Final Boot Camp To Be Offered To Tiger Users For $30?

slughead said:
$30 for what?

I plan to upgrade to leopard anyway, but this is a bunch of crap!

Bootcamp is a cheap hack with NOTHING real to offer except a bootable PC and mac partition on the same hard drive.

If it didn't exist, a 3rd party would've come up with it.

What could the full version POSSIBLY offer?
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Yea, it's not just some cheap hack. It's also all the drivers that are necessary for your components of your Mac to be used in Windows. Get off your horse.

For me, I see no issue with them making people to pay for Boot Camp if they don't want to upgrade. It's not a major issue. Sure, it's free now, but it's a public beta. OS X was once a public beta and now you pay for it. Let them make money. If you don't, there's won't be a company...yes, I know iPods make up for a good amount, but shut up.
 
longofest said:
We're expecting that to be the case, but nothing positive yet that I know of.
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I do believe Vista folks gave done installs already on Boot Camp Beta. There was some talk about either Apple or Microsoft breaking that, but no evidence yet.

The $30 fee is for people that do NOT want to upgrade to Leopard. Given Leopard is likely to have some bugs on release that will not be fixed until 10.5.1 or 10.5.2, $30 for the time period until confirmed stability is a small price to pay for someone who really needs the Vista/XP functionality, and makes any money at all on it, or even has a reasonably good lifestyle.

Poor people will wait till Beta expires 9-07 and steal it anyway.

Rocketman
 
I view this differently than most. I see the charge for boot camp as a punishment for Intel Mac buyers. They were the first to jump on the new Macs, and as a result are the people that have had to deal with all the quirks of the new machines (overheating, discolored palm rests, random shutdowns, any any thing else I don't know about).

I have a PPC machine and will wait for Santa Rosa to come out in the MBP, and I will not have to shell out the extra cash for boot camp.

Part of the appeal of a Mac is that most of the software you need is already on the machine, and people have bought Macs with the intention of running windows on it because the Mac commercials told them that they could. This extra charge for boot camp in not very nice.
 
jne381 said:
I view this differently than most. I see the charge for boot camp as a punishment for Intel Mac buyers. They were the first to jump on the new Macs, and as a result are the people that have had to deal with all the quirks of the new machines (overheating, discolored palm rests, random shutdowns, any any thing else I don't know about).

I have a PPC machine and will wait for Santa Rosa to come out in the MBP, and I will not have to shell out the extra cash for boot camp.

Part of the appeal of a Mac is that most of the software you need is already on the machine, and people have bought Macs with the intention of running windows on it because the Mac commercials told them that they could. This extra charge for boot camp in not very nice.
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In that frame of thought, I have no issue with charging people who want to run Windows on their Mac. You bought a Mac for Mac OS X, not so you can have a great looking machine running a horrible-looking OS. If people want to go and install Windows, then they should be charged extra because it's not the native intention of the computer.
 
Small White Car said:
First of all, Apple NEVER "gaveth" draft-n. No one had it before they charged for it. So saying they took it away is nonsense.

And as for Boot Camp, it's no different than the 30-day free trial of Aperture. The only difference is the free-trial lasted a year instead of a month.

You're telling me that you're REALLY going to complain about getting a year-long free trial of a piece of software? That seems pretty ungrateful to me. You would have been happier if you had to pay from day 1? Why??
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These guys would be happy if Apple "offered" a voluntary retroactive fee of $29.95.

I say let them Paypal donate it to Apple :)

Rocketman
 
Kind of a dumb question but will they make the beta stop working, or just be selling the full official version for $30
 
This is simple.

Developing software cost money (omg wtf, say it aint so!)
Bootcamp is Software.
Bootcamp has been in a testing period, however used successfully by many without a cost to them.
Bootcamp goes final.
Boot camp's cost of development is made up in two parts: Leopard sales, where people pay for leopard and get BootCamp with it. And Straight BootCamp sales to older versions of the OS.

Are people honestly complaining about paying for software? Just shutup and go pirate it if you think that is the right and moral thing to do. But don't make us listen to it without SOME sort of logical and well thought out argument for while Apple should be giving you it's hard work for free.
 
