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Why? The reason for the antenna gate on the iPhone 4 was because of where the two antennas were placed. If your hand bridged the gap between the two antennas, they canceled each other out. That was changed with the CDMA iPhone 4, and the iPhone 4S, which eliminated the problem.
I highly doubt that Apple did the same thing with the iPhone 12. I guarantee that they put the antenna lines in very specific places, that way there’s no way that any type of skin contact messes with connection.
As for the MMWave window on the side, it’s not an antenna. It’s a window. And you’re more likely to lose MMWave Signal by other forces like wind, rain, or distance than you are by your hand covering up the window.
Or a case covering it.
 
They really ought to have done a matte PVD steel band and back in navy blue. The pacific blue metallic accents look cheap.

I've had the same thoughts since the first leaks came out. It feels like plastic painted chrome, but I'll have to see it in person. I harken back to the iPhone 4s which had brushed stainless steel edges.
 
Is it me or are these first impression comments a little underwhelming? Maybe it’s because I’m sitting on the fence now between an 11 pro max for a 12 pro or 12 pro max
If you already have an 11Pro Max (as I do) just stay put. Unless you just GOT to have one of the photographic enhancements or something or HAVE to be able to download a bunch of gigs of data (on the right block in your city) stay with what you have.
 
But none of them mention...
5G what do you mean 5G there is no 5G unless she using an esim or sim on its own or you drop back the 4G i use duel Sim all the time one for a private number one for data so both are 5G compatible but you turn them on and you only get 4G in Australia on the Gold Coast we have 5G towers everywhere one right near my house 900mbps download and can’t use it if I’m turned on but it seems this is just a joke I spoke to a manager in an Apple Store Robina And she said no it doesn’t matter there’s not much 5G around anyway my friend doesn’t have any I thought well I don’t care what your friend has I’m worried about what I get 4G with two sims. Don’t get me wrong I love the phone the new 12 pro but the 5G situation with Apple is just an absolute 5G gate so much for the big whizbang testing area that they have for their antennas and stuff someone stuffed up somewhere real big.
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5G what do you mean 5G there is no 5G unless she using an esim or sim on its own or you drop back the 4G i use duel Sim all the time one for a private number one for data so both are 5G compatible but you turn them on and you only get 4G in Australia on the Gold Coast we have 5G towers everywhere one right near my house 900mbps download and can’t use it if I’m turned on but it seems this is just a joke I spoke to a manager in an Apple Store Robina And she said no it doesn’t matter there’s not much 5G around anyway my friend doesn’t have any I thought well I don’t care what your friend has I’m worried about what I get 4G with two sims. Don’t get me wrong I love the phone the new 12 pro but the 5G situation with Apple is just an absolute 5G gate so much for the big whizbang testing area that they have for their antennas and stuff someone stuffed up somewhere real big.
 
This is the first year out of the last 6 easy that I did not upgrade. My 11 Pro Max seriously does everything I could think of asking it to do. 5G means nothing to me given where I live. The new form factor looks nice, but I’ve never gone without a case for any of my phones; phones drop, and drops are bad. So once I wrap it in a Otterbox Commuter, it all looks the same.

For the first time in a long time, I’m sitting pat and I really don’t feel like I’m missing out on anything.
Yup. I have an 11ProMax also. I don't use the capabilities of it as is. It's also paid for. Upgrade? Why?
 
If you already have an 11Pro Max (as I do) just stay put. Unless you just GOT to have one of the photographic enhancements or something or HAVE to be able to download a bunch of gigs of data (on the right block in your city) stay with what you have.
Well I think you’re wrong I’ve got the 11 promax and I went for the 12 pro this time and I find it much better easy to handle nice in your hand able to type better clear screen put my Nana Apple care payment plan for just the 12 months case I break it will get it fixed then upgrade next year. Got $1000 trade in for mine so $699 for a phone I’m happy. My son got in early he got $1375 trading thank you mobile monster.
 
Well the pacific blue is absolutely beautiful. I feel bad putting the blue silicone case on it. However I don't trust improved dropp protection no matter if they state x100 😂

Also, it's snappy 😂

Upgraded from an XS.
 
It's not awful for most people, I have no problem with the Intel modem as with many others here.
I do think that the intel modem underperforms when you have low signal...where do you live you said...I've been long enough on MR to know that US networks suk big time.

The Intel modems aren't awful in a vacuum, but compared to the Qualcomm modems in older iPhones, they were a pretty big step down. When I upgraded from an iPhone 7 Plus with Qualcomm modem to an iPhone X with Intel modem, the reception in my apartment went from 4 bars to 2 bars, and I've had a ton of issues with GPS reception over the past few years.

If I set my iPhone X in my lap or in a cupholder while navigating in the car, the GPS will occasionally cause Apple or Google Maps to think I'm drifting off course, and I'll sometimes miss turns due to that. It has to be up high on the dashboard to get usable GPS reception. My wife's iPhone X is even worse... she can barely use navigation on her iPhone and typically just uses our car's built in navigation instead. I haven't seen such poor performing GPS since my original Galaxy S Captivate. None of my iPhones with Qualcomm modems would lose GPS signal as easily as the iPhone X.

