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I was in my local Apple Store yesterday and finally got to play with the Pencil. It's definitely needed for the new Photoshop app, where adjustment areas are so fine that a finger wouldn't really work. (That app is really amazing, BTW.)

For drawing, there was a noticeable lag when I moved the Pencil quickly. It isn't nearly as responsive as Apple claims. But when slowly sketching, it does feel very natural.

It is absolutely as responsive as Apple claims – try the Notes app or Procreate. It's just Adobe's implementation that's lacking.
 
I would love to go back to about 2000 and tell everyone '...and in 2015, Apple shall sell a pencil. And it shall cost $99!'.

With that in mind, I would like to say that in about 2030, Apple shall sell a piece of string. And it shall cost $500.

Seriously, what is the point of this other than trolling?
 



Though the iPad Pro has been widely available in Apple retail stores since its launch last Wednesday, supplies of the Apple Pencil and Smart Keyboard have been much more limited. At launch, there were no Apple Pencils or Smart Keyboards available for purchase in the U.S. with in-store pickup, and the first online orders listed delivery dates of November 19 at the earliest, more than a week after the iPad Pro became available.

As of today, pre-order customers with some of the earliest upcoming estimated delivery dates are seeing some movement with their orders, receiving notifications that their Apple Pencils are now preparing for shipment. MacRumors reader Jose's Apple Pencil is preparing to ship with an estimated delivery date of November 20 to November 24, and there are a few other reports of Apple Pencil shipment changes on Twitter.

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With orders already preparing for shipment, it's likely customers who managed to pre-order right around midnight on November 11 will start receiving their shipments later this week. A few customers in the United Kingdom have already received their Apple Pencil orders.

Customers who order an Apple Pencil online right now will not be able to receive the device until mid-to-late December, and the same goes for the Smart Keyboard, which is equally scarce. After the iPad Pro's midnight launch, delivery estimates for the Apple Pencil and the Smart Keyboard quickly slipped from late November into December.

Some Apple retail stores around the country have been receiving small Apple Pencil and Smart Keyboard shipments on a daily basis, but as Apple is not allowing in-store pickup for the Apple Pencil, it's not possible to use Apple's website or app to determine which stores have stock. Instead, customers hoping to get an Apple Pencil before December are having to visit their local Apple Stores on a daily basis hoping to get lucky with shipment timing.

The Apple Pencil, which enables pressure sensitive drawing on the iPad Pro, retails for $99. The Smart Keyboard is priced at $169.

Article Link: First Apple Pencil Orders in the U.S. Now 'Preparing for Shipment'
 
Mine just marked as shipped, will receive a day earlier on Nov. 19, std. 2-day shipping.
 
The thing is, Apple promotes the Pencil as an almost necessary peripheral like a keyboard or mouse/trackpad so why not include the Pencil with every iPad Pro the same way every iMac comes with a bluetooth keyboard and Magic Mouse?

I'm sorry but the Apple Pencil alone doesn't seem to justify the steep $99 price tag.
A replacement Wacom Stylus for their Cintiqs and other tablets is over $80. They own the patent on battery free active styluses, the Galaxy Notes, Surface Pro 1&2, and a bunch of other Tablet PCs license this tech... But only an older version that doesn't detect angle, and has a lesser amount of pressure sensitivity than their flagship tablets.

Apple had to build their pencil from scratch with brand new tech, which does require power, has a better footprint that the Wacom Pens, and really is only there for artists. So not including it with every iPad Pro makes sense.

Also while the Pencil by 53 is 40 dollars cheaper, it also won't be as accurate as Apples, plus doesn't detect angle.
 
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Seriously, what is the point of this other than trolling?

It was primarily a light-hearted way of saying $99 seems on the pricey side for a stylus. I don't doubt it's a very nice stylus, and I personally agree with Apple making it a separate accessory rather than adding cost to the iPad Pro, but still, there is something inherently funny to me that a product called 'pencil' costs $99.

Furthermore I was making the implicit point that as technology and our use of it develops, it's notable that we return to the basic essential forms and basic essential functionality of familiar items that have been around since before the digital age. I'm typing this on my iPad on a virtual keyboard, but it's based on the same layout a mechanical typewriter used. I think that is something worth thinking about, even if only briefly. And so my joke about a piece of string is, whilst mostly made jokingly, also contains a little germ of serious intent. Who is to say that in 15 years' time Apple won't introduce a tiny, string-like product that could do things we haven't even thought of. Maybe some kind of communication device, or health monitor, or flexible technology that you can tie or wrap anywhere for some kind of benefit...

Just because I chose to express my points condensed through an attempt at humour, it doesn't mean I'm not saying something equally valid as those not chosing to express their view through an attempt at humour.

