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Downloaded, tried in Leopard, black screen with no sound - deleted.
I would stick to VLC as it plays the same file I tried above perfectly.
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Hugh
I use safari on my g5 running leopard. I only use safari on apple products
Part of a loyalty thing i do: also applies chrome on android/google devices, and ie on windows devices
Part of a loyalty thing i do: also applies chrome on android/google devices, and ie on windows devices
I keep trying and revisiting many PPC browsers for my beloved eMac, but I always end up returning to TenFourFox; sure, it is a bit on the slow side for some websites or running a number of tabs, but the compatibility and plug-in library simply cannot be beat.
Got tired of Safari, basically dl'ed TFF ver 24. It seems snappy now on my quad, might like it and will stick with it for some time. It also works with glimmerblocker on blocking ads. (I have never known about it...)
WA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!
Another victim…er, convert!
Glimmerblocker is actually a systemwide ad blocker. It will work with any browser you use. I generally don't use it though because AdBlockEdge is easier to work with and works in the browser itself.
I switched to AdBlockEdge because AdBlockPlus has a memory leak. And I use the list subscriptions on this page. Works very, very, well. Haven't seen ads in years, except in other browsers.
Oh yeah, if you add in AdBlockElements you can tell T4Fx to block certain page elements. I use it to get rid of the right sidebar on Google News and Facebook.
WA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!
Another victim…er, convert!
Glimmerblocker is actually a systemwide ad blocker. It will work with any browser you use. I generally don't use it though because AdBlockEdge is easier to work with and works in the browser itself.
I switched to AdBlockEdge because AdBlockPlus has a memory leak. And I use the list subscriptions on this page. Works very, very, well. Haven't seen ads in years, except in other browsers.
Oh yeah, if you add in AdBlockElements you can tell T4Fx to block certain page elements. I use it to get rid of the right sidebar on Google News and Facebook.
It's been pretty snappy and highly customizable, removed some of the animations when opening tabs. I hate eye candy, really. It doesn't help on the experience at all. I like everything to open up fast.
Anymore suggestions in mind, to make TFF a tad quicker?
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Not so fast - I've switched from TFF back to WebKit after v24 as not interested in firing up alternatives just to see the vids (flash). My home screen is BBC news and that's full of them it's a pain trying to use multiple browsers/methods just to look at web page content. Shame, I'm a FF user on my laptop (MBP) and work desktop (Linux) and sync made it all work very nicely...
Go into about:config
Can't recall offhand the exact settings, but I'd start with typing in the word pipelineing. That's the number of connections you can simultaneously have to a server. You can adjust this up.
ngpaintdelay is another. Typically, the FF/T4Fx browsers wait to display content until a page is fully loaded. ngpaintdelay tells the browser, screw that, start displaying content as soon as you get it.
There's a bunch more but I can't get to it right now. In the meantime, if you look up words in Google such as "speed+up+firefox, firefox+slow, firefox+high+cpu" and so on you'll get some good modifications.
You can also use some good extensions too. BetterCache lets you determine if you want specific sites to load from cache only, to never cach, or to use normal caching. LocalLoad forces Javascript libraries to load from local (your computer) libraries instead of off the server you're connected to. I also have a Google analytics killer, although you can also use RequestPolicy and NoScript as well.
See my list of addons further up the page. I also have T4Fx set to have a large disk cache and to load most everything from that. But that's specific to my own situation. Use what's best for you.
EDIT: OK, found one of my old posts. Note that that some of my values have changed since this post, but this gives you a good example of settings to change performance wise.
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So after some experience with the new TFF, it's grown on me. The fact I can have add ons and personas from the normal Firefox and it syncs rocks! Now that there is the MacTubes enabler it is sooo much nicer to use.
You can also use themes. Most of them will work even if they say they are only for Windows or such. T4Fx/Firefox will allow you to install anyway if you want.
I use FT DeepDark. It's Windows/UNIX only, but I forced an install of the UNIX version and it works just fine.
