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Favorite web browser for PPC

  • Safari

    Votes: 24 30.8%
  • Firefox

    Votes: 5 6.4%
  • Opera

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • AuroraFox

    Votes: 3 3.8%
  • Internet Explorer 5

    Votes: 4 5.1%
  • TenFourFox

    Votes: 43 55.1%
  • Camino

    Votes: 5 6.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 12.8%

  • Total voters
    78
I had to vote "other" because "Roccat" isnt on the list.
Nope. Neither is Demeter, Sunrise, Stainless, Omniweb, iCab or Shiira. As well as a bunch of other either older or considerably less well known browsers (Mozilla, Netscape, Navigator, etc).
 
Internet Explorer 5

I liked it anyway :eek:

I don't have a PowerPC machine that I go online with, just for word processing, so I don't know if I'd still be using it
 
I had to vote "other" because "Roccat" isnt on the list.

Yes there are tons more browsers I didn't put on, mostly because hardly anyone had heard of these. Usually when you type "browser for PPC" in your search engine, it comes up with TenFourFox, Camino, and Webkit.

***EDIT*** Man, zero votes for Opera! Even IE has two votes, more than I thought it would get! But I still put it on..
As I figured, TenFourFox is winning the day.
 
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Yes there are tons more browsers I didn't put on, mostly because hardly anyone had heard of these. Usually when you type "browser for PPC" in your search engine, it comes up with TenFourFox, Camino, and Webkit.

***EDIT*** Man, zero votes for Opera! Even IE has two votes, more than I thought it would get! But I still put it on..
As I figured, TenFourFox is winning the day.
Here's two for you. iBrowser and NagaraBrowser. ;)

Opera is cool and would have stayed my choice, but Facebook broke it. 10.20, which is the last useable version without bugs and issues just does not have a high enough user agent to fool Facebook into working.

Userscript is awesome though!
 
TenFourFox 24 on my PowerBook has just recently drawn me away from Webkit due to MacTubes Enabler & the fact that the latest WebKit build is getting on a bit now.

For some sites like Tweetdeck & iCloud I use Fluid to isolate them into their own separate apps, as I find Webkit based browsers seem to deal with more 'animated' (with lack of a better term) websites than Mozilla browsers do.

Got ya! :D

I'll say though that I use Camino for Flash and video. I absolutely hate Camino for browsing, but it does a good job with Flash and video.

Not something I generally try with T4FX or Aurorafox as even with the about:config mods I've made it's just too intense for the browser.

(...)
Can both of you provide a link to a website that uses flash and runs better uner Camino than under TFF, so I can compare? For me Camino doesn't even load the movies (icab, Omniweb, Sunrise don't do a good job as well). On Safari and Firefox3 it is sometimes luck on certain sites, if or if not they work.
 
Can both of you provide a link to a website that uses flash and runs better uner Camino than under TFF, so I can compare? For me Camino doesn't even load the movies (icab, Omniweb, Sunrise don't do a good job as well). On Safari and Firefox3 it is sometimes luck on certain sites, if or if not they work.
I don't have any specific links, but any video off of video.bing.com, video.google.com or youtube. Those are mainly the three places I use Flash/Camino.

I'm using the version of Flash that has been tweaked to fool those sites into thinking I have the latest version if that matters at all.

I'm sure I could do Flash in T4Fx, but I have so much going on already that it would probably just lock the whole system up. Sunrise, Safari and Stainless on the other hand, just like Camino for me, have no issues with Flash - other than with the hardware I mean.
 
TFF handles flash just fine here :)
Hmm…it probably does. I imagine if I used a clean profile with no addons it would probably work fine. But I've got a number of addons in my current profile weighing things down. Since I don't view Flash video much it's just easier to load up another browser alongside T4Fx and use that then it it to switch back and forth between profiles.
 
But I've got a number of addons in my current profile weighing things down.

Ok - I just counted up my addons and I use 14 currently but certainly have no need to switch to another browser just for flash, I guess it depends how heavy some of those addons you have are.

Only thing I have a problem with in TFF (it doesn't work in the current Firefox either (linux/Windows)) is they won't work on a MetOffice storm tracker application https://logon.metoffice.gov.uk/Login?goto=http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/premium/stormtracker/ (which it's pretty crucial to have out here) so I use Fluid to dock an 'app' on that site (Safari/Webkit is fine) which works.
 
Here's what I'm using. The heaviest one I think would probably be Stylish. Stylish is doing a lot of CSS calls and since most of the videos I watch are coming from either Google or Bing where I have a site style applied it pummels the CPU. Additionally, some of the Stylish themes I have installed affect the browser appearance and functionality as well (menus, tabs, forcing the bookmark bar to always be visible, etc). Then there's wrestling with NoScript and RequestPolicy on sites I haven't yet visited before I can even get to the video itself.

