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No one cares. 5G is going to be a thing in 3 years the earliest, until then its just marketing. Also, this Qualcomm chip inside is a powerhog. I'll wait this out as there is no point getting 5G now.
Same. I’m waiting this out until 2024 when Apple is rumored to release their first iPhones with Apple-built modems after acquiring Intel’s modem division. I’m sure these new Apple built modems will be way more power efficient than anything Qualcomm can provide to Apple...
 
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I know what you mean - I compared the specs on my X to the 12 pro and a lot of the major selling points aren’t that much better. The X (and thus the XS) were just such good phones that it’s hard to make significant improvements. I’ve had OLED and a similar quality screen for 3 years, good battery life, and a perfectly serviceable camera for regular users. 5G does matter to me because I probably won’t upgrade again for 3+ more years and I live in a major city where 5G coverage is growing. I probably wouldn’t even upgrade if my phone worked properly - I replaced it under AppleCare coverage about a year ago after cracking the back glass and the replacement has always had weird Bluetooth issues. Wouldn’t mind waiting for that more efficient X60 modem in the 2021 iPhone if I could.
 
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“iPhone 12 Pro has a warmer display than iPhone 11 Pro Max". Seems like people say this every year comparing to the previous device. 🤷‍♂️
Lol they do. And every year it’s false. Initial launch phones have a warmer tint. And then The good screens return in 6 weeks. Same since iphone 3g.
 
Another couple of reasons why I’m not upgrading:
  • I have the iPhone X. It still works perfectly fine and it is almost in mint condition. No cracks and just minor scratches due to wear and tear.
  • There is obviously no must-have feature, for me at least, that has convinced me to upgrade from the iPhone X to the 12. All of the upgraded features announced for the 12, compared to the X, seem minor to me.
  • I’m not that much into photography, so the camera improvements on the 12 versus the X, also don’t seem that
    significant.
  • 5G is, as everyone else here has already concluded, snake oil this year. You shouldn’t upgrade just because these phones have 5G.
So yeah, nice try Apple, I’m not upgrading my iPhone this year. Maybe next year?

Now, if instead Apple was talking about those rumored AS Macs? I’m hooked and I will be there day 1! 4 hours to a hypothetical double-digit battery life on a laptop? I’m in!
 
5G may or may not be worth it depending on where you live, but the Qualcomm radio is absolutely worth it. Cellular, Wi-Fi, and GPS reception and performance have been comparatively awful ever since Apple switched from Qualcomm to Intel.
 
Another couple of reasons why I’m not upgrading:
  • I have the iPhone X. It still works perfectly fine and it is almost in mint condition. No cracks and just minor scratches due to wear and tear.
  • There is obviously no must-have feature, for me at least, that has convinced me to upgrade from the iPhone X to the 12. All of the upgraded features announced for the 12, compared to the X, seem minor to me.
  • I’m not that much into photography, so the camera improvements on the 12 versus the X, also don’t seem that
    significant.
  • 5G is, as everyone else here has already concluded, snake oil this year. You shouldn’t upgrade just because these phones have 5G.
So yeah, nice try Apple, I’m not upgrading my iPhone this year. Maybe next year?

Now, if instead Apple was talking about those rumored AS Macs? I’m hooked and I will be there day 1! 4 hours to a hypothetical double-digit battery life on a laptop? I’m in!

To each their own, my friend. If I were in your shoes, it feels like the perfect time to upgrade from an X. The iPhone X was the first "new re-design" and stayed that way for the next 3 years. This iPhone 12 is also the first "new re-design" for likely the next 3 years. You'd get a new re-design for the outside, making it feel new. Plus, a better camera system, night mode camera, more ram, double the storage, a larger screen, magsafe tech, and 5G (even if you don't activate it, it's an upgrade)... I do wonder what else they can possibly improve upon that's more towards you. There will always be more efficient chips, modems, batteries, cameras, etc.. Considering the new outside casing, next year will be an even more incremental update.

Of course, this is me on an enthusiast website saying this. For those that want or need to make their phone as long as they can, the X is an awesome phone, and your plan to wait until 2024 (from your other posts) is doable. Cheers.
 
Pacific Blue remains absolutely stunning!

Uh oh, warmer displays... here we go...

Personally, I don’t think I will mind a warmer display (in reason). With increased time in front of monitors, I’ve purchased blue light blockers to avoid eye strain. Yes, I get up and walk around and look away. It’s still a cumulative affect over time.
I just turn true tone off. No harm done.
 
I’m looking forward to getting my Pro tomorrow, but not gonna lie, the “warmer” comments have me seriously worried. I’m hoping they had true-tone and night shift on. If not.....ugh.
 
