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I'd kill to see bluetooth, and at least physical volume buttons.

Those were the two reasons why the iTouch didn't appeal to me. I ended up going with a different company, and based on this update, I might go back considering 8GB does me absolutely no justice.

I'm interested to see what this will turn in to. Bluetooth doesn't make it like a phone, stereo bluetooth is amazing on my P2, and it'd be great to see it on the touch.

That and an improved audio chip. I listen to classical, and I can't use the iTouch considering it kind of ruins the music =( You pay $500 for a PMP, you expect top-of-the-line stuff
 
I'd kill to see bluetooth, and at least physical volume buttons.

Those were the two reasons why the iTouch didn't appeal to me. I ended up going with a different company, and based on this update, I might go back considering 8GB does me absolutely no justice.

I'm interested to see what this will turn in to. Bluetooth doesn't make it like a phone, stereo bluetooth is amazing on my P2, and it'd be great to see it on the touch.

That and an improved audio chip. I listen to classical, and I can't use the iTouch considering it kind of ruins the music =( You pay $500 for a PMP, you expect top-of-the-line stuff

What player did you get? I thought Apple's iPods (except the not-really-an-iPod Shuffle) were all considered to have reasonably good audio hardware?

The lack of hardware buttons is a deal killer for me though on the Touch. (And right now it's not even syncing PIM stuff on Windows-an iTunes update apparently broke it, making it doubly worthless for me right now.)
 
I wouldn't mind if you could physically rotate the home button on the next iPod touch (like the original iPod) to control volume while it's asleep and press it to pause (while it's asleep). Or even redesign it a little to work more like the click wheel.
 
I really hope that what actually happened is some programmer was rev'd on coffee at 3:00am and typed ipod2,1 instead of ipod1,2 (which would follow the iphone 1,1 1,2 models). I can see a room full of programmers lol'in about how they created the biggest new feature boner fest ever :p
 
I don't think we'll be seeing GPS on the iPod Touch. Apple wants us all to buy iPhones, they won't be giving us too many features on the Touch.

Although I personally think it's pointless, I can imagine the addition of a camera to the Touch to integrate it better with MobileMe (Touch users being able to upload to their galleries when in WiFi range).

Still, it'll be interesting to see what they give us!
 
i don't think the next round of ipod touch will be adding any new features (except maybe a physical volume control on the side?), but will change both storage and price points. both changes plus the new app store (which apple hasn't even begun to advertise and market) could be tempting for a lot of people on the fence right now.

32GB $199
64GB $299

ataylor
 
What player did you get? I thought Apple's iPods (except the not-really-an-iPod Shuffle) were all considered to have reasonably good audio hardware?

The lack of hardware buttons is a deal killer for me though on the Touch. (And right now it's not even syncing PIM stuff on Windows-an iTunes update apparently broke it, making it doubly worthless for me right now.)
I ended up going with a Samsung YP-P2.

I love the iTouches, but the P2 has better sound quality, stereo bluetooth, and a microphone. I like the features more than Wi-fi =\

Honestly, the ability to pair my mp3 player with my cell phone and keep my phone in my backpack while I walk is amazingly convenient. No more clutter =D

If the iTouch improved on these lacking features that would benefit more than Wi-fi, then I'll purchase one. If not, well, I'm going to pray for another similar player from some other company that will give me what I need with more capacity
 
i don't think the next round of ipod touch will be adding any new features (except maybe a physical volume control on the side?), but will change both storage and price points. both changes plus the new app store (which apple hasn't even begun to advertise and market) could be tempting for a lot of people on the fence right now.

32GB $199
64GB $299

ataylor


I would spend an extra 100 bucks on a 64Gb....
 
Price Drop Too

I really want to get a touch, because I can't see myself going to AT&T and buying a phone with cracks in it and paying more for it and beside all my friends are on Verizon. I hoping that the new touch is cheaper and hopefully they wont get the back plastic too. Why does apple seem to have a problem with plastic? First it was the macbooks that crack and the white that discolors and now this:confused:
 
I mostly just don't like those shiny metal backs they use on most of the iPods. I prefer the 2nd (and I think 3rd) gen Nanos with their textured metal.

