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First Impressions of Photos for OS X: 'Vast Improvement' Over iPhoto
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Take away the "complicated" stuff, and use iCloud...ya, that will make any software easier...
Maybe users just don't know how to use iPhoto.... That's my statement on everything
... and it usually works.
Apple's never really been that much towards video, and now the ditching the advanced stuff from photos too... What else can they do to makes things more basic .... ummmm...
Seriously, this why better software exists.... The company starts of great, then starts throwing away all those good features that makes photos worth having then suddenly, its reduces to a pile of rubble.
The same happened when Apple reduced the price of Final Cut by taking out all the video most Pro editors rely on.
Then Apple wonders why everyone left. and then tries to get their back.
There's always room for improvement, but Apple's just going round in circles.
Maybe users just don't know how to use iPhoto.... That's my statement on everything
... and it usually works.
Apple's never really been that much towards video, and now the ditching the advanced stuff from photos too... What else can they do to makes things more basic .... ummmm...
Seriously, this why better software exists.... The company starts of great, then starts throwing away all those good features that makes photos worth having then suddenly, its reduces to a pile of rubble.
The same happened when Apple reduced the price of Final Cut by taking out all the video most Pro editors rely on.
Then Apple wonders why everyone left. and then tries to get their back.
There's always room for improvement, but Apple's just going round in circles.
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Number of photos lost on home network: 0
Number of photos lost on icloud: somewhere over 50 possibly close to 100
Number of photos lost since moving to alternative cloud system: 0
I can see where he is coming from.
What happens to Aperture Adjustments?
Are Aperture adjustments non-destructively preserved after importing to Photos? For example, if a photo had +0.5 exposure in Aperture, will that show up the same way in Photos?
Following up, can further adjustment tweaks be made in Photos without having to "revert to original" and thereby losing other edits? For example, could I move the exposure from +0.50 to +1.00 while preserving other edits?
Finally, is there any way to view adjustments that were made in Aperture for which there is no equivalent in Photos (e.g. is there any way to tell that a photo had a polarizer brush applied to it in Aperture)?
Thanks!
Are Aperture adjustments non-destructively preserved after importing to Photos? For example, if a photo had +0.5 exposure in Aperture, will that show up the same way in Photos?
Following up, can further adjustment tweaks be made in Photos without having to "revert to original" and thereby losing other edits? For example, could I move the exposure from +0.50 to +1.00 while preserving other edits?
Finally, is there any way to view adjustments that were made in Aperture for which there is no equivalent in Photos (e.g. is there any way to tell that a photo had a polarizer brush applied to it in Aperture)?
Thanks!
Take away the "complicated" stuff, and use iCloud...ya, that will make any software easier...
Maybe users just don't know how to use iPhoto.... That's my statement on everything
... and it usually works.
Apple's never really been that much towards video, and now the ditching the advanced stuff from photos too... What else can they do to makes things more basic .... ummmm...
Seriously, this why better software exists.... The company starts of great, then starts throwing away all those good features that makes photos worth having then suddenly, its reduces to a pile of rubble.
The same happened when Apple reduced the price of Final Cut by taking out all the video most Pro editors rely on.
Then Apple wonders why everyone left. and then tries to get their back.
There's always room for improvement, but Apple's just going round in circles.
It has more photo editing options than iPhoto that I can see and does not require cloud storage
It's no aperture but you should read up on it before going postal
Yeah postal is the wrong state - nuking apple would be right for this joke they give us as replacement for Aperture...
Well....I have now seen The Future, and it's name is iPhoto. Doll it up....call it something different.....it just doesn't matter how much one tries to camouflage things....it is still nothing more than iPhoto.
What? You say you're an Aperture user? You need the power and the tools that you spent good hard-earned cash money on Aperture to get? Sorry...Apple has thrown you under the bus.
They've lost interest.....not only in Aperture (and iWeb, and 'Remote', and Classic iPods, and etc) ....but also in YOU and you're business altogether. These days....it seems Apple would be happy if everyone just shut up and bought cellphones and cutesy digital watches. (Never thought I would see the day when the '70's would be considered cool again)
Hello....Adobe....?
What? You say you're an Aperture user? You need the power and the tools that you spent good hard-earned cash money on Aperture to get? Sorry...Apple has thrown you under the bus.
They've lost interest.....not only in Aperture (and iWeb, and 'Remote', and Classic iPods, and etc) ....but also in YOU and you're business altogether. These days....it seems Apple would be happy if everyone just shut up and bought cellphones and cutesy digital watches. (Never thought I would see the day when the '70's would be considered cool again)
Hello....Adobe....?
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So how small do these low res photos become? I ask because I have a 16gb iPhone and while it would be awesome to access all my photos through the cloud, I won't do that if it'll take up several gb of space. I have maybe 15gb between iPhoto and the Pictures folder in Finder. I suppose I can leave the photos that are in the Pictures file where they are (they're old jpegs from my Canon point and shoot) and only transition the iPhoto library to Photos which is all smartphone photos from the last four years or so. My current workflow is to keep recent photos on my phone and offload older photos into iPhoto on my rMBP. If I make the switch to Photos and iCloud Photo Library for everything, the 20gb upgrade would probably cover me.
