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Yes... Apple created a gorgeous screen. And they talked about it.

Sorry I thought Samsung R&D'd it and manufactured the screen and Apple bought it from them.

Retina display does not exist, it's just a name that Apples used to make something seem magical, saying that when a average person held the phone at an average distance they could not see the dots.

An above average person, or holding it closer destroys that marketing statement.
 
Because Apple doesn't do something unless they have a VERY good reason to.

LG and Samsung have screens with 534ppi. That's great.

But is it that much better than a screen with 416ppi? Or even 326ppi?

There are lots of other things to consider besides resolution: battery life, GPU horsepower, etc. You may say Apple is getting left behind... but not when those other phones run like garbage because they are trying to push too many pixels.

We're at the point where pixels are basically invisible... so do we really need to make them smaller?

The term "diminishing returns" comes to mind.

My iPhone 5S screen is 326ppi. But I've never once thought it needs to be sharper.

And that's what Apple does when they design something. They don't add needless specs for the hell of it.

So how dare Apple make a screen with such "low" specs? They weighed the pros and cons.

I'm with you on that.

And besides, Android needs those ridiculously high screen densities to compensate for fractional UI scaling, something iOS doesn't do in its system standard UI as everything is perfectly aligned to physical pixels. On Android, trying to make a single pixel thin line will result in a 2 pixels wide antialiased line because of fractional UI scaling, high density screens are used to mitigate that problem.

Yes a sizeable portion of the market have been clamouring for a bigger iPhone screen, but I don't know of anyone who think that the current iPhone screen is not sharp enough (aside from spec whores in this forum). To those who don't care as much about one handed operation, a bigger screen is a tangible benefit. The same is not true for PPI.

And no, 1.5x doesn't make it easy for developers. And there's no indication of this in Xcode 6. Apple wants devs to make their app resolution independent, but there's nothing to support PPI independence in iOS 8.
 
People like you are exactly what puts me off about this site. Typical Apple fans who expect everything to be beyond prefect, even a simple illustration who an perhaps ordinary guy made just to show how a display size would look in a hand. But no, it was a shocking image for a lots of drama members around here!!

Drop it already and get a life if you don't have one.

Sense of humor is obviously not your selling-point.
 
Anyone notice the Apple logo that is covered up on the back of the lcd screens? It matches with the rear case cut out for the logo
 
When the iPhone was first released, 3.5" was the perfect size for a phone. However after mobile gaming and browsing really took off, there was definitely a need for a larger screen to appreciate and utilise more content.

Regrettably Apple's defiance and insistence that the one-handed use of a phone is imperative will give the haters quite a lot of ammunition once Apple do release a larger screen with their next phone. Nonetheless they are making the right move and although it's potentially a couple of years too late, they're not yet in a position where it's too little, too late -- as arguably it is with RIM.

Not yet in a position where it's too little too late - just the best selling phone and the second best selling phone in the world. But they're close to Blackberry!!!

My guess is that they're going to have a solution for one handed use.
 
What was the VERY good reason to make the Plastic iPhone?

Again, sometimes what people think does matter.
Apple seeing by all industry leaders as trailing the pack whilst supposedly telling everyone they are the best is probably not the best idea.

When Apple did introduce their screen they branded as Retina, is was THE talking point as it lead the pack, specs did matter and it was the talking point.

They will never lead the pack in that way I doubt, but at least put a screen in that people regard at in the top division, an equal to others in the market they are placing their product.

Shortage of phones being built on the same assembly line? Lower cost materials for a lower cost phone?

Apple is not trailing the pack, only a complete fool would ignore that they were the first and most prolific phone to have BLE, first with a 64-bit architecture, thinnest and lightest, and outperforms every other phone in benchmarks for so long the competition must be seriously trailing behind.

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That sounds very interesting as a viewpoint, but if I may shed a little more reality onto it.

Apple had to wait until LG or Samsung could R&D a screen that Apple could buy from them to use in an Apple branded product.

