!

Anyway, on a less serious note...does anyone think Dave Chappelle does the best impressions of a crack head??!!! :D
 
Well, assuming the thread is genuine, I'm not gonna pile on either, because if he already knows how stupid his actions were, what's the point?

And to reiterate...he could've been posting from a library. On the one hand, this thread might be BS; on the other, he hasn't posted again, which makes it seem that he doesn't have that much access to a computer. Who the hell knows?

On a totally unrelated tangent: ITASOR, who is that in your avatar? It looks like Art Modell. :eek: :confused:
 
Jovian9 said:
I think it's half-life is 24 hours....so it takes more than a day to get it out of your system.
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nope, half-life much shorter than that. the total elimination life is about 72 hours though. (for cocaine, heroin, meth, etc) so if one cannot go 3 days without, (amount of time to safely pass a drug test) one is with problem.
 
Lau said:
You summed up exactly what I was thinking. :(
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Oh give me a break....I expressed my true feelings and pure facts about crack heads. Hell I understand people make mistakes....Oprah even admitted to "trying" it.

I realize I might have sounded mean or like I was "gloating" in my post but I was really frustrated last night with other things. Crack heads ruin their own lives and the people around them. ITS SAD, but feeling sorry for them doesn't help because they are sick and need help, but once they are hooked on the stuff there is usually no hope. Ok fine then, lets just blame society instead of the person WHO CHOSE TO DO IT. I personally know a crack head who threw away his family and millions of dollars (not to mention his voice and teeth) to smoke crack all day and night. He was a really nice guy too but I am not going to give sympathy for anyone who doesn't genuinely act like they screwed up or at least admits their shortcomings. This dude is just angry cause he got caught and he needs to hear the truth that unless he stops smoking crack he life will be over. Who knows, maybe that is what he wants??!! Everyone wants to tip toe around people and their issues like that actually helps or something.

Anyway, not my problem, but if ANYONE is going to post personal stuff like this on a message board, then they know damn well that have to read what others think!
 
macartistkel said:
I realize I might have sounded mean or like I was "gloating" in my post but I was really frustrated last night with other things.[/B]
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I don't recall referring to your post.
 
I have no sympathy for drug users. Like its been said here, its highly addictive and anyone can succumb to it, which may be true but if you're smart/have morals or anything like that then you just avoid it.

My brothers a huge drug addict, he must be. he's only 16 but on weed, poppers, speed. soon as he gets a full time job he'll be on crack. no question about it. shame as well. he was so smart as a kid, total genius when it came to puzzles. But he took drugs, dropped out of school and now has a job as a panel beater for a garage. no qualifications no future no anything.
not a day goes by that he doesn't scream the house down asking for money, if my parents don't give him money he'll only end up stealing again. lesser of 2 evils and that.

whole point of this post is that I can relate to drugs as its affected my close family. which can only help my opinion more so.


bottom line; drugs are ****. I suspect only users themselves will say otherwise. If you take them regularly then you probably need to find the underlying cause of why you need to be out of reality.
 
macartistkel said:
Oh give me a break....
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No, I also wasn't targeting you in particular, hence the agreement to BV's comment of "a lot of" rather than "so-and-so's post is". :confused: <shrugs>
 
It sounds as though, while he's done drugs recently, the OP at least realises it's something he shouldn't be doing if he wants to do the things he seems to want to do. Hopefully he'll find the 'strength' to pull himself back and achieve what he wants from life. As for why he posted, maybe he's trying to help out people like the earlier 13year old poster who hasn't done drugs, letting them learn through his mistakes.

Blue Velvet said:
There's a lot of ugly gloating in this thread.
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No gloating in my post, not like all those other negative posters. I rock!
 
I take it NO ONE on this thread attends MIT?

Do you believe to attend MIT you are probably smart?

So you would think that they wouldnt do something stupid?

You know that a percentage of every college study body does drugs of one type or another, right?

My point is, I know for a fact MIT has TONS of drugs coursing thru its veins. I know people who study high, take the test high, and get high scores.

Its not drugs that make you stupid, only you can be stupid.

If you cant "handle" drugs, i.e. cant function as a normal facet of society, and still get along, then you do deserve to be labeled a LOSER.

But dont ever put people who use drugs, and drug addicts in the same category. Plenty of people do drugs, and plenty still function perfectly well.
 
Here's what d' Nile looks like from high up. :p
 

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While I think that it seems strange to post on MR after losing your job/home/etc after failing a drug test seems strange I am still sympathetic towards the plight of individuals who have a drug problem. Regardless of the veracity of his original post he clearly needs some form of help, though more from the real world and less from our online rantings.

I've had many experiences with drugs in my life starting from heavy drinking at an early age (12). Very heavy drinking and smoking throughout high school and pot and mushrooms throughout my undergraduate career. Smoking pot both before and after (nearly during ;) exams didn't seem as strange then as it does now. I quit smoking pot and doing mushrooms when I started my grad school more as a personal decision than because of trouble with school/work. However even 4 years later I still feel the urge to indulge. This past year I had some health issues that necessitated quitting smoking and abstaining from alcohol. While at the same time I was on strong pain killers (demerol and oxycontin), and I found it very hard to get off them when I didn't need them for pain control anymore. I wouldn't consider myself a drug addict but I can see how easy it would be to slip into a major dependance.

