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Same thing with the Boeing 737 Max. And it is back in the air.

Also, humans don't do great at driving. In the US 35-45,000 die each year in car accidents, and 2 million suffer injuries.

That is my point, if the Pilots of Boeing 737 Max were able to manually control the plane in that specific case, that accident would not have happened.
 
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So it may not even be a car you can buy, rather a car that is integrated into some sort of Uber-like thing*. I am ok with that to be honest.

*Since it says sold to agencies, it may just be sold to Uber and Lyft as is, since they kind of already have that marketshare.
Why sell the thing at all? Why have Uber or Lyft profit off these when Apple could roll out their own service?
 
I somewhat call BS on this. The US public are not ready for a driverless car just yet. On a survey I read the majority said they wouldn’t feel safe.

Manfred Harrer of Porsche chassis department has been hired by Apple. Apple aren’t going to hire one of the top (if not thee) chassis engineers in the world to design a car thats not supposed to be driven. Its not in the interests of either.
 
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If you ask me, self-driving capabilities are only part of the challenge - just regular electric vehicle technology needs improvement to become ubiquitous.

I really want to like electric cars, and I’m still hoping to own one eventually. But the reality is that, for current models, they cost too much, the range is too low, they take too long to charge, and if the battery wears out, it is literally cheaper to replace the car instead of just the battery.

I don’t mean this as a “hating on electric cars” post, but they just don’t seem ready to me.
 
if the battery wears out, it is literally cheaper to replace the car instead of just the battery.
I’d argue that is mainly a side effect of the fact that most EVs are cheap cars with tax subsidized batteries. The battery is no longer overly expensive to replace but the car has so little value that you are currently correct. By comparison, an engine or transmission is a serious repair bill on a gasoline powered car. At least the battery gracefully loses capacity instead of just falling over dead one day. Labor on a battery repair should be lower than an engine or transmission so the day is coming where an EV is just plain cheaper to own long term.
 
I too am skeptical about this. Apple is a consumer electronics firm. I don't understand why they would make a car that's sold to other businesses, not directly to consumers. And I can't see autonomous vehicles being deployed that quickly. The biggest problems for autonomous vehicles are the other vehicles on the road that are driven by humans. If all cars were autonomous and could communicate their proximity, roads would be much safer than they are now. But until people allow that to happen, human drivers will always be the wild card that causes most of the accidents. Unless Apple has found a way to mitigate that, autonomous cars will be an interesting technical experiment with limited real-world use.
Quickly 2025?
Consumer company - define consumer in the future - owning becomes more and more obsolete.
you can’t even buy many things anymore - only the right to use it!
 
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The first Apple Car that's released will not be designed to operate with a driver, according to a report from CNBC that cites multiple unnamed sources with knowledge of Apple's plans. "These will be autonomous, electric vehicles designed to operate without a driver and focused on the last mile," said one of the people.

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CNBC speculates that the initial Apple Cars could be designed for food delivery operations and firms that incorporate robotaxis. Self-driving robotaxis are available in China, and in the United States, companies like Waymo have tested public robotaxi programs. Many vehicle manufacturers working on autonomous technology are also planning for robotaxi services.

The tidbit about Apple's aim to produce a driverless car comes in a wider report that suggests Apple is close to finalizing an Apple Car deal with Hyundai affiliate Kia, which echoes several other reports suggesting a deal is brewing between Hyundai and Apple.

CNBC suggests that the Apple Car will be manufactured at the Kia assembly plant in West Point, Georgia under the terms of the agreement. No deal has yet been reached, however, and Apple could decide to work with another automaker entirely or choose a secondary partner to work with alongside Hyundai.

According to CNBC's sources, Apple has decided to pursue a partnership with Hyundai-Kia because the deal gives Apple access to an established automaker with the capability to produce vehicles in North America. Hyundai-Kia is also willing to give Apple control over both the Apple Car software and the hardware, with Apple planning for a full Apple-branded vehicle and not a Kia model that includes Apple software.

Hyundai-Kia executives believe that working with Apple will allow them to accelerate their own autonomous and electric vehicle plans.

Apple is said to be aiming to have the Apple Car in production in 2024, though it's possible that timeline will be delayed as work on the Apple Car is still in the early stages. Bloomberg recently said it would be five to seven years before an Apple Car is ready to launch, while Apple analyst Ming-Chu Kuo said this week that he expects to see the Apple Car in 2025 at the earliest.

Article Link: First Apple Car to Be Fully Autonomous and Designed to Operate Without a Driver
Zero Interest.
 
You joke but Tesla (and all hybrids for that matter) already do this (throttle) during charging and driving to preserve overall battery life. And yes there will be class action lawsuits in 2026 by people who cannot accept being kept in the dark about a technical subject they cannot possibly begin to understand.
Disgusting try to compare a standard feature with an ill minded over the air manipulation of millions of phones.
ofCourse battery management, also iPhone charging throttles or manages the loading process and discharging process.

but Tesla has never taken away your ability to use full acceleration in general!
 
I somewhat call BS on this. The US public are not ready for a driverless car just yet. On a survey I read the majority said they wouldn’t feel safe.

Manfred Harrer of Porsche chassis department has been hired by Apple. Apple aren’t going to hire one of the top (if not thee) chassis engineers in the world to design a car thats not supposed to be driven. Its not in the interests of either.

haha - i call bs on your Post.
The car comes 2025
Apple will not build a Race car but hopefully a very compelling fine designed one. Who’s better at that than Porsche!
Every Tesla well most of them are faster than current Porsche but every Porsche looks far better than any Tesla.
 
Bringing in top people from Porsche to design a car you can’t even drive seems such a waste of talent.

driving is fun, it’s not always a hassle!

also: self driving car on a snowy, winding, Swiss alps road? Going to take a while!! (Sometimes it’s hard to even see
where the road is..)

self driving cars in the heart of European cities? Going to take a while.

it’s the same as with the Tesla model S redesign.
All these cars are designed for clogged American highways.
Not sunny Tuscany hills where driving is fun. (And can’t be done with only half a steering wheel)
 
Disgusting try to compare a standard feature with an ill minded over the air manipulation of millions of phones.
ofCourse battery management, also iPhone charging throttles or manages the loading process and discharging process.

but Tesla has never taken away your ability to use full acceleration in general!
They do when you use autopilot and when the battery is too low to withstand extreme power drain in certain weather conditions and yes, when you want to go full throttle with only 1% capacity left. Do you think the car just suddenly dies without any warning? Have you ever driven a Tesla even?
 
Apple’s autonomous driving technology is at least 5 years behind Google, don’t expect much from it.
LOL. Apple is already fielding a fleet of autonomous cars every day and has been for several years now. Lots of miles under their belts.Got to get up on the news.
 
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Tim Cook is operating the project titan that isn't going to work very well. It took them 5 years to think about the supply chain for EV that yet to be determined.

You will likely be disappointed by the price and performance from the first generation of Apple EV. In the first few years, it won't be available for purchase due to low amount quantity.

Tesla will outgun Apple before it is able to capture 1% of market share in 2030.
 
I am very skeptical.

BUT, as someone who cannot drive, this would give me so much freedom and independence that I lack right now.
Oh, I'm sure it's the way we are headed... but initially - and particularly from the likes of Apple - the privilege will be limited to those with a lot of cash...
 
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