Cutting away the gloss I think you will find that's the nuts and bolts of it.

Apple don't make this stuff or develop it, they have to wait for others to, and then buy the items to use in their products.

Oh, it is so hilarious that you think those guys do the R&D on all of this stuff too. You're just as bad as those who think Apple creates all of its components, probably worse even, since you have obviously tried to dig into this. But really you are just out to shame Apple.

Apple developed their current CPU, did they not? Who built the lightning port and cable?
 
I really can't decide which one I want. I like one handed use, so the 4.7 would be good there, but browsing the web on the go with a 5.5" screen would also have its benefits.

I second this. I want the 4.7 for portability, but I use my iPhone in the field (as an ecologist) quite often for plant species identification, and to watch and display videos to my team while we're outside. The 5.5 would be better suited for that.

Maybe my best bet is to get my hands on a phablet of a similar size and see if it simply feels like it is way too much.

I had an iPad mini for work use, but it was extra cumbersome to carry the mini and a phone around out in the middle of the woods. Better having Audabon guides on my phone as an app versus toting books around, though.

Anyone here own a device around 5.5 that can attest to it being portable enough as a phone?

Thanks! Z.
 
I think people will be really angry if they do not release both phones in one event.
They want choices for holiday shopping.

I the 5.5" model comes 6 month later, people will scream bloody murder.

I will look at both but probably go with the 4.7" model, but if I have to wait I will always think "well, what if the 5.5" model has some advanced GPU?" or other interesting features.

Most would be disappointed if they shift the dates.

As for the iWatch, I don't believe different sizes will fly either....


Again, not one Note owner I see online complains about the release cycle for the Note series. It's widely accepted that Galaxy phones are released in the first half of the year and Note's are released later in the year. What I'm saying is that Apple should have released a larger iPhone 3 months ago when the smaller iPhone started to become stale. Why have just one release of everything in the fall and then have your momentum die after 4 or 5 months?
And so what if people scream bloody murder. I don't see people boycotting Samsung for releasing 20 phones, 6 smart watches and 15 tablets a year. If you don't like it don't buy it.
 
And suddenly, one hand use became useless, as Apple fans around the world supported Apple's decision to sell a bigger iPhone than ever.

For sure Apple will refer to the back swipe as their solution to the 'one handed operation' issue that they already implemented in iOS7.

People will eat it up and forget all about their bitter denial of the existence of anything other than 4" phones.

I'm still not sold on these 'generously' proportioned phones, but I could never reach each corner of my iPhone 5 with one hand anyway.

I'll probably get a 5CS :p
 
Sorry I thought Samsung R&D'd it and manufactured the screen and Apple bought it from them.

Retina display does not exist, it's just a name that Apples used to make something seem magical, saying that when a average person held the phone at an average distance they could not see the dots.

An above average person, or holding it closer destroys that marketing statement.

You thought wrong then. Samsung fabricates the panels. They have nothing to do with the front and backend of Apple products.
 
Then you'd be wrong since Samsung doesn't R&D the screens, companies like DuPont do - and hand the research over to Samsung with manufacturing instructions as well.

Also, you may want to do a bit of research and you will find that Apple actually does design their screens in some cases. Retina means PPI+distance, throwing out the "magical" word along with "average person" says it all...you are a troll.

I accept the R&D Point.

However I stand by the fact that Apple takes something nuts and bolts and weaves a magical statement and branding around it, creates scripts, and gets apple staff to act on camera with the script to make it all sound something far more amazing and "almost magical" than it is as a physical product.

But then I hate Car adverts which tell you nothing but try and sell you an amazing imaginary lifestyle if you own the car.
 
All this iPhone 6 stuff is making me sick. Now every "who ever" comes with a piece of plastic showing is a mock up of the original, I mean... it has already showed 100,000 time already, why need to show more? everybody has the measurements 3 months ago. Can we cover another story please?

Beating a dead horse.

Then don't click it.

