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Right, I went out and bought it knowing it was not a new OS and it was simply going to really optimize Leopard, though the only thing it seemed to have done was optimize a couple of minor bugs, lol. I understand new programs aren't yet out that take advantage of OpenCL but still, minor bugs with no noticeable speed increase? Well, I spose I did get a couple of really cool background pictures...GOOOO KITTY!!!!!!! lol Admittedly it's not as buggy as a typical Windows release, just a little buggy.....:confused:
 
Right, I went out and bought it knowing it was not a new OS and it was simply going to really optimize Leopard, though the only thing it seemed to have done was optimize a couple of minor bugs, lol. I understand new programs aren't yet out that take advantage of OpenCL but still, minor bugs with no noticeable speed increase? Well, I spose I did get a couple of really cool background pictures...GOOOO KITTY!!!!!!! lol Admittedly it's not as buggy as a typical Windows release, just a little buggy.....:confused:
Windows used to be buggy as **** and the initial release of Vista was no exception, but MS have really cleaned up their act lately. The Win7 release candidate is probably the most stable Windows version I've ever used (and frankly the most stable of the two systems on my Mac), and the final release version is bound to be even tighter. Meanwhile, Apple's quality control has plummeted. All I ever got to see of the "it just works" Apple of yesteryear was Tiger, which I used for a short while before the bugfest that was 10.5 came out. Since then it's just been one issue after another, whatever is fixed by a point update, something else is broken. The #1 lie in advertising right now is the new Mac ad about Windows causing "headaches"... it's the other way around these days, Windows has stopped generating headaches while OSX has started piling them up.
 
Just going to install W7 on my bootcamp partition t compare the two but from what i've heard W7 currently is the better upgrade comparing the two.

Alhough i'll wait until its installed to make my mind up.
 
I think $29 is fine as far as pricing goes, there have been a LOT of changes under the hood.

But I understand people's disappointment. Apple is still marketing this as something that will 'enhance your entire Mac experience", etc. Now I understand they're not going to come out and say, "It won't really feel different until a few months have passed and devs take advantage of it" or whatever. But there's still a bit of marketing there that may lead to certain expectations.

The bottom line for me is that it's $29, and in all likelihood will be totally worth the price. But to dismiss all complaints as 100% user ignorance is going too far in the other direction.


Right, but they said from day one that SL is not about new features, it's about stability, speed, optimization, going full 64-bit etc. They've been stressing this from day one, what, a year ago. The fact that people still install it and go "OMG! It's almost totally like before!" puzzles me somewhat, how can anyone miss that info? Is the name not enough of a clue that this isn't an entirely new cat?

On the other hand, word has it (I haven't received my copy yet) that the missed the boat on the stability/speed/optimization part... lots of bugs, minor nuisances and no major speed boosts in the system itself, one might argue that SL fails to do what little it was supposed to do while not really delivering any new killer features... I've pretty much lost my faith in Apple being able to ship a rock solid initial release. I was prepared to write off the embarrassing debacle that was the Leopard launch as a temporary brain meltdown, but after following both Leopard and the iPhone software for a couple of years it's becoming evident that Apple have just about given up on the whole "it just works" thing, except in their marketing.
 
I think $29 is fine as far as pricing goes, there have been a LOT of changes under the hood.

But I understand people's disappointment. Apple is still marketing this as something that will 'enhance your entire Mac experience", etc. Now I understand they're not going to come out and say, "It won't really feel different until a few months have passed and devs take advantage of it" or whatever. But there's still a bit of marketing there that may lead to certain expectations.
Yes, well... their marketing was always heavy with hyperbole, but what do you expect from a company that brands a DVD burner as a "Superdrive"? I still don't understand where they get the "World's Most Advanced Operating System" from. It's slick but also quite crude and rudimentary in places. Doesn't strike me as any more or less "advanced" than Win7, only different.
 
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