First Foldable iPhone Design Details Revealed

[JTK Awesome]

I can’t wait for “Creasegate” “you’re folding it wrong” “here’s a free screen protector”

Today in Apple history: 'Antennagate' scandal hits its peak

The iPhone 4 suffered a major blow when a "Consumer Reports" review failed to recommend the new smartphone. "Antennagate" was real.

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[HouseLannister]

Components are not small enough for Face ID

They could be. However, you would need two, one for the outer screen and one for the inner screen. Or a combination of FaceID and TouchID on the same system, which may have a technical barrier in hardware or software that needs more development time than they have invested in this first gen.

Samsung has been doing facial recognition and fingerprint authorization for a long time, but the face stuff is just the camera and does not work in low light, so it relies solely on the fingerprint sensor for payment authorization and password stuff. But you can still use your face to unlock the device 80% of the time. I think that would be a fine compromise, but don't imagine Apple would think it is secure enough.

 

[Falco McGregor]

They could be. However, you would need two, one for the outer screen and one for the inner screen. Or a combination of FaceID and TouchID on the same system, which may have a technical barrier in hardware or software that needs more development time than they have invested in this first gen.

Samsung has been doing facial recognition and fingerprint authorization for a long time, but the face stuff is just the camera and does not work in low light, so it relies solely on the fingerprint sensor for payment authorization and password stuff. But you can still use your face to unlock the device 80% of the time. I think that would be a fine compromise, but don't imagine Apple would think it is secure enough.

^This. Apple is not going to spend the money nor the internal space to add the necessary two FaceID modules to make this work. TouchID makes more sense, even if it's the less elegant solution.

 

[iZac]

If they can give this an iPad style 'breakthrough price', say £1,300, then I would be interested.

Yes still expensive, but undercuts existing foldables and fits in with the ramp up from previous iPhones. Regular iPhone £800, Air £1000, Pro £1100, Fold £1300.

Sadly I can imagine them releasing this at £2000 then a year or two later releasing the newly rumoured flip phone at £1500 to fill in the rung of the 'ladder'

 

[IIGS User]

Just another article about someone who claims to know "something".

My sister's husband's cousin has a friend who's dating a girl with a cat, who's vet said they know things about stuff.

What's the cat's name?

I understand Apple wanting to get into the folding market. They will sell a ton of these I have no doubt. People are all ready drooling at the prospect.

It's not for me. I skipped this year's upgrade. Circumstances just dictated I came to the "party" late and by the time the next version is 8 months away, I didn't see the point in upgrading now.

The rumored camera and screen updates in the 18PM seem worthy of my time, but we shall see.

 

[jonnyb098]

I think I got pretty close! Might have to play around with the camera bump though.

Wow that’s some incredible work based on these leaks! Though it does make me wonder how big of a brick that thing would be in the pocket. Yikes.

 

[errepi]

>The volume buttons will be located on the top edge of the device, aligned to the right, similar to the iPad mini.

The iPad mini has the volume buttons aligned to the left, not the right.

 

[crees!]

Not gonna happen

 

[sw1tcher]

If they can give this an iPad style 'breakthrough price', say £1,300, then I would be interested.

Yes still expensive, but undercuts existing foldables...

Apple pricing a brand new device for less than what a competitors devices sell for? 🤣

When has that ever happened?

 

[KMTH]

dual camera will be a deal breaker, at least for me.

while the competition can cramp in 3 cameras, I'm a bit surprised Apple wouldn't, especially at this expected price point.

I would have expected them to learn from the lackluster Air sales... i can only assume people aren't communicating (as I did when I returned) that it's a deal breaker!! That, or they just keep their head in the sand and believe they know more than the customer -- as we must just be holding it wrong!

 

[Prof.]

TouchID has never worked for me, I’m hoping it’ll have FaceID otherwise I’ll have to stick with the Pro Max.

 

[stocklen]

If they can give this an iPad style 'breakthrough price', say £1,300, then I would be interested.

Yes still expensive, but undercuts existing foldables and fits in with the ramp up from previous iPhones. Regular iPhone £800, Air £1000, Pro £1100, Fold £1300.

you just know, though....
leaks and 100 repeated stories on rumour sites....
This is gong to be 'Apple expensive' and I dont seem them undercutting Samsung or other premium foldable at all - instead as usual it will be probably priced above anything weve seen so far.

Im expecting much closer to £2,000 if not more.