This isn't even a mockup, it's an actual screen from the larger model, something we haven't seen yet.
 
5.5 inches sounds massive, but I tried a Samsung galaxy S5 the other day and it was comfortable enough to use. Only problem is that the iPhone 6 is going to be taller and wider, so I'll probably get the 4.7 inch model.
 
And suddenly, one hand use became useless, as Apple fans around the world supported Apple's decision to sell a bigger iPhone than ever.

And yet in the end nobody - except for the irrelevant online trolls - will give a crap about that and it will sell.
 
Because Apple doesn't do something unless they have a VERY good reason to.

LG and Samsung have screens with 534ppi. That's great.

But is it that much better than a screen with 416ppi? Or even 326ppi?

There are lots of other things to consider besides resolution: battery life, GPU horsepower, etc. You may say Apple is getting left behind... but not when those other phones run like garbage because they are trying to push too many pixels.

We're at the point where pixels are basically invisible... so do we really need to make them smaller?

The term "diminishing returns" comes to mind.


Yep.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/06/lg-g3-review-a-great-phone-with-way-too-many-pixels/

From the article:

Ars Technica said:
As you would expect, the screen is beautiful. Even at point-blank range, it's hard to resolve a single pixel. 1080p screens are also beautiful, though, and when looking at the two, side-by-side, we aren't convinced the jump to 1440p is necessary. More pixels only matter if you can see them, and on a ~5-inch device, it's almost impossible to tell the difference between a 1080p screen and the 1440p screen of the G3. Every bump in resolution comes with more power draw, and we'd prefer longer battery life over an extra serving of pixels that make no difference in day-to-day usage.
 
Sorry I thought Samsung R&D'd it and manufactured the screen and Apple bought it from them.

Samsung, and others, make components to Apple's specifications.

Apple designs it... others build it. But isn't the design the most important part?

Retina display does not exist, it's just a name that Apples used to make something seem magical, saying that when a average person held the phone at an average distance they could not see the dots.

An above average person, or holding it closer destroys that marketing statement.

Look man... Apple sold hundreds of millions of iPhones with sub-HD resolution while everyone else had true HD resolution.

That ought to tell you a little something about the importance of screen resolution and PPI.

Are you telling me Apple is doomed because they don't have 2560x1440 screens? Oh the horror! I can see the dots!

:D

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You think so.

Developed?

An Arm CPU. I guess it depends what you mean developed really

Apple has 1,000 engineers working solely on CPUs.

I'd imagine they have engineers working on every component that goes in their devices.
 
I really don' t get the dummies made for the iphone 6 5.5 inch.
I get the 4.7 inch dummies, there was a schematics leak from foxconn for the 4.7 model.
But there have been no leaks for the 5.5 model.
Just a weird case leak and a leak on a japanese website, but that was for a 5.7 model.
The 5.5 dummies are 81mm wide while the leaked schematic for the 5.7 inch is 77mm wide.
It makes no sense at all.
My guess:
I think it will be 4 mm less wide(at least) and 77 mm wide and 154mm tall. And look more like this. Apple will never release a model like the dummies posted.

Image

That would look good. The bezels aren't that big at all.
 
Papercraft

I'm planning on buying an iPhone 6 in the fall when it comes out, but I'm not sure which size I'll want. Anyone with some skill made papercraft for the latest iPhone 6 leaks?
 
Top photos were taken inside an automobile?
This must be the new version of blurry photos taken inside a lift.

I'm guessing this was his plan:

-sneak screen out during break time
-sit inside my car, smoke a cig and pretending to think about the enjoyment of assembling the new iphone 6
-conveniently has a ruler ready for doubters
-snap pics of the screen
-return screen after break time
-go home post to the internet :cool:


iPhone fans freaks out seeng the leaked screen :D
 
After using a Sony Xperia Z Ultra no phone is too big for me to use. I could even fit it in my jeans pockets. Just barely but it did fit. I'm looking forward to seeing the 5.5" iPhone.
 
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