I don't have anything against those who choose to use drugs recreationally and I think that the only real difference between illicit drugs and tobacco and alcohol is their respective legalities. Its my belief that falling into a cycle of drug use and abuse is not as difficult as some would think. If you've never done drugs or had a problem with substance abuse you should count yourself lucky but you shouldn't think that those with these problems are much different from you other than their circumstance. Certainly choice plays into it but sometimes people pay more for their mistakes than the mistake should warrant.

Good luck to the original poster and I hope he finds the help he needs and manages to find a way to escape his habit.
 
Having gone and read a bunch of the OP posts here, all I can do is shrug and move on.
 
Sdashiki said:
I take it NO ONE on this thread attends MIT?

Do you believe to attend MIT you are probably smart?

So you would think that they wouldnt do something stupid?

You know that a percentage of every college study body does drugs of one type or another, right?

My point is, I know for a fact MIT has TONS of drugs coursing thru its veins. I know people who study high, take the test high, and get high scores.

Its not drugs that make you stupid, only you can be stupid.

If you cant "handle" drugs, i.e. cant function as a normal facet of society, and still get along, then you do deserve to be labeled a LOSER.

But dont ever put people who use drugs, and drug addicts in the same category. Plenty of people do drugs, and plenty still function perfectly well.
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I'm guessing you're one of those perfectly functioning drug users?
 
It's interesting to me the way our language can actively repress basic, ethical instincts. People say "I have no sympathy for you" because the "you" in this case is almost entirely abstract -- if the "I" spent a day in the life of the "you" (whether that "you" is addicted to drugs or simply desperate for any semblance of attention, I'm just trying to imagine this as concretely as possible), I wonder how this would (and if it would) influence how much sympathy the "I" feels. Ethics here is between two people, but what happens to ethics when one of the people seems less than real -- or worse, less than human?

Same with the cliche "drug addict." There's a huge difference between dismissing someone as a "drug addict" and having to face them as a "person who is addicted to drugs." Our language only grants explicit personhood in the latter case. This is not to challenge anyone's personal experience, but to try to think through why we're using the language we're using.

"I think ... this is what is essential in the human conscience: all men are responsible for one another, and 'I more than anyone else.' One of the most important things for me is this assymetry: all men are responsible for one and another, and I more than everybody."

Speaking of language, I guess it's pretty obvious that Levinas (in the quote above) was an ethicist but not much of a feminist ...
 
Plenty of people do drugs, and plenty still function perfectly well.
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Oh that is funny, they are truly delusional--I have met plenty of druggies that CLAIM they have their s*hit together, (however eventually they **** up something...odds are against them usually). I do believe there is a big difference between certain drugs of choice. I am only discussing crack heads in this particular thread and i have seen nothing but it ending tragicically for them.....now I have a completely different view on potheads. But either way, people can do whatever they want as long as they don't **** with my life or anyone's lives I care about.

Also I meet very few people these days that don't self-medicate themselves in some way. For myself I stay away from all of it! (I am the occassional drinker and even in those cases I don't necessarily get drunk all the time because alcohol makes me crazy and stupid at times as well).
 
PlaceofDis said:
everyone f-ups at one time or another in their life. thats life.
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Absolutely. And whatever the intentions/situation of the original poster (I haven't come across his posts much before), I would imagine that a lot of people slating him would want a break if they f-upped at some point. For whatever reason. Even if you personally don't agree with drug use, that's not to say you couldn't get into a similar situation due to debt, a relationship/marriage breakup, physical illness, mental illness, crime, stupidity, bad judgement, and a million other reasons that may or may not be your fault. Bad stuff can happen to or be caused by anyone.

That's not aimed at anyone in particular, by the way....
 
I think we all may have been had seeing as the OP has not commented again. Regardless of its genuineness, it has spurred an interesting debate.

I personally feel very little sympathy for drug users. They, like everybody else have the ability to CHOOSE whether they ever try drugs or not. If they end up becoming addicted, then that is truly unfortunate as it has the potential to complete destroy their life. But that initial choice to try drugs was theirs, and nobody else's. If today, with all the education provided to people about drugs and the high exposure of the negative effects of drugs constantly being portrayed in the media, and you still choose to try drugs, you are an idiot. I know several people that grew up in good homes, with loving and caring parents, that got into using drugs and it has really screwed up their lives. This is why I don't buy into the argument of a person's social situation determining their choice to use drugs.

This is just my opinion, and I completely understand that many people who have lived through using drugs will completely disagree. I suppose that is just ignorance on my part, seeing as I've never used anything, but this is what I see from my perspective.

If you really do have a problem, go and get yourself some help and get your life back on track!
 
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