Failed a drug test and lost job and home

[pseudobrit]

Sorry, and I don't mean to offend anyone...

Yeah. Except the original poster. But he's a ****ing crackhead, so **** him, right?

I just don't see the point...

Then why post here? The guy's down and you kick him some?

Seriously. Some people here are really ****ing sick. I'm gonna go stroke myself now because I've never smoked crack, gone bankrupt, gotten a DUI, wrecked a car, been arrested or sired an illegitimate child. There's so many losers out there and -- look! -- I'm not one of them!

 

[belvdr]

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because I've never smoked crack, gone bankrupt, gotten a DUI, wrecked a car, been arrested or sired an illegitimate child
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It seems each of those has a choice involved, and bad choices are made. Maybe some are not taught any better, but some turn from those things parents and others tried to teach us, because they think they know more. Ironically, they are just showing their ignorance.

So, if you make bad choices, you experience more trouble and problems.

 

[Thomas Veil]

It seems each of those has a choice involved, and bad choices are made. Maybe some are not taught any better, but some turn from those things parents and others tried to teach us, because they think they know more. Ironically, they are just showing their ignorance.

So, if you make bad choices, you experience more trouble and problems.

Yeah, but I have to agree with those who say we need to stop being so snotty about it. As someone else pointed out, we all f-up at some time or other.

Kicking other people when they're down...well, if you believe in karma, you know that stuff like that eventually comes back and bites you in the ass.

I do want to make clear I think doing hard drugs is monumentally dumb. But I know some people who've gotten over habits and have stayed clean and are actually very worthwhile people. They just made that one monumentally dumb mistake.

...(I haven't come across his posts much before)...

He hangs around the political forum, but in short spurts. Sometimes he'll post three topics in one day, and then nothing again for several weeks.

 

[macartistkel]

everyone f-ups at one time or another in their life. thats life.

Oh my gosh, really?? I didn't know that!

At least I always admit when I **** up---this guy is posting angry faces...he is just mad cause he got caught. I realize when its my own fault and sometimes I am lucky and in most cases I suffer the consequences. I think choosing to smoke crack is just asking for bad things to happen to you.

One of my favorite quotes about MISTAKES is: "It could be the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others!"

http://www.despair.com/mis24x30prin.html

 

[maxterpiece]

The people who internalize their own fear of making decisions, use those who have made poor decisions as outlets for that internalized frustration.

 

[mac-er]

Yeah. Except the original poster. But he's a ****ing crackhead, so **** him, right?

Hell Yeah!

 

[Xacent]

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I personally feel very little sympathy for drug users. They, like everybody else have the ability to CHOOSE whether they ever try drugs or not. If they end up becoming addicted, then that is truly unfortunate as it has the potential to complete destroy their life. But that initial choice to try drugs was theirs, and nobody else's.
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Unless of course they became dependant on drugs by using perscribed pain killers that they really did need to function while they were ill and then were physically and psychologically addicted too by the time they no longer needed them for pain.

That sort of greys the arguement of, its your fault because you chose to try it.

Its hard to truly understand why someone would make the choice to use drugs unless you've been in their shoes. Probably more so if you're so intellectually and morally superior that you would never do it in the first place.

 

[sushi]

Unless of course they became dependant on drugs by using perscribed pain killers that they really did need to function while they were ill and then were physically and psychologically addicted too by the time they no longer needed them for pain.

That sort of greys the arguement of, its your fault because you chose to try it.

Uh no.

Crack, Cocaine and Heroin are drugs of choice.

Being addicted to a prescribed pain killer is another issue.

Nice try.

 

[sushi]

everyone f-ups at one time or another in their life. thats life.

True. We all do.

But how we handle these situations is what counts. ...and shows our character.

Those who turn to drugs do it by their own choice.

 

[0098386]

Oh that is funny, they are truly delusional--I have met plenty of druggies that CLAIM they have their s*hit together, (however eventually they **** up something...odds are against them usually). I do believe there is a big difference between certain drugs of choice. I am only discussing crack heads in this particular thread and i have seen nothing but it ending tragicically for them.....now I have a completely different view on potheads. But either way, people can do whatever they want as long as they don't **** with my life or anyone's lives I care about.

Also I meet very few people these days that don't self-medicate themselves in some way. For myself I stay away from all of it! (I am the occassional drinker and even in those cases I don't necessarily get drunk all the time because alcohol makes me crazy and stupid at times as well).

Valid point there. I know drug users who say they have everything sorted but really just have no clue.

Another drug story... My dad caught somebody at work taking drugs over his dinner break. He gave him a second chance, thinking that hey, maybe he won't be so retarded to take drugs in a major printing centre... y'know with about 10 newspapers being produced in a second (one of my dads Australian mates had his whole arm ripped off by a printing press). you gotta be on the ball. Anyways! My dad finds him on drugs AGAIN! so he sacks the bugger if something had gone wrong with him drugged up then it'd be my dad in for the blame.

point being... If you're gonna take drugs at work then become an artist, actor or musician or another less-dangerous job.

 

[kretzy]

Uh no.

Crack, Cocaine and Heroin are drugs of choice.

Being addicted to a prescribed pain killer is another issue.

Nice try.

Thanks, I was going to say the same thing.

Its hard to truly understand why someone would make the choice to use drugs unless you've been in their shoes. Probably more so if you're so intellectually and morally superior that you would never do it in the first place.

Yes it is truly difficult to understand, but ultimately it comes down to common sense. Even if I am intellectually and morally superior ( ), you can't tell me people don't know taking drugs is bad.

