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Nicky G said:
It is HUGE -- but not for the average reader of Macrumors. :)

SOMEONE PLEASE tell me if you can use the serials for three older products purchased separately -- FCP, DVDSP, and Motion -- for an upgrade version _from Production Bundle_ to the full Studio. AND, if so, do the versions have to be the most recent (pre-Studio), or can it be, like, FCPHD and DVDSP 2 and Motion, or DVDSP3 and FCP3 and Motion, or whatnot.


There is a post on the 2pop site from a guy in Canada that called Apple and was told the three products don't have to be the previous version. However, Apple's site clearly states the products must be the previous version. I think I'd go with the web site over what a sales person says seeing how you can't return open software.
 
finally. got notice from apple that my Production Suite to FCStudio Upgrade has shipped out of memphis. should show up on monday. i had read on 2-pop that other people with the same specific upgrade were still waiting til today as well. wonder why the difference in shipping times between this one and the FCP to FCStudio upgrade, though. anyway, phew!
 
Got my copy today (actually cames yesterday but had to sign), installed into a dual 2.3 tiger, ati x800, 2.5 gig ram and this version is the FCP UPGRADE vesion, installed all 20+ gigs of material off of a lot of discs, runnning smoth across teh board, yipee.
 
Question: Can I use my educationally discounted software for commercial or profit use? I'm a student but I also do multimedia design as a side business. I was wondering if I can do that legally?
 
lboyce said:
Question: Can I use my educationally discounted software for commercial or profit use? I'm a student but I also do multimedia design as a side business. I was wondering if I can do that legally?

legally, no.
 
itsa said:

Yeah...I can't find anything anywhere on the internet relating to this and saying that you can't do it. Apple and Adobe both have the most important educationally discounted software and neither of them address this question even remotely anywhere on their sites or anything.
 
lboyce said:
Yeah...I can't find anything anywhere on the internet relating to this and saying that you can't do it. Apple and Adobe both have the most important educationally discounted software and neither of them address this question even remotely anywhere on their sites or anything.


Yes you can.

Education discount just is a special pricing for education, like as for government. This question is like asking:

Can US government use their government pricing/discount for political business?

or

Can Yale use their software to research a new form of DNA and sell their data?

Answer to both questions is YES. Go ahead and use it.
 
I just picked up my copy of Final Cut Studio from the Arizona State computing store...It was $499 plus tax...much better than on the apple store edu discount....installing it now!

Donald :)
 
BZZZZZT

fener said:
Yes you can.

Education discount just is a special pricing for education, like as for government. This question is like asking:

Can US government use their government pricing/discount for political business?

or

Can Yale use their software to research a new form of DNA and sell their data?

Answer to both questions is YES. Go ahead and use it.

Read the license agreement -- EDU copies are NOT to be used for for-profit projects, from what I remember.
 
Nicky G said:
Read the license agreement -- EDU copies are NOT to be used for for-profit projects, from what I remember.


You are correct Nicky. I thought I was the only one who actually read license agreements.


btw... "bzzzzzzzt" for the title, hilarious.
 
Okay, so I checked the Adobe CS license agreement and under article 14 it says as far as academic versions as long as you acquire it legitemately (you're an actual teacher or student) than you are free to use it however you want.

Don't know about apple software though.
 
If you sell it to a school and they teach someone how to use it and charge them for teaching them.... is that not making a profit?


The only way they could hold someone to that is if they let them know up front before they ordered it.
My understanding is, there is no differents other than the price.
 
Donald V said:
I just picked up my copy of Final Cut Studio from the Arizona State computing store...It was $499 plus tax...much better than on the apple store edu discount....installing it now!

All right, who wants to tell this guy that he just bought the "upgrade from production suite" version, and he won't be able to install it? (Or return it, since he just opened the box?) ;)
 
itsa said:
If you sell it to a school and they teach someone how to use it and charge them for teaching them.... is that not making a profit?
:rolleyes:
As others have said. The Edu license agreement Apple has does not allow the to use FCP to cut commercial projects.

My understanding is, there is no differents other than the price.

Price, license agreement and upgrade path.


Lethal
 
wileypen said:
All right, who wants to tell this guy that he just bought the "upgrade from production suite" version, and he won't be able to install it? (Or return it, since he just opened the box?) ;)

I did not want to be the bearer of bad news. :)
 
wileypen said:
All right, who wants to tell this guy that he just bought the "upgrade from production suite" version, and he won't be able to install it? (Or return it, since he just opened the box?) ;)

not necessarily. a lot of schools offer prices lower than the normal apple edu discount on particular software..
 
Anyone know if they have started to ship in the UK yet. I ordered my copy today, but still quoting 3/4 weeks when I placed order (still waiting confirmation)
 
Dang, ordered it a week ago and was supposed to ship out in 1-2 bidness days. Now listed as 5/31.

Crap.
 
Wow. FCP 5 has quite a few bugs. A lot of them has to do with editing HDV. Although I must say, Compressor 2 is the bomb! I love the revamped interface and integrated a.pack encoder.
 
Lacero said:
Wow. FCP 5 has quite a few bugs. A lot of them has to do with editing HDV. Although I must say, Compressor 2 is the bomb! I love the revamped interface and integrated a.pack encoder.
Thanks for the heads-up. Apparently no dot-0 FCP release has been adequately useable since version 2.0. Hopefully it won't be too long before it's updated to 5.0.1 or 5.1.

I have a two-hour travel movie shot in HDV that I've cut (using FCP 4.5) in OfflineRT and matched up timecode with the original tape, just waiting to be reconnected to HDV with FCP 5's media manager.

Does FCP 5 recognize HDV timecode? If not I'll be back to a mostly manual process.
 
James Craner said:
Anyone know if they have started to ship in the UK yet. I ordered my copy today, but still quoting 3/4 weeks when I placed order (still waiting confirmation)

Like everything with The Apple Store there is a big delay. Most orders in the US have been pushed back until mid June.
 
Lacero said:
Wow. FCP 5 has quite a few bugs. A lot of them has to do with editing HDV. Although I must say, Compressor 2 is the bomb! I love the revamped interface and integrated a.pack encoder.

That's not good at all. What's it doing?
 
japanmoran said:
Dang, ordered it a week ago and was supposed to ship out in 1-2 bidness days. Now listed as 5/31.

Crap.

I had my ship date pushed back two times now. I had mine pre-ordered too.
 
itsa said:
Like everything with The Apple Store there is a big delay. Most orders in the US have been pushed back until mid June.

Good news (for me at least). When I placed order on Tuesday last week it said 3/4 weeks but I actually received it on Friday. Hopefully everyone will get their copy soon.
 
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