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First iPhone Worm Affects Jailbroken iPhones in Australia
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Does BitTorrent, or the audio input port disable DRM, which makes piracy possible?
(Never trust an analogy. They'll always come back to bite you.. dangerous little critters.. that's why I never use 'em..)
I don't think jailbreaking disables DRM. It just allows you to.
I mean, all my app stores apps are still DRM protected on my phone. If i want i can now install a program to remove this DRM. But it isn't automatically removed.
If you buy a game for your computer it has DRM built in. But you can get something to bypass and break this encryption. Same thing really.
Sony released something for computers to stop you copying their CD's. Something called a rootkit, i don't like those.
Does BitTorrent, or the audio input port disable DRM, which makes piracy possible?
(Never trust an analogy. They'll always come back to bite you.. dangerous little critters.. that's why I never use 'em..
DRM content playing on audio player connected to audio input...record input.
So yes, It does.
Old news to me.....didn't we have this talk back in 1.xx firmware..well not the worm but change the pswd on ssh..Seems like jailbroken users aka "noob" now know to change pswd.
You really have no clue what you are missing
Okay ... that's it, now I have to step in. ;-)
I've been jailbroken since the first iphone and I have not installed a single pirated app. Not only that ... I PAY for jailbroken apps as well.
Want to get educated in what you are missing?
Google:
Intelliscreen from intelliborn
SBSettings
Stack
Orbits
ByteSMS - quick reply and quick SMS
qTweeter
Then come back here and tell me you wouldn't like any of these things running on your phone if you could ... well, you can.
Customizing is nice too, but I don't care for that.
Right, they do it to pirate apps. Oh, right, and customization.
Okay ... that's it, now I have to step in. ;-)
I've been jailbroken since the first iphone and I have not installed a single pirated app. Not only that ... I PAY for jailbroken apps as well.
Want to get educated in what you are missing?
Google:
Intelliscreen from intelliborn
SBSettings
Stack
Orbits
ByteSMS - quick reply and quick SMS
qTweeter
Then come back here and tell me you wouldn't like any of these things running on your phone if you could ... well, you can.
Customizing is nice too, but I don't care for that.
Does BitTorrent, or the audio input port disable DRM, which makes piracy possible?
(Never trust an analogy. They'll always come back to bite you.. dangerous little critters.. that's why I never use 'em..
No ... but the entire Mac OS allows you to defeat DRM, so ... mmm ... your OSX IS JAILBROKEN from the shop. You should stop using it right away, and switch to an OS that only allows you to install what apple tells you - I'm sure they'd do that if they could.
How hard is it to understand that people who jailbreak just appreciate the same access on their phone that they get on their computer.
The iphone IS OSX ... and it wants to be free.
Most of the jailbreak makers wouldn't recommend intelliscreen. Even Saurik who wrote cydia hates it. There is an alternative that i used run but I couldn't get it to look the way i wanted. Too lazy to figure out how to so i didn't reinstall when i upgraded firmware.
I dont understand why you are so hateful to the ppl this affects. It doesn't affect you. Why are are you so mad at them for getting their OWN phones infected? I dont have the first clue what some of the things in Cydia do but I have my phone jailbroken and I say F*** you if you if you want to stop me from doing it just because I dont know as much about it as you. I have done my research since jailbreaking and have made it a point to change my ssh password. Chill out and get off other ppls backs just because they didnt change their password. Its really none of your business what they do with their phone.
Guys, you're never going to convince the anti-jailbreak crowd that you're not installing pirated apps by the dozen and doing all other types of nefarious things. They've made up their mind and obviously know what you're up to better than you do yourselves, so it's a waste of time. For those of us who have JB'ed our devices and aren't stealing apps, let's just enjoy it.
AIUI, piracy is isn't possible without jailbreaking, which is my only objection to it. If there were a jailbreaking solution which prevented cracked App store apps from being installed, I'd be all in favour of it.
I do understand that a lot of jailbreakers don't pirate software, but there's a lot of evidence too that more people pirate iPhone apps than buy them. In some cases, it's around 50-50. The Rally Master Pro game developers claimed a 95% piracy rate of their game.
Given a choice, I'd prefer to have no jailbreaking and no piracy; over jailbreaking & piracy. Ideally, I'd prefer jailbreaking and no piracy, but that option isn't available yet..
Theoretically you're right.
You need to see the reality, though. How many torrents are legal? How many jailbroken iPhones (not counting SIM unlocked!) have zero illegal software on them?
Nevertheless, jailbreaking is totally acceptable. The guys who promote it should mention the risks tho.
Uh, I jailbreak and pay for apps that require payment.
Some apps are free and only available through third party distribution, like Cydia.As for worms, I suppose if you don't know what you are doing on your computer/device then you should expect that worms might happen. Thankfully there are folks who jailbreak and have a brain.
That's not entirely true. You can, if you had the time and the know how, trick iTunes into loading DRM-broken apps onto your iphone. If you break the encryption apple is using and 'sign' your own apps.
This is a different way to put pirated apps on your iphone. It doesn't involve jailbreaking in any form. It's just that no one has had to do this since jailbreaking is easier.
