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Its Christmas !!!? Where Can I Get A Macbook Pro Online Shipped To Sydney(australia) Anyone Kno A Good Site That Offers Cheaper Than Rrp And Maybe Even Freebies Like The Hp Printer And Fusion On Macconnections.com??????????? Help!!!

Just a thought, but perhaps you might want to start by trying one of the numerous online Australian Macbook Pro retailers that entering "Macbook Pro" into www.google.com.au throws up in 0.11 seconds? Last friday you could even have got one cheaper than RRP from the little-known http://store.apple.com/au, though not sure how trustworthy they are...

Anyway, glad to help.
 
Any chance of one these babies end up in the Mac Mini? At least as a BTO option? Or does the nVidia card makes this an impossibility? If they have to redesign the inside of the Mini with the new socket/motherboard, we're gonna be waiting for a while as it is probably not a top priority in Cupertino...

I think the Mini would have really lost its way if it did. Apple offer the Mini as a entry-spec model and will want to keep it in its place. I know you said a BTO option, but personally I don't see it happening as, like you say, it would be a whole new physical architecture for a BTO option. I don't think these will show in the Mini until they (or whatever else the market brings) have become the de facto CPUs of the day, and knowing Apple it will still take a while after that ;)
 
Why don't you just go over to that jokers site engadget and post man if you think the current nvidia line up in macbooks are a joke. I am sure you ll find a lot of like minded folk there to commiserate.

But please stop busting our balls here, this is an apple forum, if you think apple make joke products, then get out.

Yes, how DARE you criticise Apple on these forums!

Everyone knows that Apple's graphics cards are all cutting edge products and worth every penny we pay for them.
 
Please don't crucify me if this is a stupid question.

If the processors themselves are due January 3rd, is it correct to assume that there will then be a delay whilst apple integrates them into updated MBPs? And if so, any guesstimates as to how long this will take? I'm looking to buy a 15" MBP as powerful as poss and was not blessed with much patience. Well, any.

Thanks to anyone for your answer.
 
Please don't crucify me if this is a stupid question.

If the processors themselves are due January 3rd, is it correct to assume that there will then be a delay whilst apple integrates them into updated MBPs? And if so, any guesstimates as to how long this will take? I'm looking to buy a 15" MBP as powerful as poss and was not blessed with much patience. Well, any.

Thanks to anyone for your answer.

Not necessarily, Apple have previously brought Macs to market with new CPUs even before the CPU's official release.
 
Yes, how DARE you criticise Apple on these forums!

Everyone knows that Apple's graphics cards are all cutting edge products and worth every penny we pay for them.

The irony was uncalled for.

It's one thing to criticise apple, and another to make grating ball busting comments about what "joke" gfx cards apple uses.

It's an apple's fans forum of course this is not appreciated. And this guy makes constant comments such as this.

I wonder if I go to a dell forum and go oh the joke products you sell how people are going to react.

Well I was just now reading that the forum member in the dell forums who reported a fatal black screen of death with recent laptops in hundreds throttling down to 5% got banned asap.

The moderating here it's far too lenient but that doesn't mean anyone can come up and constantly trash talk about apple.

And guess what if you think the products are not worth every penny you spend on them don't buy them, grow up and stop being co-dependent, Steve Jobs didn't come to your house with a gun an forced you to buy, if you did buy something then it better deserve every penny you paid for it otherwise buy something else, in any case the joke's on you if you consider you are being taken for a ride and still voluntarily pay apple.
 
Apple fanboy strikes back - oh, please!

Why don't you just go over to that jokers site engadget and post man if you think the current nvidia line up in macbooks are a joke. I am sure you ll find a lot of like minded folk there to commiserate.

But please stop busting our balls here, this is an apple forum, if you think apple make joke products, then get out.

May I suggest that YOU get out and start your own "www.absoluteandunconditionalapplefanboy.com", where you can 'co-admire' whatever Apple gives you. Meanwhile, I, who spent over $15.000 on Apple computers over the years, maintain the right to complain. Especially, when some of these computers really suck. Actually, I wouldn't mind buying any third-party hardware. But software ties me to OS X. So, it's not really a free choice, is it? Or suddenly, Psystar has legitimacy?
 
