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Easy to point the finger when your Typing from your £2000 Powermac, sitting on your £300 Executive chair with your central/underfloor heating on in your nice house isnt it?

Drug addiction isnt something you just 'choose' to do..... you know what - forget it

Look, if the OP wants any advice just give me a PM anytime.
 
BakedBeans said:
Drug addiction isnt something you just 'choose' to do.....
Doing drugs is a personal choice. Period.

And a bad one at that.

You try to make it sound like someone is strapped down and forced to take drugs -- like they have a gun to your head.

We all make personal choices in our lives. Not all choices are good ones. We all make mistakes and must accept responsibility for our actions (mistakes) and get help when we need it.

To recover from a drug problem including alcoholism, one must first accept responsibility for their actions and want to change.
 
pseudobrit said:
Marijuana is not a narcotic.

I always wondered about that as I see police officers on COPS discussing narcotic violations when they were dealing marijuana.

However, it looks like the Merriam-Webster dictionary says it is a narcotic.
 
aquajet said:
But haven't you heard? Marijuana is a gateway drug. :rolleyes:
Marijuana a gateway drug :confused: I know people that have smoked it 2-7 times a week, for over 20 years, and never did anything else... And this not to mention all of those high School kids now of days experimenting with Dope, but they are not all crackheads, actually very few of them try other drugs... But... Well, safe your self the trouble don't use Dope, it really does cause problems, like Anxiety (I have Severe Anxiety its SCARY Stuff), Depression, Mood swings, etc... Drugs are not worth it... No matter what the drug. But yes the smartest of the smart can fall pry to the drugs of this world and its very scary and dangerous.
 
I've known people turn into a gibbering wreck from smoking pot.
I've also known people try heroin and do it once or twice, and move on, and not touch it for 20 years.

My point is, that the substance isn't the problem, the person is. If I have sugar, I turn into a irritable aggressive loony. If I smoke pot, I get a bit stoned for a while.

Should I then tell everyone in the world to avoid sweets, sugar, white bread and rice? No, because that's what affects me. I try to avoid them, because they send me crazy, but everyone is affected differently by different substances.
 
sushi said:
Doing drugs is a personal choice. Period.

And a bad one at that.

You try to make it sound like someone is strapped down and forced to take drugs -- like they have a gun to your head.

We all make personal choices in our lives. Not all choices are good ones. We all make mistakes and must accept responsibility for our actions (mistakes) and get help when we need it.

To recover from a drug problem including alcoholism, one must first accept responsibility for their actions and want to change.

DOING drugs in the first place - of course, but its not all ways as clear cut as you make out to sound, there is often a huge amount of pressure to take drugs, I have felt that pressure myself but Im a very very strong personality and can handle that pressure - some are not that strong.

ADDICTION on the other hand is something else all together.
 
belvdr said:
I always wondered about that as I see police officers on COPS discussing narcotic violations when they were dealing marijuana.

However, it looks like the Merriam-Webster dictionary says it is a narcotic.

Then M-W and you are both wrong.

wikipedia said:
The term narcotic, derived from the Greek word narkotikos, meaning "benumbing or deadening", originally referred to a variety of substances that induced sleep (such state is narcosis). In the U.S. legal context, narcotic refers to opium, opium derivatives, and their semisynthetic or totally synthetic substitutes. Cocaine and coca leaves, which are classified as "narcotics" in the U.S. Controlled Substances Act (CSA), are chemically not narcotics.
Because the term is often used broadly, inaccurately and/or pejoratively outside medical contexts, most medical professionals prefer the more precise term opioid for all natural, semi-synthetic and synthetic substances that behave pharmacologically like morphine, the primary constituent of natural opium.

Cops will tend to refer to any drugs offence as a "narcotics" violation because the traditional "narcotics" agencies, departments or divisions are/were tasked with enforcing more than just opiates.

That doesn't make cannabis an opiate.
 
BakedBeans said:
Easy to point the finger when your Typing from your £2000 Powermac, sitting on your £300 Executive chair with your central/underfloor heating on in your nice house isnt it?

Drug addiction isnt something you just 'choose' to do..... you know what - forget it

Look, if the OP wants any advice just give me a PM anytime.
This coming from one who's avatar is a rave girl with her tongue.. yea just forget it.
Fricken hypocrites.
 
freeny said:
This coming from one who's avatar is a rave girl with her tongue.. yea just forget it.
Fricken hypocrites.