 

[iZac]

Wow that’s some incredible work based on these leaks! Though it does make me wonder how big of a brick that thing would be in the pocket. Yikes.

These renders have the outside screen at 5.49" but there is rumblings that it could be as small as 5.3" - 5.25" so it might be more manageable. It's likely to be quite short - somewhere inbetween an iPhone 4 and 5 - so I'm hoping it wont topple as much as a current day iPhone.

I've been waiting for some solid rumour consensus on the size before I re-render my concept.

 

[krakenrelease]

dual camera will be a deal breaker, at least for me.

while the competition can cramp in 3 cameras, I'm a bit surprised Apple wouldn't, especially at this expected price point.

It's not about the number of cameras. It's the quality of photos the lenses take.

 

[kalsta]

It would be nice if Apple had some consistency with the placement of volume and lock buttons on its various mobile devices.

Then again, I’m sure many of us would disagree on the ideal location. I’ve never liked the default placement on iPhones ever since they moved the lock button from the top to the right edge. (iPhone 6?) It might be handy when you want to take a screenshot—otherwise frustratingly easy to accidentally press. Yeah, we’re all used to it now, but still a poor design IMO.

 

[IGI2]

If they can give this an iPad style 'breakthrough price', say £1,300, then I would be interested.

Yes still expensive, but undercuts existing foldables and fits in with the ramp up from previous iPhones. Regular iPhone £800, Air £1000, Pro £1100, Fold £1300.

We're talking Apple here.

I'd like it to be true, but it will be closer to 1799 GBP sadly

 

[Sowelu]

Will Samsung really allow Apple to debut the first crease-free foldable display in their first foldable iPhone, or is Apple paying them for this exclusivity? Or, will Samsung ship a foldable with this crease-free display first? Or, is there even an actual crease-free display out there, or is there still a slight crease? A slight crease is still a crease and may be a dealbreaker for some.

 

[gaximus]

I like my iPhone Air, but the one most important thing I'm missing is the Telephoto lens. If the second camera on this is just a wide angle, then it does me no good. Also Touch ID makes the most sense, but I really really like FaceID, I use my phone way more often with gloves on, than I do with a mask on and no gloves.

 

[Cwoods]

I still find it highly unlikely there won’t be Face ID. Rivals have it so taking a step back is something very unApple like.

 

[No_comment]

If this monster is true, wait until people opened it up and closed it many times a day for some days and then they go back to a regular iPhone. Why can´t Apple just make a Mini for us who want a smaller iPhone and those Pro super size XL Extra ones for those who want bigger ones? This combo is not going to be good for anyone.

 

[gaximus]

Interesting if they actually manage to achieve a durable scratch resistant 'crease-free' display. I'm skeptical.

I personally don't like folding screens anyway. To me a phone is for accessing quick information in a compact discrete form factor. Having to unfold the damn thing every time you use it is just adding an annoying extra step. I don't like wallet cases for the same reason. I don't want my phone to be a mini tablet, even if it can fold up and fit in my pocket.

To be honest we are all stuck to our phones too much as it is. If Apple really cared about the world in the way they pretend to, they would invent 'methaphone' to treat the addiction and bring socialising back into fashion.

That's exactly how a foldable works, an outside screen that provides accessing quick information in a compact discrete form. Then if you need/want to have access to a much more immersive display to do actual work, open it and you're good to go. There are some people whose jobs will perfect for this.

 

[jole]

Interesting if they actually manage to achieve a durable scratch resistant 'crease-free' display. I'm skeptical.

In any foldable, the internal screen glass must be soft to allow bending. Thus it wont be scratch resistant.

That might be totally ok — scratches in a non-fordable phone are often created when people lay out the phone on a surface screen down and the phone slides a little bit. One would never need to do that with the internal screen: while small particles (sand) gathers there, it is not rubbed against the screen. Also, keys etc do not rub against the phone's internal screen when the phone is in pocket or purse.

 

[jole]

Volume buttons on the top with Power & Camera Control buttons on the right - but what about the Action Button? Surely that’s been much better received than the Camera Control?

Apple will want the buttons to stay on the same side of the phone regardless of whether the phone is open or closed. Thus everything must be on the right side. That will limit the placement options to right side top or the bottom of the right side (where the camera button is on iPhone Pro).

 

[NVDA]

Will it weigh more than the 17 Pro/Pro Max?

 

[kenta_]

No Face ID, no sale!

I’ll buy 2 then, just to make up for your lost sale.