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I just bought a 13" MBP from Amazon on Black Friday. It is supposed to arrive here today. I am not very tech savvy by any means so can somebody tell me what I would be missing out on by keeping this current MBP vs. having it sent back and waiting until January for this updated version? If I do not do any video editing or heavy photo work on the computer, would I even notice the difference? This will be my first mac and I want to make sure I am not kicking myself a few months from now by keeping this current one and not waiting.

Thanks in advance for helping out this mac-newb
 
Any verification from Apple that it will be new CPU's in MBP in january? I thinking to buy one 13 inch MBP but not sure it will be the new cpu's in them, not sure I want to wait 1 month:p
 
I just bought a 13" MBP from Amazon on Black Friday. It is supposed to arrive here today. I am not very tech savvy by any means so can somebody tell me what I would be missing out on by keeping this current MBP vs. having it sent back and waiting until January for this updated version? If I do not do any video editing or heavy photo work on the computer, would I even notice the difference? This will be my first mac and I want to make sure I am not kicking myself a few months from now by keeping this current one and not waiting.

Thanks in advance for helping out this mac-newb


You will not notice any difference. The only people that will really notice any real world difference will be people who do heavy encoding.

Just open up your computer use it and enjoy it. If you keep decide to send it back and wait for the next update, you'll just always keep waiting.
 
Any verification from Apple that it will be new CPU's in MBP in january? I thinking to buy one 13 inch MBP but not sure it will be the new cpu's in them, not sure I want to wait 1 month:p

No, its all just speculation and conjecture.

The best advice you can follow is if you need a computer now, buy it. If you don't, don't.
 
Any verification from Apple that it will be new CPU's in MBP in january? I thinking to buy one 13 inch MBP but not sure it will be the new cpu's in them, not sure I want to wait 1 month:p

I see that you've just joined, so you might not be familiar with Apple's product moves.

Apple is very, very secretive about new products - so no, Apple would never confirm any new models in January.

Even though we know Intel is releasing new parts, that doesn't guarantee that Apple will announce new models then. Apple has ranged from introducing new models shortly before the rest of the Intel computer makers, to releasing them months after the other vendors are shipping the new Intel chips.

Also note that when Intel says "available" it sometimes means that "we've shipped handfuls of production chips to our suppliers. Sometimes Apple has waited until production from Intel has ramped up so that Apple could have systems ready for delivery. (This is less of a problem for other companies, since they'll usually overlap and sell the older models as well as the newer ones for some time. Apple has a more drastic model - when a new MBP comes out the old ones are off the shelves, banished to the refurb store.)

The odds are pretty good that by the end of March Apple will be using the new chips.

As always, the best advice is "If you need a computer now - buy it. If you can wait, then wait since something better will always come along."
 
You will not notice any difference. The only people that will really notice any real world difference will be people who do heavy encoding.

Just open up your computer use it and enjoy it. If you keep decide to send it back and wait for the next update, you'll just always keep waiting.


thanks for the advice. i guess chasing down the latest and greatest is a never ending chase :). nice to know that I most likely wouldn't notice the difference. Since my last post, my MPB arrived at my work and it is sitting here boxed up screaming to be opened :p.
 
thanks for the advice. i guess chasing down the latest and greatest is a never ending chase :). nice to know that I most likely wouldn't notice the difference. Since my last post, my MPB arrived at my work and it is sitting here boxed up screaming to be opened :p.

No problem. Really the best thing you can do is not get caught up in the latest and greatest thing. (i'll admit i'm guilty of it myself).

When it comes to upcoming technology sometimes ignorance is bliss. I know a lot of people who use and love macs and could care less about how many processor cores they have or when "arrandale" is coming out. Their computer works perfectly fine for what they do with it and their happy with it.

I honestly envy that!
 
I will be running Photoshop and video editing in small form mostly photo editing at hoem at my 22" monitor. And some music recordign software also on an external monitor, and then hae it as a trvel editor for when photo editing on the field
 
Heat?

