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Fedex lost ipad2...then it showed up weeks later...keep or send back?
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Too funny.
Dude- step back and seriously look at the situation. The word morals should not even be spoken in this context. The fact that this thread turned into an ethics lecture is an interesting take on human nature. There's too much "holier-than-thou" going on here.
Well, he didn't ask "how do I get away with it", he asked about advice what is the right thing to do. In such a situation, anyone should try to figure out what is the legal situation, what is the moral situation, what is the risk of getting caught, and make a decision based on these facts instead of doing something uninformed and possibly stupid. If you read through all the replies on this thread, then you should get a good grip on the situation. I don't think we should impress our morals on anyone, but we should definitely help anyone making an educated decision.
Someone adviced "just sell it", which is illegal, immoral, and has an unacceptable risk of getting you into trouble. Yes, someone _will_ advice to keep it. But legally, the iPad is either Apple's or Fedex's lost property, and for example according to Californian law, keeping lost property and not trying to return it is theft. And there is a good chance that it would be found out.
Which was the right thing to do morally, it was also legally safe, and there was a slight chance that Apple would have let you keep it. They probably couldn't because someone else was involved (Fedex and insurance), so Apple will be spending some time and money to sort it all out. Overall the most clever thing to do.
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No! What is bankrupting society is that large corporations have no regard for morals and skirt the laws at every chance possible, and succeed on the belief that the brainwashed masses will "do what's right" and maintain morality. Put in a similar gray position I guarantee both Apple and FedEx would keep the "iPad" and be praised as smart business leaders.
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The fact that you feel the need to rationalize the choice to keep the iPad points to your already knowing what the right thing to do is.
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That's ok..I can take it
If apple would have done the right thing by immediately shipping me out another one right when it was deemed lost..then it wouldn't even be a question..but I originally ordered my iPad 7 minutes after it went on sale...their carrier lost it and they were making me wait 5 more weeks..that just p&$$Ed me off...so then I had to stand and wait out in the cold and rain to get one..and I didn't even get the exact one I wanted..apple has already been paid by fed ex....
Yes..I am trying to rationalize it.
The fact that you feel the need to rationalize the choice to keep the iPad points to your already knowing what the right thing to do is.
Exactly.
However, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to do to actually make somewhat of an effort to make both companies aware that it was delivered.
This would A.) clear one's conscience (if there is one), and B.) might convince Apple to take it off of any serial based blacklist (if there is one).
Just because you have no conscious or moral compass, don't try to pawn those same views on to others just to make yourself feel better. Some would keep it, some would not. We all know that. But you have no business calling anyone here a liar.
If Apple "double dips" at the expense of FedEx, that's an issue between Apple and FedEx. When you have even contacted FedEx about this, you have done what you could to prevent it. At least you haven't double dipped on anyone else's cost. Even though calling it "theft" is taking it too far, it would certainly be seen as some kind of misappropriation if you kept it.
Yes, and just as you alluded to, the problem is that corporations are run by the type of people who would've kept the iPad, therefore, one could technically say that this kind of thing "is" what's bankrupting society.
By the way, a note to the few here who seem to have flushed their sense of humor down the toilet some time ago, my comment about "not keeping him out of jail" was a bit tongue and cheek, hence the
symbol I added. But then I guess I mistakenly thought reading comprehension was a prerequisite for forum readers.same thing happened to me. New here by the way. bought a new imac, 3 weeks later fedex either lost it or sent it back to apple. each time i called it was always a different answer from fedex. apple overnighted me a new imac, 2 days later my original imac showed up and is now sitting in my living room in its box.
And of course the mindset of consumers like you that think it's reprehensible for big corporations to do it (unproven) and as a result it's fine for you to do it also. It comes down to the "it's always someone else's fault" mindset.
Kudos to the OP. You did the right thing.