Well I guess that's the whole point. The average iPhone user won't even know what this "problem" is either, yet it makes great headlines and click-throughs for the media.
I don't want any of those, So i don't jailbreak. If there is ever an app available for jailbroken devices only then i would do so, but at the moment there is not.
Assuming everyone would want the apps currently available for jailbroken devices is as bad as assuming every jailbreaker steals apps.
Ideally, I'd prefer jailbreaking and no piracy, but that option isn't available yet..
Yes it is. But that choice is up to the individual.
You misunderstand, likely because you want to. This is an SSH exploit. You don't have to have SSH when JBed. How far do you want to go back on the blame line? Saying it is the fault of jailbreaking is like saying it is the fault of Apple for making the iPhone, or maybe IBM for all their R&D on making circuitry tiny enough to make smartphones possible at all....Why not put it right where it should be: SSH that is turned on when it likely shouldn't be, and not protected with a proper password. Gee, that would be the user, wouldn't it?
My Touch is not currently JBed (it was once, and I used SSH, AND I changed the password), but I have a book reader app (paid $10-20 for it on Store) with some wireless capabilities for accessing a PC from an iPhone/Touch for ftp. Someone could probably write an exploit for it, too, they give security warnings about how to use the function right in the instructions for the app. I haven't used the wireless function in months, but it is far more open than SSH, not even requiring a password at all, unless you choose to set one up.
Don't install ssh on jailbroken iPhones if you don't know exactly what it is. If you need to install ssh, read this step-by-step guide:
HOW TO change passwords in ssh:
http://cydia.saurik.com/password.html
Keep in mind that Apple changes the passwords back to default at any firmware and operating system upgrade!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell
HOW TO change passwords in ssh:
http://cydia.saurik.com/password.html
Keep in mind that Apple changes the passwords back to default at any firmware and operating system upgrade!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell
How hard is it to understand that people who jailbreak just appreciate the same access on their phone that they get on their computer.
The iphone IS OSX ... and it wants to be free.
I've no problem with jailbreaking per se - I do understand the desire for customisation and extra functionality; but the central purpose of it is to circumvent the DRM restrictions, which in turn enables piracy. As I said above, I'd have no problem with a jailbreak solution which prevented cracked App store apps from being installed.
Looks like the anti-jailbreaking community are bringing out their highest horses....
Get over it, the benefits of jailbreaking completely outweigh this exploit.
Easy fix.
http://iphonebyimuggle.blogspot.com/
30 seconds of your time.
And for all those having a go at the media for not specifically mentioning jailbroken iphones, wow... is this the first time you have seen the press exploit a story??? If you read say a newspaper, this happens on a daily basis.
Just cause it happens on a jailbroken Iphone, its still an Iphone... I know many will struggle with this.
Get over it, the benefits of jailbreaking completely outweigh this exploit.
Easy fix.
http://iphonebyimuggle.blogspot.com/
30 seconds of your time.
And for all those having a go at the media for not specifically mentioning jailbroken iphones, wow... is this the first time you have seen the press exploit a story??? If you read say a newspaper, this happens on a daily basis.
Just cause it happens on a jailbroken Iphone, its still an Iphone... I know many will struggle with this.
No high horses, just common sense.
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3743
As designed by Apple, the iPhone OS ensures that the iPhone and iPod touch operate reliably. Some customers have not understood the risks of installing software that makes unauthorized modifications to the iPhone OS ("jailbreaking") on their iPhone or iPod touch. Customers who have installed software that makes these modifications have encountered numerous problems in the operation of their hacked iPhone or iPod touch. Examples of issues caused by these unauthorized modifications to the iPhone OS have included the following:
Device and application instability: Frequent and unexpected crashes of the device, crashes and freezes of built-in apps and third-party apps, and loss of data.
Unreliable voice and data: Dropped calls, slow or unreliable data connections, and delayed or inaccurate location data.
Disruption of services: Services such as Visual Voicemail, YouTube, Weather, and Stocks have been disrupted or no longer work on the device. Additionally, third-party apps that use the Apple Push Notification Service have had difficulty receiving notifications or received notifications that were intended for a different hacked device. Other push-based services such as MobileMe and Exchange have experienced problems synchronizing data with their respective servers.
Compromised security: Security compromises have been introduced by these modifications that could allow hackers to steal personal information, damage the device, attack the wireless network, or introduce malware or viruses.
Shortened battery life: The hacked software has caused an accelerated battery drain that shortens the operation of an iPhone or iPod touch on a single battery charge.
Inability to apply future software updates: Some unauthorized modifications have caused damage to the iPhone OS that is not repairable. This can result in the hacked iPhone or iPod touch becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone OS update is installed.
Apple strongly cautions against installing any software that hacks the iPhone OS. It is also important to note that unauthorized modification of the iPhone OS is a violation of the iPhone end-user license agreement and because of this, Apple may deny service for an iPhone or iPod touch that has installed any unauthorized software.
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Same can be said for hacking any piece of tech. If you want to "customize" beyond what manufacturer's guidelines (and implemented barriers) allow, then you take your chances. Doesn't mean there is absolutely no problem with what you are doing just because you happen to know how to do it. You're playing outside operating guidelines and hacking your device. It's pretty simple.