Sorry if this has already been answered. Looking at the MBP 13, will the new chips make them run "cooler". I've read on various threads about the heat being unbearable at times for use in your lap. I don't care as much about the speed so if the "heat" is the same then I would probably purchase one now. Thanks
 
so does this mean new mbp in jan? i sure hope so - im hanging to buy one soon. still cant decide what size though - it sure is nice having a 17" screen, but those little 13" are so easy to carry...

im excited to really test out snow leopard too! im back in the dark ages
 
I just bought a 13" MBP from Amazon on Black Friday. It is supposed to arrive here today. I am not very tech savvy by any means so can somebody tell me what I would be missing out on by keeping this current MBP vs. having it sent back and waiting until January for this updated version? If I do not do any video editing or heavy photo work on the computer, would I even notice the difference? This will be my first mac and I want to make sure I am not kicking myself a few months from now by keeping this current one and not waiting.

Thanks in advance for helping out this mac-newb


The current chips are 45 Namometer circuits and the new ones are 32. It is a whole new generation that until last year wasn't supposed to arrive until
2011 or 2012. And intel is adding a lot of new instructions and new graphics capability
 
I bought a macbook pro 13 just a few weeks ago and I love it :), but I am really annoyed that a much better processor is coming out so soon after. Why couldn't it have come out before I bought mine or why couldn't my old laptop have lasted a bit longer :mad:. Too late to return my macbook so i'll just have to put up with it being out of date soon :(.
Don't worry and enjoy your notebook. The current MBPs are still good and if you want to get a real performance boost: Get a (good) SSD drive.
These days, CPU speed only really comes to play when doing heavy number-crunching, like 2d/3d-rendering oder video encoding.

And next time before you buy a notebook, have a look at https://buyersguide.macrumors.com// first. ;)


The current chips are 45 Namometer circuits and the new ones are 32. It is a whole new generation that until last year wasn't supposed to arrive until
2011 or 2012. And intel is adding a lot of new instructions and new graphics capability
Yeah, but to put it simply: Intel's graphics chips still suck. Of course they improve from generation to generation, sort of, but nVidia and AMD/ATI are still miles ahead. Maybe the "next-generation" chip bundled with Arrandale will finally be able to keep up with the, more than a year old, 9400M but I wouldn't expect much more.
 
well i hope this does happen. will these be quad-core?

No, they're dual-core.

Don't expect quad-core and great battery life (especially if you're actually putting a CPU load on the laptop).

Dual core will be the better choice for most laptop users - the power users who are usually near a power outlet are the quad-core audience.
 
I'm hoping Apple starts putting Blu-Ray drives into macs soon. I don't particularly care about movies (although downloading them just doesn't work) but what I do care about is software on Blu-Ray. It won't be long and a lot of software will be 10+ GB, and just won't fit on a DVD. Then, like the DVD, stuff other than movies will creep onto Blu-Ray. A burner would be great, but might be pushing what we can expect from Apple for a year or two yet.

I think some people should respect the fact that this is an apple forum and a lot of people find it very annoying to have some pitch about windows crapware shoved down their throats were they least expected.

YOU ALL KNOW NOTHING WINDOWS IS THE BEST MAC"S BLOW OSX SUX WINDOWS DOES EVERYTHING MAC"S DO NOTHING (Breathe) GAMEZ DONT RUN I BUILD PC BETTER THAN MAC PRO FOR 200 BUCKS I HATE MAC!!@!11!!! (Breathe)

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

(Clearly missed with first shot, so shoots self again)

ADDITIONAL (Having missed again): I'm thinking how cool it would be (with realisation chance of zero) if Apple gave us the option of having the CPU workhorse MBP (with a reasonable 4670ish GPU, and quad core CPU) and gaming MBP (with a reasonable dual core CPU, and a much better 4830ish GPU).
 