May I suggest that YOU get out and start your own "www.absoluteandunconditionalapplefanboy.com", where you can 'co-admire' whatever Apple gives you. Meanwhile, I, who spent over $15.000 on Apple computers over the years, maintain the right to complain. Especially, when some of these computers really suck. Actually, I wouldn't mind buying any third-party hardware. But software ties me to OS X. So, it's not really a free choice, is it? Or suddenly, Psystar has legitimacy?

How old are you, 10? It's there software it's up to them to give you "choice" or not, that's there business model. For the time being they have chosen that they didn't spent 30 years developing their os for you to use it with a dell. Period. End of story.

For crying out loud, the amount of entitlement people have...

Complaining is also a right in as much as it's not grating and obnoxious to others. Calling apple's products jokes is obnoxious in an apple forum.
 
Looks like there will be no improvement in battery life over the current MBP line. The TDP of 35 watts+ on the i5 or i7 processors plus whatever TDP is produced by the new dedicated GPUs will mean that battery life will not improve unless Apple comes up with some new clever way to pack more watts in the same size or smaller battery.

I would hardly call a dual core Arrandale a ground breaking performance increase as it may be about 30% faster at 2.66Ghz compared to the current high end 3.06 GHZ C2D offering in MBP.

Quad core on the other hand would be amazing but not if it means piss poor battery life and a macbook that can double as a hotplate!! At 45-55 watt TDP for the Quad core Apple could have stuck a G5 in there!!:rolleyes: Also a dedicated GPU that is much better than the 9600M would be very welcome however maintaining TDP and battery life becomes more difficult to maintain in conjunction with a quad core. Unless Apple has some trick up its sleeve I still wont be able to have my cake and eat it.

I also want too see a 1680x1050 resolution on the 15" MBP and at least the option to forgo the optical drive in favor of a second HD or extended battery.
 
How old are you, 10? It's there software it's up to them to give you "choice" or not, that's there business model. For the time being they have chosen that they didn't spent 30 years developing their os for you to use it with a dell. Period. End of story.

For crying out loud, the amount of entitlement people have...

I tell you something - I cannot be ten, as I've had my first Mac over a decade ago. But I must say that when I was ten years old - even as English is not my first language - I was able to distinguish between "their" and "there".

I love your sharp style of argument: "Period. End of story". Are you one of those British 'lads', who grew up on pub quizzes and never had the exposure to proper logic?

About the 30 years... I don't know what you are talking about... The same applies to your theory of 'business model' as giving people a choice. Although, with a bachelor law degree and a management masters, I should know.
 
Complaining is also a right in as much as it's not grating and obnoxious to others. Calling apple's products jokes is obnoxious in an apple forum.

But he didn't call Apple's products a joke - he was referring to NVidia's dated graphics cards. A lot of long-time users on here regularly complain that Apple offer top-rate computers with graphics cards that, by comparison, are a joke.

Is that OK?
 
But he didn't call Apple's products a joke - he was referring to NVidia's graphics cards. A lot of long-time users on here regularly complain that Apple offer top-rate computers with graphics cards that, by comparison, are a joke.

Is that OK?

What alternatives would you suggest for the integrated nvidia gfx which are supposed to be jokes? Are there much better alternatives available? Because at least when the nvidia option was launched it was an excellent choice, now if they have been superseded recently I am not aware of that.

In any case the problem is with the dismissive tone, and using words like a "joke", and $50 "bargain bin", and the whole attitude....

Anyway some comments are grating to some people, I might not be for you, but it is for me.
 
What alternatives would you suggest for the integrated nvidia gfx which are supposed to be jokes? Are there much better alternatives available? Because at least when the nvidia option was launched it was an excellent choice, now if they have been superseded recently I am not aware of that.

In any case the problem is with the dismissive tone, and using words like a "joke", and $50 "bargain bin", and the whole attitude....

Anyway some comments are grating to some people, I might not be for you, but it is for me.

You should be asking the person who originally made the comment, not me.

Believe me, if that original comment riled you then you're going to very quickly come to hate these forums; that was nothing.
 
what I would Like to see

MacBook Pro 13" Standard - Pretty much as it is now

Macbook Pro 13" Battery - remove the Optical Drive and Add an extended Battery

Macbook Pro 13" Gfx - remove the optical drive and replace with a kick ass gfx card

Macbook Pro 13" Storage - 2 Hardrives/ SSD's

The one issue I have always had with apple is Options.
 
You should be asking the person who originally made the comment, not me.

