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First iPhone Worm Affects Jailbroken iPhones in Australia
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I don't trust individuals.
It's often human nature to determine what's right and wrong based on how easy it is to do and/or how many other people are doing it.
Actually, I always thought the central purpose was the extra functionality and customization...
Perhaps you are not familiar with how jailbreaking works? It allows root access to your device, meaning you can do with it what you will. You would be unable to jailbreak your device without root access, which is the point. Having said that, you can use the device as you wish after, just like you can use your computer to pay for apps or to download cracked apps and be a pirate.
I don't trust individuals.
It's often human nature to determine what's right and wrong based on how easy it is to do and/or how many other people are doing it.
Time to grow up then.
How prominent is the warning to change the SSH password? Is it a pop-up dialog? Or one line hidden in a several-page readme?
But why don't you have that same problem with your computer? Your computer allows circumventing anything.
Piracy is a moral issue. Not a hardware issue. Just as regular theft is.
Of course, I see what you are saying with your last line, but that's the catch. A system is either open or it's closed. By allowing any app to be installed, you are in fact allowing ANY app to be installed. But again, this has worked in the desktop world, and it's a little hilarious that apple thought it would be okay to "backtrack" on this with the iphone.
But there is no problem. Those who don't know better - don't do it, and those who do, do. It IS really the best of both worlds - which is why it's working so successfully. Apple doesn't have to do what it doesn't want to do, and I don't have to do what apple wants me to do. There is little room for complaining there.
Just want to touch on the pirating subject. First off let me say I'm Guilty. I have done it but have since removed not due to feeling guilty just don't want to get sued. However how many songs do you have on your Iphone. if its over a couple hundred do you honestly expect me to believe you paid for all of those. It's the same thing. Stealing apps and music is wrong Blah Blah Blah. I agree it is wrong. I also agree that not every person does it. I didnt know what installous was for a loooong time after I jaibroke my phone.Call me an a$$hole if you want. Like I said I admit my guilt but I dont believe half of the self Righteous ppl who condemn others for pirating apps don't do the same crap in another form. Quit b**ching at me and look at yourself!
I am quite happy that something like this has finally taken place.
Not saying that I have not tried around with some jailbreaks in the past, but people should have known from the get go that they had no need in changing something that needed not be changed.
I just laugh now at the people that walk around showing off their cool dock/background images, now with a picture of Rick Astley. How cool is that?!!?
Anyways, I think this touches the whole XBOX 360 Modding stuff as well, as people have been modding their consoles to support legal backups, yet they were banned from the online services weather or not they did something wrong.
Not saying that I have not tried around with some jailbreaks in the past, but people should have known from the get go that they had no need in changing something that needed not be changed.
I just laugh now at the people that walk around showing off their cool dock/background images, now with a picture of Rick Astley. How cool is that?!!?
Anyways, I think this touches the whole XBOX 360 Modding stuff as well, as people have been modding their consoles to support legal backups, yet they were banned from the online services weather or not they did something wrong.
Actually, I always thought the central purpose was the extra functionality and customization...
Perhaps you are not familiar with how jailbreaking works? It allows root access to your device, meaning you can do with it what you will. You would be unable to jailbreak your device without root access, which is the point. Having said that, you can use the device as you wish after, just like you can use your computer to pay for apps or to download cracked apps and be a pirate.
Yes, but the extra functionality and customisation is enabled by circumventing the same Apple restrictions which prevent piracy.
Because I don't trust people to do the right thing without being 'pushed'? There's a lot of evidence that more people are pirating iPhone apps than buying them. In that light, it looks like I'm right not to trust.
Funny you should link that. Cause I get those problem on my non-jailbroken Iphone. The only one that I will agree with is the compromised security. For those who have owned a iphone 1.0 onwards... we have experienced everyone of those issues thanks to Apple (non jail-broken).
Do they have one of those links for SL? Warning about hackintosh?
Running a hackintosh can whipe your os!!!.... ow Darn, hang on...thats on a mac...
Why are people surpriced?
If you use a system vulnerability to hack the iPhone, and this puts you at risk because of the vulnerability and due to the inability to quickly switch to the latest version of the OS (due to having to wait for the next hack) leaves you hanging for a while with old vulnerabilities that others already fixed, who is to blame?