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To each their own, my friend. If I were in your shoes, it feels like the perfect time to upgrade from an X. The iPhone X was the first "new re-design" and stayed that way for the next 3 years. This iPhone 12 is also the first "new re-design" for likely the next 3 years. You'd get a new re-design for the outside, making it feel new. Plus, a better camera system, night mode camera, more ram, double the storage, a larger screen, magsafe tech, and 5G (even if you don't activate it, it's an upgrade)... I do wonder what else they can possibly improve upon that's more towards you. There will always be more efficient chips, modems, batteries, cameras, etc.. Considering the new outside casing, next year will be an even more incremental update.

Of course, this is me on an enthusiast website saying this. For those that want or need to make their phone as long as they can, the X is an awesome phone, and your plan to wait until 2024 (from your other posts) is doable. Cheers.

you can be sure the design will be around minimum three years

I think the ‘big’ upgrade next year will be 120hz

the x60 modem and a15 efficiency will put it around on par battery life wise too not a quantum leap

maybe Touch ID embedded maybe not. Who knows that could be the following generation also. Maybe we could see Apple engineered radios two generations from now that delivery profound efficiency gains

I can’t imagine how bad battery would be with 120hz and a 5g modem and smaller battery this year. It was probably wise , all things added up

if neither of these interest you, what’s coming out tomorrow / today / the mini and max 3 weeks from now or what I suspect the following year might be best to skip the next 2 years. Maybe even 3 lol

that feels like a lifetime away. so just upgrade when YOU feel like it. Even if coming from top notch 11 pro’s (imo)
 
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I’m looking forward to getting my Pro tomorrow, but not gonna lie, the “warmer” comments have me seriously worried. I’m hoping they had true-tone and night shift on. If not.....ugh.
Some will be warm some won’t.
Happens every year.
If it doesn’t match what’s on display at apple stores, send it back! Don’t stand for this!
 
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It doesn't sound like anyone who has received their new iPhone 12 Pro has ANY High-Perf Apps to test out.

Both new "Pro" models have ~5.6 GB of DRAM !

That should make a BIG difference with certain apps !

Several opened apps on the background should suffice.

I have text input disappear on me on iPhone 11 Pro Max, when simply copying some name and phone number from whatsapp, while there are several apps open on the background🤦‍♂️
 
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It doesn't sound like anyone who has received their new iPhone 12 Pro has ANY High-Perf Apps to test out.

Both new "Pro" models have ~5.6 GB of DRAM !

That should make a BIG difference with certain apps !
It's a PHONE not a computer or even an iPad. What kind of "high performance" apps are there on a phone? And for what?
 
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Another couple of reasons why I’m not upgrading:
  • I have the iPhone X. It still works perfectly fine and it is almost in mint condition. No cracks and just minor scratches due to wear and tear.
  • There is obviously no must-have feature, for me at least, that has convinced me to upgrade from the iPhone X to the 12. All of the upgraded features announced for the 12, compared to the X, seem minor to me.
  • I’m not that much into photography, so the camera improvements on the 12 versus the X, also don’t seem that
    significant.
  • 5G is, as everyone else here has already concluded, snake oil this year. You shouldn’t upgrade just because these phones have 5G.
So yeah, nice try Apple, I’m not upgrading my iPhone this year. Maybe next year?

Now, if instead Apple was talking about those rumored AS Macs? I’m hooked and I will be there day 1! 4 hours to a hypothetical double-digit battery life on a laptop? I’m in!
yeah the main reasons to upgrade from the X is likely photography otherwise the x is still an amazing phone ! I’m pretty much going to get the 12 pro max for the photography reason alone
 
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Interesting that none of the early reviewers/“influencers”(gag) mentioned anything about warm displays. Well, none that I read or watched.
Reviewers get hand-picked non yellow screens every year. Apple display phones are also usually pristine examples. It’s the consumer that doesn’t compare they get screwed
 
Same. I’m waiting this out until 2024 when Apple is rumored to release their first iPhones with Apple-built modems after acquiring Intel’s modem division. I’m sure these new Apple built modems will be way more power efficient than anything Qualcomm can provide to Apple...

you should wait until 2025 just to be on the safe side
 
6:45 am in Austria ... most anticipated package arrives!
Haven’t opened it yet. Must davor when the kids are out of the house.
 
I don't want to hear another person here complaining that the U.S gets Apple stuff first. It's not even Friday here in the U.S in any time zone so other than a big YouTuber the rest of us in the U.S have to wait until tomorrow. SMH.

write a letter to Donnie. He’ll get time zones moves so US will be first 🤣
J/k ... just a few more hours. Hope the delivery guy doesn’t cock it up.
 
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