So in my view I'm not trolling at all. Hope that answers your query. :)
 
it's twice the price of some stylii but once you use one you'll see the comparison is pointless as it is so great
 
I would love to go back to about 2000 and tell everyone '...and in 2015, Apple shall sell a pencil. And it shall cost $99!'.

With that in mind, I would like to say that in about 2030, Apple shall sell a piece of string. And it shall cost $500.
If Apple ever gets into smart fabrics, you are not that far off.
 
It is absolutely as responsive as Apple claims – try the Notes app or Procreate. It's just Adobe's implementation that's lacking.
Actually, I wasn't drawing with Photoshop; I was using Sketch. Maybe it's the implementation in that software but when I'd draw a simple swirl, the line would appear a few inches behind the Pencil. If I moved the Pencil slowly, the rendering would keep up. But for quick sketches, it was really laggy.
 
Seriously, what is the point of this other than trolling?
I think he's not trolling
It was primarily a light-hearted way of saying $99 seems on the pricey side for a stylus. I don't doubt it's a very nice stylus, and I personally agree with Apple making it a separate accessory rather than adding cost to the iPad Pro, but still, there is something inherently funny to me that a product called 'pencil' costs $99.

Furthermore I was making the implicit point that as technology and our use of it develops, it's notable that we return to the basic essential forms and basic essential functionality of familiar items that have been around since before the digital age. I'm typing this on my iPad on a virtual keyboard, but it's based on the same layout a mechanical typewriter used. I think that is something worth thinking about, even if only briefly. And so my joke about a piece of string is, whilst mostly made jokingly, also contains a little germ of serious intent. Who is to say that in 15 years' time Apple won't introduce a tiny, string-like product that could do things we haven't even thought of. Maybe some kind of communication device, or health monitor, or flexible technology that you can tie or wrap anywhere for some kind of benefit...

Just because I chose to express my points condensed through an attempt at humour, it doesn't mean I'm not saying something equally valid as those not chosing to express their view through an attempt at humour.

So in my view I'm not trolling at all. Hope that answers your query. :)
great reply, I'll add that 2000 was the time of iMac DV and Mac Os 9, something that some kids around here can't remember
 
Yeah, I agree. Absurd.

Well, considering that the stylus from the company 53 costs $60...um, the Apple Pencil isn't overpriced. Reviews are pretty unanimous that it's the best stylus ever made for a tablet for drawing. I think most people just hear the word "pencil" and have a knee jerk reaction.
 
yes, thays why i want Apple sales to decline. get them off their we can do anything we want high horse but it's just not happening

Isn't that just basic economics? They sell at a price people are willing to pay. It's not like they are the sole provider of medicine for sick people or something.

Unbelievable that people are willing to pay $100 for a go***mn stylus

Unbelievable that you think $100 is such a high price. The higher end 3rd party bluetooth styli for older iPads which work 1/2 as well are around $80 and up. And the tech in the Apple Pencil seems to be at least as "advanced" as any of those (and of course works better since the tablet itself was designed for it).
 
The pencil needs to be supported on all current iPads. Not just the pro. Not everyone wants to have to carry around a tabletop in order to draw.

I think that's why I hate apple pencil even more. There is no reason why apple couldn't have made it capatible with the ipad air 2. Useless pencil for a unnecessary tablet(ipad pro).
 
The thing is, Apple promotes the Pencil as an almost necessary peripheral like a keyboard or mouse/trackpad so why not include the Pencil with every iPad Pro the same way every iMac comes with a bluetooth keyboard and Magic Mouse?

I'm sorry but the Apple Pencil alone doesn't seem to justify the steep $99 price tag.

The Adonit Jot Touch, a Bluetooth Stylus that has nowhere near the performance of the Apple Pencil retails for $99. So I think the Apple Pencil is quite fairly priced considering the competition.


I think that's why I hate apple pencil even more. There is no reason why apple couldn't have made it capatible with the ipad air 2. Useless pencil for a unnecessary tablet(ipad pro).

I'd have loved one for my Air 2. But considering that it doesn't have the required screen technology it's understandable why it's not backwards compatible.
If they'd made it work with the old iPads it wouldn't be as responsive as it is.
 
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Actually, I wasn't drawing with Photoshop; I was using Sketch. Maybe it's the implementation in that software but when I'd draw a simple swirl, the line would appear a few inches behind the Pencil. If I moved the Pencil slowly, the rendering would keep up. But for quick sketches, it was really laggy.

Sketch is Adobe, too. And it is absolutely just their implementation. Do yourself a favor, go back and try the Pencil with the Notes app; huge difference.
 
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