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Thinner, faster. But still cannot recieve an attachment modify it and then resend through email.

What good is speed when the OS restricts you from doing anything useful.

This phone will be just as useless as my iPhone 4 and all other iphones I've had.

iOS is garbage. Great hardware, sucky software.
 
Yep!

-CNET:
"The bad: Sprint and Verizon models can't use voice and data simultaneously. The smaller connector renders current accessories unusable without an adapter. There's no NFC, and the screen size pales in comparison to jumbo Android models."

Sprint & Verizon...really? So other handsets can do this?
Smaller connector/accessories...really? Apple had to change it sometime. Also, do all iPhone 5 owners poses tons of accessories...how about first time buyers.
No NFC. Absolutely, Apple & I are not convinced this is the way to go.
Screen pales in comparison to "JUMBO ANDROID MODELS" **THIS IS A POSITIVE--IT'S A PHONE NOT A TV**

Yes to your first question. I spend a lot of time looking through files while on the phone, so simultaneous voice/data is a reason I stayed with AT&T.

Had I never had it, I'm not sure I'd care, but once you're used to it...
 
Thinner, faster. But still cannot recieve an attachment modify it and then resend through email.

What good is speed when the OS restricts you from doing anything useful.

This phone will be just as useless as my iPhone 4 and all other iphones I've had.

iOS is garbage. Great hardware, sucky software.

Why do you keep buying iPhones then?
 
Huh?

I actually haven't preordered yet but glad I waited. From the reviews it sounds like the iPhone 5 is just the iphone 4SS. Wow, I can't believe they're using USB2 tech for the connector/cable. I guess they're holding back a USB 3.0 connector for the iPhone 6. Oh well I still got time to decide if I really want or need to upgrade my 4.

That's really your sticking point? Syncing speeds via the cable?

Don't you just wirelessly sync whenever it's plugged in within range of your computer?

Sure it's not as fast, but it's not like you're going anywhere at the time.
 
"It’s just too bad about that connector change. Doesn’t Apple worry about losing customer loyalty and sales?"

Wow what a stupid comment. Apple has changed their connector less than any other manufacturer yet they get this kind of grief over it. Pathetic.

Haha, that's a completely reasonable comment. While most other manufacturers are moving to universal standards like micro USB, Apple changes from one proprietary format to another. People are allowed to criticise that and calling such comments stupid is pathetic.
 
"It is now chamfered and while that looks pretty, we've already noticed that on the black model the edge has started to wear, revealing the shiny silver aluminium metal underneath the "slate" coloured coating and, indeed, we've witnessed it on two separate models, ruling out a fluke manufacturing error."

Ouch.
 
No it doesn't but you can expect about 20% more performance due to the iPhone 5 being faster.

Pretty sure they referenced 3.0 in the announcement keynote, and they've started updating notebook lines with 3.0 back in June - is this really true???

No great shakes either way, but it does limit the concept of making the change a little more... I know they just want to save package space inside the device and that's probably the main reason - would adopting the rest of the mobile market's micro USB standard not be just as small??
 
"It’s just too bad about that connector change. Doesn’t Apple worry about losing customer loyalty and sales?"

Yeah whats wrong with these fools. Why I run an the IT of a small medical practice and all of our brand new servers have standard VGA connectors with 8MB onboard VRAM - WHOOHJOOOOO.

How dare these Fruit people think its ok to change ancient ways.
 
Too early to overreact. Antenna-gate is one thing not to notice, but wear over a short period? As meticulous as Apple is, I wouldn't have expected them to overlook such a quality flaw. That said, we have absolutely no idea how Pocket Lint used their iP5. I remember back when CNet was reviewing the Galaxy Nexus they mentioned the phone was dropped several times and that's why the back cover was no longer flush to the device.

How will these phones look in the store after everyone is using them if this finish is coming off on both black and white models?!
 
"It’s just too bad about that connector change. Doesn’t Apple worry about losing customer loyalty and sales?"

Yeah whats wrong with these fools. Why I run an the IT of a small medical practice and all of our brand new servers have standard VGA connectors with 8MB onboard VRAM - WHOOHJOOOOO.

How dare these Fruit people think its ok to change ancient ways.

This analogy is incorrect.

Firstly, the VGA connector has been superseded by DVI, an industry standard that was a huge improvement.

Secondly, Apple replaced one proprietary format with another, instead of a universal standard.

Finally, the connector adaptors are quite expensive - 29$ if not more.
 
Pretty sure they referenced 3.0 in the announcement keynote, and they've started updating notebook lines with 3.0 back in June - is this really true???