Not only that, but with the iPhone 7, there was one model with a Qualcomm modem and one with an Intel modem, so it was easy to do direct comparisons, and a ton of websites ran tests that showed that even at the same signal level, the Qualcomm modem got faster speeds than the Intel modem. If I recall correctly, I believe Apple even disabled some capabilities of the Qualcomm modem in that phone just so that one iPhone model wouldn't be significantly better than the other, but the Qualcomm modem still outperformed the Intel one.
 
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I am in a fringe signal area in my apartment,

the general area is good but the building doesn't let ATT signal penetrate the walls all that well

curious how the QC X55 will compare to my SE2 that has the Intel radio
 
This afternoon I held the 12 and 11 non-Pro in each hand in a shop. The 12 is only a whisker smaller. Barely any difference and they talked that aspect up. Need I mention that the 12 is still definitely, firmly too big for me, even after having a XS for two years? But the flat edges do make it grippier. The 11 is like a bar of soap without a case on.

The flat front of the 12 also feels very solid and satisfying. The curved 11 is chunky and fat haha... The 11 also had bad display dimming near the top edges (hey, it's display stock) and the 12 was overall brighter and more vibrant. But the 12's bezels are thicker than I imagined. Oh well.

The 12 was blue. Not as vivid as I was hoping for but the other colours are lacking for me so I'll probably go with the blue for my mini.
 
I upgraded from an 11 Pro to the 12 Pro. From the apple comparison table, the speakers are supposed to be identical but the sound coming out of the 12 Pro seems, to my ear, extremely tinny in comparison to the 11Pro. Anyone else experiencing this?
 
Got my 12 pro 128gb graphite delivered today... Can't decide whether to open it or pass it to a friend (who didn't get one for release). I use an 11 Pro 256gb green so far.

The changes this year are so small that even as an Apple fan I think twice whether it is worth it.
 
To anyone who is concerned about the warmer display, this seems to be related to true tone. The display is warmer when true tone is enabled, but shows a proper white when disabled.
Here is a comparsion of my iPhone 7, iPhone XR and my iPhone 12 pro with true tone enabled:

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This is with true tone disabled on the iPhone 12 pro:
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With TT off, it still looks much worse than the XR next to it. Damn. Still crossing fingers.
 
The Intel modems aren't awful in a vacuum, but compared to the Qualcomm modems in older iPhones, they were a pretty big step down. When I upgraded from an iPhone 7 Plus with Qualcomm modem to an iPhone X with Intel modem, the reception in my apartment went from 4 bars to 2 bars, and I've had a ton of issues with GPS reception over the past few years.

If I set my iPhone X in my lap or in a cupholder while navigating in the car, the GPS will occasionally cause Apple or Google Maps to think I'm drifting off course, and I'll sometimes miss turns due to that. It has to be up high on the dashboard to get usable GPS reception. My wife's iPhone X is even worse... she can barely use navigation on her iPhone and typically just uses our car's built in navigation instead. I haven't seen such poor performing GPS since my original Galaxy S Captivate. None of my iPhones with Qualcomm modems would lose GPS signal as easily as the iPhone X.

Not only that, but with the iPhone 7, there was one model with a Qualcomm modem and one with an Intel modem, so it was easy to do direct comparisons, and a ton of websites ran tests that showed that even at the same signal level, the Qualcomm modem got faster speeds than the Intel modem. If I recall correctly, I believe Apple even disabled some capabilities of the Qualcomm modem in that phone just so that one iPhone model wouldn't be significantly better than the other, but the Qualcomm modem still outperformed the Intel one.

Why do you hear so many complaints from US iPhone with an Intel modem inside and not from many other places, I hear very few complaints here, as I said before, US carriers suck big time.

As far as I know the modem has little to do with GPS, I for one have no issues with it whatsoever.
 
You have to laugh at these people who can’t tell a difference between their phones especially after putting their butt ugly case on it.

Pics look same? Yellow screen? Battery sucks? Where’s my 5g and gigabit speeds? Omg my idiot MagSafe case doesn’t snap on magnetically?? But wait now I have an oversized watch charger for my phone that is much slower than usb charging. Sooo nice.
 
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Just received my iPhone 12 today as an upgrade from my iPhone 6.

The difference in quality with HDR 3 compared to the original HDR mode is unbelievable.
 
I went from the 11 Pro Max to the 12 cause I always felt the Max was a bit too big. With the flat sides on the 12 it almost feels similar in hand but with a smaller display. I'm not sure how I feel. :/
 
Just unboxed my 12 pro, Blue - Looks beautiful but is this bezel defective (right side bottom area)? Does anyone else have this defect where the plastic joiner pieces meet the stainless steel on the bezel? Perhaps I'm looking too closely, but I thought it was a scratch at first. Now, I think it could be just poor workmanship. Contemplating returning but I don't want to wait for a replacement to arrive.
 

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Well the pacific blue is absolutely beautiful. I feel bad putting the blue silicone case on it. However I don't trust improved dropp protection no matter if they state x100 😂

Also, it's snappy 😂

Upgraded from an XS.
Can you post a pic of the xs beside the 12 pro please? Thanks
 
apple geniuses have always told me that it's a bad idea to restore from backup onto a new phone, as you'd be transferring some of the bugs that you've accumulated on your old device. when i asked them if using the automatic setting setup(that has been available for a couple of years now) is safe from that or not, they couldn't give me a clear answer. anybody know this?..
 
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