Is it Apple becuase they have not created the "Open iPhone" of your dreams or is it you that decided to bypass the security of the Apple iPhone to install other software?
Not sure how some of you do it, I like my iPhone to work all of the time and be as bug free and as vulnerabilty free as possible. When I reach for my phone I expect it to work.
I do not depend on hacks to updatr my iPhone to work when I reach for it, I do not like to have to wait 1 to 6 weeks to install the lter version,
I guess those extra software packages running on hacked iPhones must be great, why else would people use a phone that requires s lot of effort iand having to wait 1 to 6 weeks to upgrade the iPhon?
If you use a system vulnerability to hack the iPhone, and this puts you at risk because of the vulnerability and due to the inability to quickly switch to the latest version of the OS (due to having to wait for the next hack) leaves you hanging for a while with old vulnerabilities that others already fixed, who is to blame?
Is it Apple becuase they have not created the "Open iPhone" of your dreams or is it you that decided to bypass the security of the Apple iPhone to install other software?
Not sure how some of you do it, I like my iPhone to work all of the time and be as bug free and as vulnerabilty free as possible. When I reach for my phone I expect it to work.
I do not depend on hacks to updatr my iPhone to work when I reach for it, I do not like to have to wait 1 to 6 weeks to install the lter version,
I guess those extra software packages running on hacked iPhones must be great, why else would people use a phone that requires s lot of effort iand having to wait 1 to 6 weeks to upgrade the iPhon?
I'd prefer it if piracy weren't possible on Macs either, but that's another story and another thread.
As you said, the iPhone is a new platform, and that's why Apple can get away with it being a closed platform. I'm sure they'd love to have as much control over the Mac (once upon a time, they did!), but once a platform is opened it's virtually impossible to go back. Don't forget though, a mobile phone as a 3rd party apps platform is quite a new concept, it's still a nascent market which has to find its own rules and norms.
I do find it a little... odd.. how so many people desperate for an open, free, customisable platform buy a closed, non-customisable phone from a vendor notorious for wanting strict control over its products. Some people really don't want an easy life..
It's obviously bad and all that, but the image choice is superb
I have to agree, what a great image of Rick; he looks like he's 8...
As for the "worm" itself, jailbreakers more than deserve it, not to mention that by installing SSH you are always asked to change your password; yet people say Apple should open up the whole environment...go figure!
I do find it a little... odd.. how so many people desperate for an open, free, customisable platform buy a closed, non-customisable phone from a vendor notorious for wanting strict control over its products. Some people really don't want an easy life..
I bought it because i like the iPhone. I like the interface, the way it works and because i have a lot of money invested in it in Apps i paid for. If i'd pirated all my apps, like the thief i must be because i jailbreak, then i'd find it easier to move over to a competitor.
I also like the way it works with iTunes. I bought an Ipod a long time ago and moved over to iTunes for my music needs. Changing would be hard and i'd prefer not to.
However i don't see the competitors (at the time) offering a good alternative. The Pre is interesting but doesn't have enough memory, android is still questionable and Windows Mobile is too old and stuck in an old paradigm.
Jailbreaking is relatively easy and allows me to do what i want to do on my phone. Without it i wouldn't have purchased a locked down iPhone. Maybe i should pirate all my future apps so that when Apple locks the iPhone down completely i can easily jump ship...
Or they could simply include a second level of DRM which means jailbreakers could do what they want without removing iTunes DRM. Giving us the flexibility we want without the loss of their protection.
It's possible that if my phone was unlocked i might skip the jailbreak altogether... but it's not so i won't.
guess you are the same individual who think torrents = piracy. please, get out of the dark!!
Don't be so myopic. Jailbroken or not, the iPhone doesn't appear to be as secure as previously thought. Using this as an opportunity to rag on jailbreak iPhone users is just ignorance.
Know what you're doing when you jailbreak your iPhone. Most experienced users have nothing to fear from this worm, as they know how to use their device.
This has nothing to do with being experienced user with your iphone. Anyone who has a password for anything should know to change it and make it confidential.(Meant as non-offensive as possible)