If iCloud was solid, I'd ideally like it to work where the cloud is the main place where photos are, and I can delete them off of my devices but keep them in the cloud. Sadly it doesn't work that way.
One question for everyone: has anyone figured out how to find the photo files in Finder? When using my rMBP I prefer to upload photos to Facebook via the fb website since Apple apps never carry over my custom fb privacy settings. I also occasionally need to insert a photo into an MS Word 2011 document.
In general I'll say that Photos looks like a good option for me as a casual iPhone photographer. iPhoto is pretty dated for iPhone syncing.
I'd also appreciate it if someone could answer this.
Also, above someone mentioned there are no RAW adjustments, is this true? Does this mean Photos handles raw adjustments the way that iPhoto did - where it would create a jpg after the first adjustment and continue to work off of that?
I guess I need to clarify what information I am looking for.
1. I'm in the field. I take photos that relate to business. Can I create a new album and on the fly upload those photos to that new album or to an album already created?
2. I don't want to view that album on my iPad if I don't want to or vice versa. Can I select which albums I want to see on any of my devices or is it a matter of it's either always on for all photos or always off for all photos in terms of uploading to and access for viewing photos on iCloud?
3. I have thousands of photos on my iMac. I don't need to put them all on the cloud for backup because I already us Flickr.com, Carbonite, and SuperDuper to back up my files three different ways. So if I have files I don't need to upload to iCloud will have be able to select those photos or maybe albums of photos to not upload and conversely select those photos and/or albums of photos I do want to upload so that any other device I might want to have access to them will then have such access?
Nah, I have only 10,000, and had around 8,000 when I bought the iMac. iPhoto has always been dog-slow here, I didn't need 30,000 photos for that, my Mac would have exploded...
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Okay, nice. I made a smart list that returns all the geolocalized pictures, and if I do command+A and command+I, it localizes them all at once on the same map.
At this point, the only issue I see is : the map in the inspector is too small.
Some folks say iTunes is really bad but never say WHY.
So, I'm asking, what's wrong with iTunes?
Finally started to mess around with the new Photo's app. Really seems to be ready for public release. Only been using it for a little while and already it feels second nature. Here is a photo I edited with it a little while ago...
Please enlighten me on why some people are making ignorant comments of the 'required' iCloud integration.
You have the option to enable iCloud Photo Library of not and you have the option to choose where your original copies go.
And why are so many people complaining on this thread . . . When they don't even have the app yet lol? I highly doubt all of us are developers and I don't think it is available for public beta users at this time. Plus the video didn't even explain everything that Photos can do.
I seen too many false accusations about Photos that it is obvious that everyone is trying to find ways to hate on it.
We have a funny forum community #
You have the option to enable iCloud Photo Library of not and you have the option to choose where your original copies go.
And why are so many people complaining on this thread . . . When they don't even have the app yet lol? I highly doubt all of us are developers and I don't think it is available for public beta users at this time. Plus the video didn't even explain everything that Photos can do.
I seen too many false accusations about Photos that it is obvious that everyone is trying to find ways to hate on it.
We have a funny forum community #
looking forward to it. i use iPhoto for organizing all my photos, and it's not really the best. looking forward to an improvement
Question about Photos
I have a question about Photos:
In iPhoto, you could cut and past pictures from one event to another event. You could even drag pictures and you could drop one event on top of another, merging the two events.
I have not found a way to do this in Photos - is it even possible?
Also - I have some 32000 photos in my library - if I would want to put those in iCloud I would need to buy at least 150GB of space... so not happening!
I have a question about Photos:
In iPhoto, you could cut and past pictures from one event to another event. You could even drag pictures and you could drop one event on top of another, merging the two events.
I have not found a way to do this in Photos - is it even possible?
Also - I have some 32000 photos in my library - if I would want to put those in iCloud I would need to buy at least 150GB of space... so not happening!
Mine has the following issue, I'd appreciate it if anyone else with these issues in the beta would reply:
connecting iPhone to Mac crashes photos
Available space on iPhone reporting bar in iTunes is wrong - it shows the entire uploaded cloud photos capacity and reports the iPhone as over capacity (I uploaded 25GB to iCloud photo library using the new photos app and iTunes now shows the iPhone as having 25GB of photos when in fact it only has 2.5GB of thumbnails)
Photos has now stopped uploading to iCloud for some reason when there are still over 26,000 photos to go.
Thanks
connecting iPhone to Mac crashes photos
Available space on iPhone reporting bar in iTunes is wrong - it shows the entire uploaded cloud photos capacity and reports the iPhone as over capacity (I uploaded 25GB to iCloud photo library using the new photos app and iTunes now shows the iPhone as having 25GB of photos when in fact it only has 2.5GB of thumbnails)
Photos has now stopped uploading to iCloud for some reason when there are still over 26,000 photos to go.