I'm thinking how cool it would be (with realisation chance of zero) if Apple gave us the option of having the CPU workhorse MBP (with a reasonable 4670ish GPU, and quad core CPU) and gaming MBP (with a reasonable dual core CPU, and a much better 4830ish GPU).

It would be cool - but it couldn't be called a "MacBook Pro".

Apple doesn't have any system in the "desktop replacement"/"mobile workstation" area - systems that look like laptops, but thin/lightweight/battery-life aren't as important as powerful/multiple-spindle/ports/expansion.

Real pros (as opposed to "Starbucks Pros") would snap these systems up. Now, they're going to HP and Dell for portable workstations.

While The Steve is in charge, though, it probably won't happen....
 
It would be cool - but it couldn't be called a "MacBook Pro".

Apple doesn't have any system in the "desktop replacement"/"mobile workstation" area - systems that look like laptops, but thin/lightweight/battery-life aren't as important as powerful/multiple-spindle/ports/expansion.

Real pros (as opposed to "Starbucks Pros") would snap these systems up. Now, they're going to HP and Dell for portable workstations.

While The Steve is in charge, though, it probably won't happen....
Dell took their time to update the Precision mobile line with the M6500. I know a few people that really want a mobile workstation with tons of RAM and dual hard drives.

Dell has set a new benchmark by offering the Core i7-720QM at the entry level price of $999 on the Studio 15 and $1099 on the Studio 17.
 
Dell has set a new benchmark by offering the Core i7-720QM at the entry level price of $999 on the Studio 15 and $1099 on the Studio 17.

So, for $100 less than the entry MacBook Pro you get:

  • Intel® Core™ i7-720QM Quad Core Processor @ 1.6GHz (2.8GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache) instead of 2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
  • 17.3" screen instead of 13" screen
  • 4 GiB RAM instead of 2 GiB RAM
  • 250 GB disk instead of 160 GB
  • Option for Blu-ray vs no Blu-ray option

Clearly the MacRumors Forum Bullies are right when they say that there's no "Apple Tax". :rolleyes:
 
So, for $100 less than the entry MacBook Pro you get:

  • Intel® Core™ i7-720QM Quad Core Processor @ 1.6GHz (2.8GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache) instead of 2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
  • 17.3" screen instead of 13" screen
  • 4 GiB RAM instead of 2 GiB RAM
  • 250 GB disk instead of 160 GB
  • Option for Blu-ray vs no Blu-ray option

Clearly the MacRumors Forum Bullies are right when they say that there's no "Apple Tax". :rolleyes:
I know I've said this a lot but Apple's 13.3" notebooks are their best value for the hardware. Sacrifices are made on the 15" and 17" MacBook Pro.
 
So, for $100 less than the entry MacBook Pro you get:

  • Intel® Core™ i7-720QM Quad Core Processor @ 1.6GHz (2.8GHz Turbo Mode, 6MB Cache) instead of 2.26GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
  • 17.3" screen instead of 13" screen
  • 4 GiB RAM instead of 2 GiB RAM
  • 250 GB disk instead of 160 GB
  • Option for Blu-ray vs no Blu-ray option

Clearly the MacRumors Forum Bullies are right when they say that there's no "Apple Tax". :rolleyes:

I like you Aiden but c'mon! What does screen size and a Blu-Ray option have to do with anything? I'll give you the rest but the whole Mac vs. PC thing is so tired. People will buy what suits them. I could argue better better battery life and better suite of software also but the point is moot. There is more to that debate than surface-level stats.

The only thing I care about is what kind of graphics they have (particularly the 13" MBP). They can't go back to using only Intel integrated graphics. I may just buy a Windows laptop if that is the case.
 
The only thing I care about is what kind of graphics they have (particularly the 13" MBP). They can't go back to using only Intel integrated graphics. I may just buy a Windows laptop if that is the case.
We've been going on about the post-MCP79A solutions for months now. We'll just have to wait.
 
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