What the hell is a 'rave girl'? One with yellow eye-shadow?
What weird conclusions are you drawing from an avatar?
 
freeny said:
This coming from one who's avatar is a rave girl with her tongue.. yea just forget it.
Fricken hypocrites.

i think that's adriana lima, you know the model (victoria's secret included her quite a bit) models tend to get made up with some outrageous stuff... but what would an avatar have to do with anything anyway?
take a pill man.
:p
 
I’m really surprised of how cynical some of you guys can be.
We can only assume that this guy is telling the truth, and take his problems seriously.
I guess sympathy is something you guys just have to look up.

If a poster told you he was going to kill himself, would you then call him a liar and just let it pass? From what I’ve read here it seems you would.

Calling drug users idiots is just plain idiotic. First of all you are generalizing, and second you don’t now **** about why people start using.
It can all start because of peer pressure or maybe from consoling your self, which might evolve into a regular addiction. Addiction is “normally” caused by an emotional imbalance.

Some Russian orphans living on the street of Moscow inhale glue fumes to forget they are hungry. Are these children idiots too, or just unlucky being born the wrong place and time?

Some people just aren’t as strong as some of you guys seem to be.
So get of your high horse, or just stay away from threads as these.
 
Blue Velvet said:
What the hell is a 'rave girl'? One with yellow eye-shadow?
What weird conclusions are you drawing from an avatar?
One sticking out their tongue with a pill on it has long been part of the rave culture and is representative of being on lsd.:rolleyes:
Even if its not a pill it is certainly in reference to being a pill.
Claiming that it is not a drug reference is just like Calvin Kline saying he wasnt glorifying heroin or child porn in the 90's.

Definately not Adriana Lima.
 

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raggedjimmi said:
I have no sympathy for drug users. Like its been said here, its highly addictive and anyone can succumb to it, which may be true but if you're smart/have morals or anything like that then you just avoid it.

i'd withdraw the moral and smart comment on drug use. some kids raised by parents who try and push "good values" on their kids and expect a lot from them might actually rebel against there parents and do drugs. Also, there is very intelligent people (ivy league educated) in rehab and sometimes very successful goal driven people in rehab as well. Drug abuse is a great equalizer and it doesn't just pick the poor, uneducated, and immoral. your view on drug abuse, even though your brother has gone through it is a bit naive.
 
freeny said:
One sticking out their tongue with a pill on it has long been part of the rave culture and is representative of being on lsd.:rolleyes:

I thought it was a grape. :confused: Maybe she's some crazy fruit addict, popping grapes and blackcurrants till she can't take the vitamin C any more, man. ;)
 
Lau said:
I thought it was a grape. :confused: Maybe she's some crazy fruit addict, popping grapes and blackcurrants till she can't take the vitamin C any more, man. ;)
Ha ha, that's what I thought too. Glad I wasn't the only one...
 
Flowbee said:
It *is* a grape, isn't it?

Yeah, I think so. Either that or it's the biggest LSD tab ever known to man.

I think it's a grape, which is supposed to, you know, draw attention to the mouth area, which is like, hot, or something. Apparently.
 
freeny said:
One sticking out their tongue with a pill on it has long been part of the rave culture and is representative of being on lsd.:rolleyes:
Even if its not a pill it is certainly in reference to being a pill.
Claiming that it is not a drug reference is just like Calvin Kline saying he wasnt glorifying heroin or child porn in the 90's.

Having been at one stage part of the 'rave culture' with more than a passing acquaintance to many forms of drug use, I think you're talking through your hat.

And unlike you who seems rather fond of doing so, I shall resist the temptation to add a pathetic rolleyes to this because no smiley can convey my reaction to your outlandish and ridiculous claims.
 
freeny said:
One sticking out their tongue with a pill on it has long been part of the rave culture and is representative of being on lsd.:rolleyes:
Even if its not a pill it is certainly in reference to being a pill.
Claiming that it is not a drug reference is just like Calvin Kline saying he wasnt glorifying heroin or child porn in the 90's.

Definately not Adriana Lima.

i have heard him mention that it is a grape - but thanks for playing anyway.
 

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Blue Velvet said:
Having been at one stage part of the 'rave culture' with more than a passing acquaintance to many forms of drug use, I think you're talking through your hat.

And unlike you who seems rather fond of doing so, I shall resist the temptation to add a pathetic rolleyes to this because no smiley can convey my reaction to your outlandish and ridiculous claims.
Yes its true. You are officially superior. Blue Velvet has spoken.
:pathetic rolleyes:


several links to Blue Velvets use of pathetic rolleyes- ;)
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2084686#post2084686
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2082659#post2082659
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=2077512#post2077512
 
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