Believe me, if that original comment riled you then you're going to very quickly come to hate these forums; that was nothing.

haha, that's true, I tried to contain myself to some of the sub forums which have much more interesting and constructive discussions going on, but I couldn't help it going in this thread, should have known better. :)

Anyway to get back to something more interesting, let me repeat my question.

Do these intel igfx actually support open cl? If they don't I wonder what apple will do to work around this. Because I don't think they do, and what is the point in bringing on a new tec in snow leopard if the hardware doesn't support it...
 
omggg i was gona get a Macbook pro 13 inch for christmas ... rethinking it now , so anyway i saw this post "macconnection.com" is it trustworthy site? and i live in australia not sure if they ship here? can sumone help me? anyone kno a site wher i can get a cheap macbook pro wif mad offers like the free printer and freee fusion on macconnections
, but can ship to australia

Learn to spell.
 
I'll but it. Give us no optical drive and two hdd bays or a thinner laptop and I'm sold. Maybe even dual GPUs in 13" with an upgraded GPU anyway

If I can use the 2nd HDD bay for an extra battery, then I'm in.
 
how is the power management in these chips? eg could you get a quad core processor in there, but shut down two of the cores when on battery power to give longer life? Then the full quad cores either on AC power or if you manually select it.
 
How old are you, 10? It's there software it's up to them to give you "choice" or not, that's there business model. For the time being they have chosen that they didn't spent 30 years developing their os for you to use it with a dell. Period. End of story.

For crying out loud, the amount of entitlement people have...

Complaining is also a right in as much as it's not grating and obnoxious to others. Calling apple's products jokes is obnoxious in an apple forum.

who is complaining?
 
I don't understand why there are so many people that get angry if someone points out that the GPUs of the MBPs are quite old.. when they appeared on the 17" MBPs for the first time, other high-end 17" laptops were already using better GPUs, so even if you are an apple-fan-boy there is no need to get angry... it's also time for a GPU update now..
 
Do these intel igfx actually support open cl? If they don't I wonder what apple will do to work around this. Because I don't think they do, and what is the point in bringing on a new tec in snow leopard if the hardware doesn't support it...

Although I don't know for sure, I would guess that Intel graphics does not support OpenCL, or anything fancy, really. However, I would suggest that this is completely irrelevant, because Apple will almost certainly pair discrete graphics solutions to all of its notebooks.

Apple already has a 9400M in all their notebooks, and they can't go backwards. So the no-good-GPU models that had the single 9400 get something better (AMD 4300ish, maybe 4500ish?), where as the decent-GPU models get a 4600ish. (Hopefully equivalent 5X00's, but that seems unlikely)

These cards I expect will be used either completely bypassing the Intel GPU (disabling it might save a couple more watts), or switch between them as high/low performance modes like the present decent-GPU systems. I'm leaning towards the former.

Which will of course mean all systems will happily support OpenCL :)

BTW, the 9600 is rubbish, you can't deny it. That doesn't make the entire computer rubbish (obviously), but it does severely cripple it in games, and now with OpenCL, will start crippling it in many more areas too. Basically, it makes a potentially fantastic, all-round computer only a great, does-almost anything computer for most users. And makes a potentially 1337 computer get totally pwned, dude, for gamers. (shoots self)
 
I ordered a base macbook pro 15in 2.53GHz, 250gb hard drive, etc... on black friday from Amazon.com for $1549.95. I'm set to receive my laptop this friday and wonder if I should just refuse shipment. The general consensus from all of the people on here and my bro seems to be that there is a revision coming in January (with better processor, etc...).

I'm not completely pressed to get a new laptop cuz mine isn't dying just yet. Honestly, I'm a broke mofo and thought I was getting a good deal since I've never seen it better than the student price. I was gonna give my current one to my little sister/dad who needs a computer.

Well get them to give you some $$$ for your current computer, even if it's only a token amount like $200.

That reduces your MBP to $1350.

In addition knowing Apple it'll be March and we're all jumping to conclusions.

That MBP is still a good laptop. Also it's proven - you know what they say about first generation Apple computers...
 
Looking forward to the 2010 spring refresh of the Mini! ;) Nervous what will be happening on the GPU side though.

I remember the first Mac Mini. That managed to have a CPU, an integrated chipset and a graphics chip (with off-chip memory) inside. http://www.mini-itx.com/news/13909018/

Now they can barely squeeze in a CPU and integrated all-in-one chipset.

I'm hoping the next Mac Mini will have a Core i5, the small Intel I/O hub for these CPUs, and a GTS250M or equivalent.
 
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