Thanks
I'm not sure its useless. Useless isn't defined as whether or not it can do specific things that a more pro user might want to use it for.
I've been looking forward to trying it for a while, as it has all felt a bit in limbo as its the last piece of the jigsaw that should truly allow proper syncing across all devices and the cloud. Which is a good thing I think, as it was a bit messy before with different photos on each device. You had to make a reasonable amount of effort to keep things organised before with the Photostream limit and having to manually move photos around if you wanted to keep them on a particular device.
So that's definitely a big plus.
Whilst obviously if you are a pro user who relies on Aperture, I think some of the criticism is a little unfair on a few grounds:
1. You do still have Aperture - it hasn't suddenly stopped doing all the things it currently does.
2. The talk about Photos being a toy for iPhone / Facebook / selfie kids etc. I don't think that's fair - not something I would describe myself as, and I think Photos has a fairly good selection of editing options that should satisfy most people who are not pros. It seems a bit simplistic to reduce it to:
Professional tools for Pros
Toys for iPhone / Facebook / selfie kids
There's a big area between those two extremes, and Photos will likely be fine for anyone other than those at one of those extremes.
3. If FCP is anything to go by, it will gain features back as time goes on. As long as Aperture is still available, doesn't it make sense to make Photos available as soon as it is ready, rather than wait until it is on a par with Aperture?
If you prefer Aperture for its more pro tools, use that.
If you prefer Photos for its syncing, use that.
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Probably for the same reason so many people freaked out about Adobe's Creative Cloud, about how stupid it was that you wouldn't be able to edit files if you didn't have an internet connection.
I've been looking forward to trying it for a while, as it has all felt a bit in limbo as its the last piece of the jigsaw that should truly allow proper syncing across all devices and the cloud. Which is a good thing I think, as it was a bit messy before with different photos on each device. You had to make a reasonable amount of effort to keep things organised before with the Photostream limit and having to manually move photos around if you wanted to keep them on a particular device.
So that's definitely a big plus.
Whilst obviously if you are a pro user who relies on Aperture, I think some of the criticism is a little unfair on a few grounds:
1. You do still have Aperture - it hasn't suddenly stopped doing all the things it currently does.
2. The talk about Photos being a toy for iPhone / Facebook / selfie kids etc. I don't think that's fair - not something I would describe myself as, and I think Photos has a fairly good selection of editing options that should satisfy most people who are not pros. It seems a bit simplistic to reduce it to:
Professional tools for Pros
Toys for iPhone / Facebook / selfie kids
There's a big area between those two extremes, and Photos will likely be fine for anyone other than those at one of those extremes.
3. If FCP is anything to go by, it will gain features back as time goes on. As long as Aperture is still available, doesn't it make sense to make Photos available as soon as it is ready, rather than wait until it is on a par with Aperture?
If you prefer Aperture for its more pro tools, use that.
If you prefer Photos for its syncing, use that.
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Probably for the same reason so many people freaked out about Adobe's Creative Cloud, about how stupid it was that you wouldn't be able to edit files if you didn't have an internet connection.
The problem is I, and many others, don't believe Apple anymore. We got shafted with iWork that still is a bad joke compared with the old iWork and now this primitive iPhoto replacement. It *WON'T* get back to Aperture-power. I'm honestly fearing the day when they shaft Logic..
I was long one to criticize the doomsayers but honest: Photos is no replacement, not even for iPhoto - Its bleeding junk, kinda like on iOS: from nice iPhoto to the Photos-Junk of iOS8...
I was long one to criticize the doomsayers but honest: Photos is no replacement, not even for iPhoto - Its bleeding junk, kinda like on iOS: from nice iPhoto to the Photos-Junk of iOS8...
This is why a number of us ex-aperture owners have switched to another projects. I long feared that when when Apple made it official that Aperture was going to be replaced, its replacement would be devoid any any real functionality. Lo and behold the beta currently is devoid of a lot of Aperture functionality.
There's some things I like in Photos, but Lightroom is a more robust product and better serves the segment of users who want more ability then just sharing their images to their phone and social sites. Plus Adobe's track record is a heck of a lot better, in terms of supporting and improving the LR.
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referenced photos mean you store the images outside of a library. You can house them anyway, your local drive, a DAS etc. The metadata for each photo and its edits are stored in the library not the images.
This is hour LightRoom works, this is how Aperture can work, and I believe iPhoto has this option as well.
there isn't one. It goes
Beta release
official release
complain official release is still BETA
repeat
Is there really that much you can't do in Photos that you can in iPhoto?
(I realise this may be a bit like asking What the Romans did for us? in Life of Brian, but hey.)
Yeah I switched to Lightroom as well, but I don't get happy with the sucky results it produces for my NEFs. I'm currently researching the osx raw infrastructure to develop an own SemiPro/Pro photo managment app.
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It's more that it doesn't even provide all of the already tiny feature-set of iPhoto. Aperture has defined this whole application family and we get THAT as a replacement?