No great shakes either way, but it does limit the concept of making the change a little more... I know they just want to save package space inside the device and that's probably the main reason - would adopting the rest of the mobile market's micro USB standard not be just as small??

I think Apple didn't go with micro USB because it would probably reduce their ability to generate revenue in the 'royalty' program (MFi Program). Micro USB is a fairly standardized protocol and Apple wouldn't necessairly be able to limit hardware manufacturers from developing accessories for the iPhone.

My guess is that Apple will incorporate USB 3.0 and/or Thunderbolt in the next iPhone iteration(s). Just for argument's sake, if the next iPhone had Thunderbolt connectivity, it would give many more customers the chance to experience Thunderbolt. As of today, I have Thunderbolt ports on my MBPr, but I don't use them. Maybe if the next iPhone had it, I could use it (which could be a thinking that many consumers are adopting).
 
I won't. I'm now switching to Samsung. But that doesn't mean I cannot provide my opinion or comments.

Question; do you have a Apple logo tattooed on your forehead?

Strangely enough I don't - I asked as you said this: "This phone will be just as useless as my iPhone 4 and all other iphones I've had." If all your iPhones have been useless but you bought them anyway it seems that you're the fanboy here.
 
With iCloud, photo stream, backup and wireless syncing does anyone use the cable for anything more than charging and major OS updates?

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Its a no brainer for an iPhone 4 user, not so much for a 4S.

I completely agree. And I've previously asked who's dumping a perfectly good 4S and paying hundreds in early upgrade fees for a 5. Seems no one's willing to admit that... ;)
 
How will these phones look in the store after everyone is using them if this finish is coming off on both black and white models?!

First, I'm sure they'd get replaced once they noticed.

Second, I posted this in the iPhone forum:

http://cdn.pocket-lint.com/images/4RWr/apple-iphone-5-phone-review-6.jpg?20120919-102533

So I guess unless this seems normal, customers won't be seeing this instores unless you're taking a key to it.

I have however, seen Macbooks with nicks and scratches on them, but obviously knowing that its a display item and they are handled by 100s if not 1000s per day.
 
I've been using iOS 6 b4, and something that (I think) has gone unsaid is that Street View is not present in the new Maps. That is a major blunder on Apple's part.
 
I've preordered black and so long as it doesn't affect functionality I'm not too concerned about some light wear.... if the band does start to scratch after a while it will nicely match the dent I've already managed to put into the top right corner of my iPad (3rd Gen) - damn you quarry tile kitchen floor, but at least the screen survived :rolleyes:
 
You're not alone. I've lost count of how many time I've heard someone remark, "Why don't you get a real computer." I'll never understand why PC folks are so obsessed with what Mac folks are doing. The opposite isn't true, that's for sure. If they want to use a PC, so be it. We prefer a Mac. We have our reasons.

I guess what they say is true: haters gonna hate.

Agreed. Same with phones. I could care less about people who use Android OS. I understand the need for alternatives in the market and I don't go around saying anti Samsung stuff in peoples faces despite the fact that I prefer iOS, but in the workplace I've gotten comments from a number of Android users basically saying I was a stupid sheep for using an iPhone 4S (at the same time, about 90% of the office uses iOS devices and several other Android users are waiting for the iPhone 5 to switch). It just seems strange to me that people are so rabid about mobile phone platforms!
 
probably already acknowledged, but Luke Peters sounds massively butt-hurt.. almost as if he wasn't eligible for an upgrade until next year.
 
That's really your sticking point? Syncing speeds via the cable?

Don't you just wirelessly sync whenever it's plugged in within range of your computer?

Sure it's not as fast, but it's not like you're going anywhere at the time.

I hate wireless synching. It takes forever. I don't understand why Apple put USB3 in their new MBPs but not their iPhones. A thunderbolt cable would also have been nice as well. Imagine syncing/backing up in seconds rather minutes or hour depending on the amount of music, apps, and other data you have on your iPhone/iPad?
 
Strangely enough I don't - I asked as you said this: "This phone will be just as useless as my iPhone 4 and all other iphones I've had." If all your iPhones have been useless but you bought them anyway it seems that you're the fanboy here.

Are you sure, I think you do. A big fat Apple logo slapped right in the centre.

You could wear a hat? Would that help disguise your inadequacies?

I hear poor attempts or obviouse use of sarcasumn make the logo more prominent. Maybe if you stopped posting lame and poor knee-jerk responses to people's threads, and restrained from presonal attacks, you might get better, over time... If its not an illness...
 
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