Both those two addons are great for general browsing, but when I want to view a video quickly it's a PITA. I can turn them off of course, and also turn off site styles in Stylish, but I usually forget to turn it all back on. Just quicker for me all the way around to load up Camino.


And then of course, like you, there are just some sites that no matter what I do video refuses to work in T4Fx.


By the way, this is actually pared down for me to a minimum set of addons that I'm comfortable using T4Fx with.
 

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Are all of these 'Safari' votes counting in Leopard Webkit? If not I'm totally shocked by the number of people still using stock Safari.
 
Are all of these 'Safari' votes counting in Leopard Webkit? If not I'm totally shocked by the number of people still using stock Safari.

Really? I love Safari! It works great on my G4! The only problems I've had: Google chats can't send messages except through Gmail, and rare unresponsive script. But it's pretty fast, and I don't really notice a difference between it and Webkit, although many people argue that Webkit is faster, it's not noticeable on my G4.
 
Really? I love Safari! It works great on my G4! The only problems I've had: Google chats can't send messages except through Gmail, and rare unresponsive script. But it's pretty fast, and I don't really notice a difference between it and Webkit, although many people argue that Webkit is faster, it's not noticeable on my G4.

Unless you have a reason, you shouldn't be using the stock Webkit engine with Safari. It is horribly insecure and outdated. If you like Safari, just use the Webkit for Leopard engine. It's the same, but more secure, modern, and slightly faster.
 
Really? I love Safari! It works great on my G4! The only problems I've had: Google chats can't send messages except through Gmail, and rare unresponsive script. But it's pretty fast, and I don't really notice a difference between it and Webkit, although many people argue that Webkit is faster, it's not noticeable on my G4.
I think the point Gotfrey is trying to make (and probably Intell if he was here) is that Leopard Webkit is more modern and secure. It's receiving regular updates, whereas stock Safari, or even Safari that's been updated as far as you can go on 10.5.8 is not.

EDIT: See! Intell got to it before I did! :D
 
I think the point Gotfrey is trying to make (and probably Intell if he was here) is that Leopard Webkit is more modern and secure. It's receiving regular updates, whereas stock Safari, or even Safari that's been updated as far as you can go on 10.5.8 is not.

EDIT: See! Intell got to it before I did! :D

Ahhhh I see what your saying....I took it to mean that Safari was slow..I'll keep that in mind!
 
Ok - I just counted up my addons and I use 14 currently but ...

Here's what I'm using. ...

Maybe CPU speed plays a role, too. eyogreen has a Quicksilver with a Sonnet Upgrade (right about the Sonnet?) to 1,2GHz G4 and wobegong has 2x2,3GHz G5.

I remember other threads where people that had a G5 with Geforce 7800GTX had better flash experience than people with the stock card, although it is widely believed/thought/said that flash does no use of the GPU.

I guess everyone has to test what browser fits to his hardware the best. Unfortunately I do not have the nerves to do that so I just skip flash content, if it does not play. I do not watch a lot video online anyway.
 
Maybe CPU speed plays a role, too. eyoungren has a Quicksilver with a Sonnet Upgrade (right about the Sonnet?) to 1,2GHz G4 and wobegong has 2x2,3GHz G5.
Yes, this does have a considerable effect. And yes, the QS has a 1GHZ sonnet upgrade with 1.5GB of ram.

Most of my browsing though is done on my 1Ghz PowerBook with 2GB ram. The QS outperforms the PowerBook even though it has less ram simply because my PowerBook has a cache failure. The L(whatever) cache it's supposed to have it doesn't. So my CPU and ram work harder. The QS, because of the Sonnet upgrade has an L3 cache (128mb I think).
 
Ahhhh I see what your saying....I took it to mean that Safari was slow..I'll keep that in mind!

Yeah I was on about security. I don't think there's much of a difference at all in it when it comes to speed but it's just far more superior in the security & the general modernity of it.

I just couldn't get my head around the fact people will still using stock Safari when Webkit is simply Safari with a modern browser crammed in.

Cheers for the explanation fellas! ;-)
 
I'm using the version of Flash that has been tweaked to fool those sites into thinking I have the latest version if that matters at all.

I'm sure I could do Flash in T4Fx, but ...

Which Version is your's?
Mine is shown as version 11.5.502.55 (Yes, I know it is still 10.1.102.64).

You can look up the "pretended" version number in your main/Library/Internet Plug-Ins folder, (not the user Library).

I am asking in case there is a newer one.


PS: found this, did not test it though (a standalone player that is claimed to play flash better) http://www.wimpyplayer.com/products/wimpy_standalone_flv_player.html
 
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