Cost of non-destructive partitioning

bobber205 said:
30 dollars is very reasonable. Especially if it supports all kinds of winblows, including Vista.
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$30 is indeed reasonable even if you just consider the non-destructive partitioning it can do. Many apps that can do this (on the PC side -- I know of none on the Mac) cost at least $50.

Now if Apple could just slipstream the install of Windows through Boot Camp the way Parallels is claiming they can do it now. Then again, I'll probably just be buying Parallels so I can run my couple of Win apps either within or without MacOS as my needs dictate.
 
i think theres still something more coming to boot camp that will make it worth wile perhaps some specail thing that you can run it with out booting like parales if you buy leapord i can see apple giving something more to buying the os but will offer something to the people who dont wanna upgrade just yet
 
Greedy.

No wonder Apple is posting 1 billion profit in a quarter.
Sad part is, people will still buy this boot camp program.
I don't think it will be compatible with VISTA.

Next Mac World conference should be just a Question and Answer session with Steve Jobs, asking him about these money making stunts and all the hardware problems Macs have.
 
Since when have people paid for driver software? Apple is using this to get more people to switch to 10.5. Careful Apple, you are turning into Microsoft.
 
Boot camp has ALWAYS been advertised as a beta part of Leopard. There was NEVER any hint that Apple would release the final version for Tiger users. This is just a matter of Apple being generous.

Besides, if it's paid feature for Leopard buyers, why would anyone expect them to give it away for free to Tiger users? Would you expect them to give any of Leopard's others goodies away to Tiger users for free? What kind of logic is that?

It's beta... it's intended for Leopard... I thought it was fairly clear from the start.
 
I don't understand why people are complaining. Bootcamp has always been beta software. Apple has always said they intended to include bootcamp with Leopard and that the beta would expre at a certain point. Why are people now getting angry at apple after they will be releasing it for people who don't want to run Leopard? They could have just as easily said that in order to use Bootcamp you would need leopard, but they didn't.
 
john7jr said:
Boot camp has ALWAYS been advertised as a beta part of Leopard. There was NEVER any hint that Apple would release the final version for Tiger users. This is just a matter of Apple being generous.

Besides, if it's paid feature for Leopard buyers, why would anyone expect them to give it away for free to Tiger users? Would you expect them to give any of Leopard's others goodies away to Tiger users for free? What kind of logic is that?

It's beta... it's intended for Leopard... I thought it was fairly clear from the start.
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Because I think many Intel Mac buyers were lured into their purchase under the belief that they could run Windows on their Macs as well. Now Apple is saying "Well yes you can, but only if you pay us $30 or upgrade your one year old OS for $130". It just doesn't sit well.
 
Billicus said:
I see this as neither good nor bad but I don't see why owners of Intel Macs *wouldn't* want to upgrade to 10.5...
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If it gets the job done, then why bother? I mean, this should be common sense, right?

With that said, I'd be a bit disappointed if this turns out to be true.
 
Warbrain said:
In that frame of thought, I have no issue with charging people who want to run Windows on their Mac. You bought a Mac for Mac OS X, not so you can have a great looking machine running a horrible-looking OS. If people want to go and install Windows, then they should be charged extra because it's not the native intention of the computer.
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Nice try mate. But I guess the purpose of Booth Camp was to tell Intel Mac users (and millions of prospective buyers of generation 1 intel macs) that they can now run windows too on their machines. Users never told Apple that they WANT it. "Native intention of the computer" should mean that its the capability of your machine and not a trap (if you want , you can..but pay).

Also, People won't directly jump to Leopard and some users take more than an year to adopt new OS. Those guys will fall into this trap. 30 dollars or Leopard upgrade for XXX amount, when they really don't want a new OS.

Good luck with your 30 bucks....
 
Yeah but when the Beta expires, wouldn't that just mean that you could no longer use the Boot Camp Assistant to install Windows? It would seem a little shady to lock out users from accessing their Windows partition after the Beta expires.
 
slughead said:
Bootcamp is a cheap hack with NOTHING real to offer except a bootable PC and mac partition on the same hard drive.
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Cheap hack?

It took very hard work to hack this solution together, and it won those hackers 14 000 dollars. Days later Apple released boot camp beta (which was probably not the intended release date)
Even that hack was extremely hard, unstable, and risky.
 
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