 

[emmawu]

I think people do drugs like heroin and crack to quell their emotional pain, then become addicted and caught in a bad justice system instead of being offered treatment. I don't like to judge anyone. It's a shame if anyone is wasting their life because they don't get a chance to get straight. Anyway, just my opinion.

 

[Counterfit]

point being... If you're gonna take drugs at work then become an artist, actor or musician or another less-dangerous job.

Try telling that to Chet Baker, or Charlie parker, or Billie Holiday...

And those are just the Jazz people that died from it. Never mind Miles Davis locking himself in a room in his father's barn for a week as self-imposed detox. Or Coltrane.

 

[bemylover]

But haven't you heard? Marijuana is a gateway drug.

Yeah, it leads to other stuff. Mostly junk food

Half Baked is a great movie

 

[sushi]

Another drug story... My dad caught somebody at work taking drugs over his dinner break. He gave him a second chance, thinking that hey, maybe he won't be so retarded to take drugs in a major printing centre... y'know with about 10 newspapers being produced in a second (one of my dads Australian mates had his whole arm ripped off by a printing press). you gotta be on the ball. Anyways! My dad finds him on drugs AGAIN! so he sacks the bugger if something had gone wrong with him drugged up then it'd be my dad in for the blame.

Your dad is more kind than me.

In my old position, if I caught you with drugs you were history...yesterday. Career ended. Try another profession.

The aviation field has no room for drugs of any kind by any of the personnel involved. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.

It amazes me the people who try to justify drug use by saying that it will not affect their judgement. BS on that. It's like the drunk who says that they were acting normal when everyone around them knows different.

The use of drugs are a personal choice and a bad one at that.

 

[Sdashiki]

Yeah, it leads to other stuff. Mostly junk food

Half Baked is a great movie

i think some people on here are way too general when they refer to "drug-addicts". they seem to think doing something that is labled illegal makes you a loser or an addict.

many consider marijuana, and sometimes plain ol cocaine, to be recreational drugs. and users dont feel they are "addicts" in the sense people here seem to think about crackheads.

So just understand that its QUITE OBVIOUS from comments on here that considering MARIJUANA a NARCOTIC, is friggen stupid.

 

[eva01]

Uh no.

Crack, Cocaine and Heroin are drugs of choice.

Being addicted to a prescribed pain killer is another issue.

Nice try.

hmmmmm when i was on drugs Cocaine and pain killers were drugs of choice.

I just did pain killers just like i did cocaine.

It was no different between them.

 

[greatdevourer]

hmmmmm when i was on drugs Cocaine and pain killers were drugs of choice.

I just did pain killers just like i did cocaine.

It was no different between them.

The difference is that you can be prescribed pain killers, and then keep on taking them afterwards, and get into it that way, almost by accident. No-one will prescribe you cocaine

 

[dornoforpyros]

And this is why I would never choose to live in staff accommodations (I live in a resort town with lots of employers providing it). Because I feel what I do on my own time, is just that, my own time and none of the employers business.
As long as I show up sober & ready to work how I spent my off time is none of their concern.

 

[greatdevourer]

I take it NO ONE on this thread attends MIT?

Do you believe to attend MIT you are probably smart?

So you would think that they wouldnt do something stupid?

You know that a percentage of every college study body does drugs of one type or another, right?

My point is, I know for a fact MIT has TONS of drugs coursing thru its veins. I know people who study high, take the test high, and get high scores.

Its not drugs that make you stupid, only you can be stupid.

If you cant "handle" drugs, i.e. cant function as a normal facet of society, and still get along, then you do deserve to be labeled a LOSER.

But dont ever put people who use drugs, and drug addicts in the same category. Plenty of people do drugs, and plenty still function perfectly well.

Is it just me, or are you condoning drugs? While there may be those who can take it (I'm like that with alcohol - 3 pints, 14 years old and not tipsy - may have summat to do with my grandfather's family working at breweries), but just because some can doesn't mean that it's OK

 

[yoak]

Uh no.

Crack, Cocaine and Heroin are drugs of choice.

Being addicted to a prescribed pain killer is another issue.

Nice try.

Uh no

People often find themselfes in abstinence when their prescription runs out, then start to experiment with self medication to ease the pain.

Good luck to the original poster.

 

[RndmAxess]

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[thedude110]

Well said, yoak.

While no one will dispute that drug use is a choice (holy backlash of existentialism), I'm blown away by the fact that no one seems to want to consider the context of the choice that's made.

If people want to argue "You have free choice. Drugs are stupid. You made a stupid choice," fine. But those who would make that argument must grant that it's reductive -- are drugs always a stupid choice, and if so, why are there so many people on drugs?

If we grant that drug use is a choice, we have to grant that people choose to use drugs (i.e. have reasons), despite the likelihood of addiction. Too often this means that they are making this choice because the other choices they could make seem far worse.

There are people in situations who see cocaine or crack as the best possible choice of a set of choices. That you may not be able to imagine yourself in such a situation does nothing to negate not only its day to day reality, but also the day to day desparation of many of those around us.

 

[devilot]

I do want to make clear I think doing hard drugs is monumentally dumb.

Alcohol isn't typically considered a 'hard drug' and neither is tobacco... but whaddya know, they both kill hundreds if not thousands of people each year.

 

[eva01]

Alcohol isn't typically considered a 'hard drug' and neither is tobacco... but whaddya know, they both kill hundreds if not thousands of people each year.

and i believe it is alcohol that is the only drug that can kill people from withdrawal.

Go figure, those legal drugs kill more people in america than narcotics.

And when i first did drugs i didn't think it was a stupid choice.

And even after i stopped doing drugs I still don't think it was a stupid choice.