Plastic makes sense though if they're shoving radios in these things.
 
I mostly just don't like those shiny metal backs they use on most of the iPods. I prefer the 2nd (and I think 3rd) gen Nanos with their textured metal.

Plastic makes sense though if they're shoving radios in these things.

Well that or just so that the Wi-Fi is stronger. Thats why the 3G iPhones have plastic backs, for increased signal strength. But I dunno, I really like the original mirror finish backs, if anything for nostalgia sake. The little plastic square works just fine.
 
i don't think the next round of ipod touch will be adding any new features (except maybe a physical volume control on the side?), but will change both storage and price points. both changes plus the new app store (which apple hasn't even begun to advertise and market) could be tempting for a lot of people on the fence right now.

32GB $199
64GB $299

ataylor

exactly, my current ipod is 40GB, and as much as i want a touch, i can't downgrade to 32GB. So once the 64GB comes out, it's MINE. :D
 
That seems like it would be pretty expensive. Doable, but I bet they'd raise the price.
 
The change in how Apple receives its revenue from the iPhone is a HUGE positive for the iPod touch.

With the (former) revenue sharing plan, Apple gained not only on the hardware, but the overall contract as well. The two combined made a rather sick profit margin, with a somewhat lower number of models sold.

The (new) subsidized plan gives Apple all of its money (minus the App store, which is identical for the iPod touch and iPhone) up front, likely $199 plus a $300 subsidy for a total price of $500 (more for most other countries where currencies such as the Euro are strong compared to the dollar).

Given that the materials in the iPhone cost approximately $175 dollars to make http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/07/15/iphone_3gs_final_build_price_just_174_33.html,
Apple makes $325 per phone, or more likely around $250 when costs such as marketing, shipping, and the cost of physical Apple stores is factored in.

Now, of course, Apple can't expect to make quite as much on just an ipod, but even a $300 ipod touch likely has a $100 profit margin. $400 models probably make closer to $175 (yeah, they get you on that memory upgrade).

The HUGE advantage from the iPhone really goes to AT&T, which receives almost $1,500 over 2 years, even after its subsidy is subtracted. http://gizmodo.com/5015540/iphone-3gs-true-price-compared. , in addition to the many new customers it has gained. The $300 subsidy actually seems a bit small in comparison.

BOTTOM LINE- While the iPhone still makes more money for Apple than an iPod Touch, it is simply from being a higher value product, and the iPod touch can fill a niche of non-iPhone buyers. Because cannibalization of the iPhone no longer hurts Apple's bottom line much (AT&T, however, is a different matter), they can beef up the iPod Touch as much as they want, instead of holding back like in the past (bluetooth, anyone?)
 
MY PERSONAL PREDICTIONS-

I think that due to its higher up front cost (remember the iPhone costs at least $2,000 with the 2 year contract, although you do get phone service) than the iPhone (I doubt that they'd drop the price for the 8GB to $199, it would make little profit while killing much of the profit from the Nano), they will have to add to the iPod Touch.

---Bluetooth--- This really should be a must, considering the potential market for peripherals that has not existed for previous iPods. It is a little supprising, however, that we have not seen any new peripherals since the launch of the App store, such as a keyboard, etc.

Even without new items, however, wireless headphones could become rather popular with the new iPod, and bluetooth would be cheap to add.

---GPS--- This seems really up in the air. On the one hand, it would add quite a bit of funtionality to the iPod (it would be an Amazing GPS device). On the other, GPS built in is really a phone use, and would be somewhat out of place. The large focus on locality Apps in the App Store hints that it might be useful, while the added cost would bite into Apple's bottom line. Unless Apple expects to gain the revenue back by selling (mostly having someone else sell and receiving 30%) location Apps to iPod touch owners, I would imagine this waits until the iPod Touch line diverges into a premium model an a more nano-esque one.