Add in the Stylish addon and you can use a variety of CSS stylesheets to style websites any way you like. userstyles.org has a whole range of stuff and some of it makes sites easier. For instance, there are small pieces of CSS code there that allows removal of annoying stuff on Facebook. And if you want to alter parts of TenFourFox using Stylish you can do that too. I have a Stylish theme installed that forces the bookmark bar to stay visible when full screen for instance, transparent contextual menus, etc.
Yeah, it's pretty cool. I have a completely dark Facebook style and a completely dark Google style. Combined with other code snippets and AdBlock Elements I have both sites looking the way I want them.
Note that it's possible to use all of this code in other browsers without the Stylish addon. The code is alternatively written as userscript. If your browser uses userscript in any form you can load this code. Safari and Opera are two that use userscript. T4Fx/AuroraFox/Firefox also have userscript, but that's kind of redundant.
The only problem is that userscript tends to be a one site deal. Opera 10.20 has a feature that mimics the Stylish type addon though and lets you use multiple userscripts.
The main difference between the Stylish add on and userscript is that since the Stylish addon loads all this stuff as CSS it's rendered when the page starts loading.
Userscript on the other hand is the very last thing loaded. So, you have to wait until your page completely loads before any of these styles get applied.
Just one warning. Like any code, some of this is poorly written. I've found that certain styles I've installed have made hits to the CPU because the code was garbage. So, use with care.
Note too that since it's code, you can edit it. The Google and Facebook themes I have installed have MY backgrounds and not the ones they installed with.
EDIT: Here's a couple website themes for you!
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I have now standardized on TenFourFox, as my last favorite, (Safari/Webkit) has tons of issues with Javascript and cannot work properly with Google Chats. TenFourFox was slow at first, at least I thought, but as I am using it more and more it's really not much slower than Safari, not to mention being a lot more secure, customizable, and more modern, plus it still gets updates. I used to use FireFox, but that got pretty outdated on the PPC platform after a while.
On PowerPC Linux...
...one can grab the source, compile it, and you got yourself the latest Firefox. Takes a little time, but its easily doable, and better than waiting for whoever (whomever?) at Debian Central to get around to it. Benefit number ten thousand, six hundred and twenty seven of open source software. This recent Dedoimedo piece pretty much sums up how I feel about the way Mozilla is heading though:
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/firefox-suckfest.html
Seamonkey...no one ever talks about the Monkey, but its quite a nice browser. Old, but nice.
And don't forget iCab. Haters really hate iCab, but Alexander Clausse supports PowerPC, so I support him.
I wonder if that guy at IBM has finished porting V8 yet. Chrome for Power would be a big deal, particularly since Tenfourfox is looking more and more like its gonna hit the wall hard with Australis. I really hope Kaiser can pull off yet another miracle and keep it goin'. I don't like or use Chrome, but increasingly its becoming a web standard all to itself.
...one can grab the source, compile it, and you got yourself the latest Firefox. Takes a little time, but its easily doable, and better than waiting for whoever (whomever?) at Debian Central to get around to it. Benefit number ten thousand, six hundred and twenty seven of open source software. This recent Dedoimedo piece pretty much sums up how I feel about the way Mozilla is heading though:
http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/firefox-suckfest.html
Seamonkey...no one ever talks about the Monkey, but its quite a nice browser. Old, but nice.
And don't forget iCab. Haters really hate iCab, but Alexander Clausse supports PowerPC, so I support him.
I wonder if that guy at IBM has finished porting V8 yet. Chrome for Power would be a big deal, particularly since Tenfourfox is looking more and more like its gonna hit the wall hard with Australis. I really hope Kaiser can pull off yet another miracle and keep it goin'. I don't like or use Chrome, but increasingly its becoming a web standard all to itself.
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Well...
....sometimes the self righteous hit the nail on the head. And, he is probably smarter than you. He is smarter than me, that's for sure. From his about page:
My name is Igor Ljubuncic. I'm more or less 36 of age, married with no known offspring. Since 2008, I am employed as the Linux Systems Expert / Systems Programmer in one of the largest IT companies in the world, working on optimizing kernel images and hacking the living daylights out of Linux. In fact, I lead a team working on developing new, innovative solutions for high-performance computing environments. It used to be my hobby and now it's a paying job. What can be more satisfying than that? Oh, I happen to contribute some 100+ bug reports every single year.