---Speaker/Mike--- I think that a speaker is unlikely, since the quality and volume of music would have low potential. This has never really been a consideration for Apple in the past, and would take up significant space (which they are obsessed for, with good reason).

For a microphone, I also doubt it. It would really seem to encroch too much on the iPhone, and while it couldn't really be a replacement (you need your phone all the time, not just when you have a Wi-Fi hotspot), it would make it seem like a phone. Product differentiation is important.

Plus, for either of these, A small add-on to the dock (they already have many commercial versions of portable iPod speakers) would add functionality when you need it (while Bluetooth would be something you would want all the time).

---Camera--- I really have no idea. On the one hand, phone cameras still generally suck and were added mostly to have more features. The iPhone had to have one to compete, but Apple hasn't put too much effort into it. On the other hand, 2 megapixels is decent and the lens isn't too bad, so the iPod touch would find one useful. But without a cell network to upload photos on, people would be better using a real camera and dowloading later. When decent (i.e. 4x6 printable) shots can be put inexpensively into a phone, which is dependent on getting a quality lens to a small size, not pixels (I had a 2MP camera, it was far superior to the iPhone because it had a real lens), then the iPhone could take on consumer level cameras.

---Volume Control--- Not a bad idea, but Apple does like the double click control (which I find quite useful, but not a replacement).

---CAPACITY--- I don't think we will see a 64GB model in September. The chips just aren't affordable yet. The 32GB was a surprise, and it will likely be closer to the same time (February) next year when we see an upgrade. The problem is that Flash prices per capacity are dropping more than half per year, but not enough for twice a year. However, given a lack of a capacity upgrade, they will have to make some other substantial change (well, I guess they didn't last year with the shuffle, but its more of an afterthought).

---Chrome Back--- Maybe they'll drop it to bring it in line with the iPhone, but most likely it will be whatever the other iPods are. A backing like the front of the iPod classic would be nice.


And speaking of the IPOD CLASSIC, its days are numbered. Perhaps we will see a hybrid version in the mean time, and it will always be cheaper to use a hard drive, but in a year and a half when 128 GB flash memory become affordable, that will be enough to end it. 500GB would be great, but not enough for the added size and slow speed that would hamper OSX. The iPod touch will be the top, and while we probably will still see the nano (taking the place of the shuffle in some ways), they could be an intermediate.
 
---Speaker/Mike--- I think that a speaker is unlikely, since the quality and volume of music would have low potential. This has never really been a consideration for Apple in the past, and would take up significant space (which they are obsessed for, with good reason).

The speaker will be good for gaming on the iPod touch :)
 
Yep, it would make gaming a possibility on the system, and would be EXTREMELY useful for those of us who listen to podcasts or watch video on them in many situations.
 
Can't Wait!

I've been wanting a Ipod Touch. But a friend of mine, told me there is going to be new ones coming out in the Fall. So, I decided to wait. And I hope the new ones don't crash as much as the old ones (I borrowed my friend's to try it out), and they are less expensive. That was the biggest set-back for getting it. Right now I have a 30g Video Gen. 5, and I got it for about the same price for the 8gig Touch.
I see a point of putting a GPS on the new model, but I want a GPS, just go buy one. I don't want to Touch to have too much stuff on it, that it will crash. I absolutely do not see a point of putting Bluetooth on it. I would rather see a External Speaker and Camera. But, the camera might be a little too much. But I can hope, right? :)
I would also like to see new colours. I can see why people don't want the "fun" colours for the Iphone, because that is a more "serious" thing that Apple has came out with.

I can't wait for the new ones to come out!! :D
 
Hope that there are speakers on the new one, that would be great for sharing movies and like that. :)

And also it should be GPS, "Copy&Paste" and of course Bluetooth, that would be great too. :D
 
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