From 2004 until 2008, I used to earn my bread by working as a physicist in the medical imaging industry. My work expertise focused on problem solving and algorithm development. To this end, I used Matlab extensively, mainly for signal and image processing. Furthermore, I'm certified in several major engineering methodologies, including MEDIC Six Sigma Green Belt, Design of Experiment, and Statistical Engineering.
So, I'd say he's entitled to his opinions about the grand Firefox suckfest, and you are of course entitled to yours.
....sometimes the self righteous hit the nail on the head. And, he is probably smarter than you. He is smarter than me, that's for sure. From his about page:
My name is Igor Ljubuncic. I'm more or less 36 of age, married with no known offspring. Since 2008, I am employed as the Linux Systems Expert / Systems Programmer in one of the largest IT companies in the world, working on optimizing kernel images and hacking the living daylights out of Linux. In fact, I lead a team working on developing new, innovative solutions for high-performance computing environments. It used to be my hobby and now it's a paying job. What can be more satisfying than that? Oh, I happen to contribute some 100+ bug reports every single year.
From 2004 until 2008, I used to earn my bread by working as a physicist in the medical imaging industry. My work expertise focused on problem solving and algorithm development. To this end, I used Matlab extensively, mainly for signal and image processing. Furthermore, I'm certified in several major engineering methodologies, including MEDIC Six Sigma Green Belt, Design of Experiment, and Statistical Engineering.
So, I'd say he's entitled to his opinions about the grand Firefox suckfest, and you are of course entitled to yours.
I use the very fast "Stainless" on my late 2005 PM G5. It's the fastest of all that I tried.
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The latest renditions of IE are actually reasonably fast. I remember IE 6, 7 where Firefox and chrome just destroyed it. I use Safari on OSX, and Chrome on windows.
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The latest renditions of IE are actually reasonably fast. I remember IE 6, 7 where Firefox and chrome just destroyed it. I use Safari on OSX, and Chrome on windows.
You might like Sunrise then as well. Pretty much the same thing, but not as spartan as Stainless.
I'd believe it.
Funny thing is safari has a reputation of being a "joke" of a browser just like IE. This I cannot understand because for a few years now, the latest versions of safari have been beating chrome in all manner of benchmarks.
http://lifehacker.com/5948212/brows...-chrome-22-firefox-15-safari-6-and-opera-1202
I'd believe it.
Funny thing is safari has a reputation of being a "joke" of a browser just like IE. This I cannot understand because for a few years now, the latest versions of safari have been beating chrome in all manner of benchmarks.
Same with IE, since around 9 or 10 it has really been improving. Most people just like to hate on companies because "it's cool" and love others for the same reason.
I read "The last version with Mac OS 10.4 and PPC support was SeaMonkey 2.0.14."
and "SeaMonkey for PPC
The SeaMonkey for PPC project provides versions beyond SeaMonkey 2.9 for PowerPC/G4 on Mac OS 10.5.x." (source: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/legacy)
Which is this http://code.google.com/p/seamonkey-ppc/
Wonder in what respect it is different from TenFourFox despite the GUI.
PS: if someone is interested, they list the possible security vulnerabilities for Seamonkey and other Mozilla Browsers here http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0.14
Having used almost every browser, my favourite would have to be Leopard Webkit - it's the fastest on my machine (G4 MDD DP867) and I haven't yet found a website it couldn't render properly. Not only does it support plug-ins still, but they are faster than in any other browser I tried.
Coming in at a close second is OmniWeb. This is a really nice browser, though it has a horrible tab management system (at least on lower resolution monitors). Best of all, it's still updated for 10.4 PPC, so I use it on my iBook G3 800 and it's surprisingly snappy. Much more so than TenFourFox which has always felt agonisingly slow on any Macs I tried it with.
Coming in at a close second is OmniWeb. This is a really nice browser, though it has a horrible tab management system (at least on lower resolution monitors). Best of all, it's still updated for 10.4 PPC, so I use it on my iBook G3 800 and it's surprisingly snappy. Much more so than TenFourFox which has always felt agonisingly slow on any Macs I tried it with.