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First Mac Pro Review Units Out in the Wild

kyjaotkb said:
French 1 000,00 €

symbol comes after the number. Decimal point is actually a comma. Thousands separator is a space. There is no pan-European standard.
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also very confusing,
for million billion trillion quadrillion... in english,
in french it goes million milliard billion billiard trillion...
so 1 000 000 000 000 (10^12) is "1 trillion" in english and "1 billion" in french
 
no longer can we say "most of Apple's money comes from Macbook Pro's/Retina buyers the top"

Now, most will come from Mac Pro...

(assuming people can afford it), even though the In-app purchases are there too.
 
grrrz said:
also very confusing,
for million billion trillion quadrillion... in english,
in french it goes million milliard billion billiard trillion...
so 1 000 000 000 000 (10^12) is "1 trillion" in english and "1 billion" in french
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As does German (except that they capitalise everything).

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kyjaotkb said:
French 1 000,00 €

symbol comes after the number. Decimal point is actually a comma. Thousands separator is a space. There is no pan-European standard.
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In Germany the decimal separator is a comma but in Switzerland it is a full stop. Matters a lot if you do online banking.
 
grrrz said:
also very confusing,
for million billion trillion quadrillion... in english,
in french it goes million milliard billion billiard trillion...
so 1 000 000 000 000 (10^12) is "1 trillion" in english and "1 billion" in french
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The number crunching begins............
 
osx11 said:
I agree, it's confusing. And it's such a minor thing that could potentially cause serious problems and misunderstandings. I know Americans think their system makes more sense and Europeans think their way makes more sense. But in a world with increasingly more international business relations, this is very inconvenient. But one side would have to give. And since that's never going to happen, things will unfortunately stay like this.
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given the context you can usually figure it out.
you rarely use more than two decimals for money. It's only a problem if you use exactly three decimals
like
10,234
10.234
10 234
(to my eyes only the third one is 10234, first two are 10 plus decimals, since we're used to use a point as a decimal separator with calculators)
but the context is also what you're talking about, and where is it coming from, so it's enough.
on a related note as I stated earlier english speaking country can't abandon their imperial unit system even if the metric system is clearly superior,
so this comma point space confusion thing won't go away
 
Tech198 said:
Who's needs Retina, when it can do 4K.



Yep, that's the one :)
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Retina is a made up term. And odds are that a "retina" display would have a higher resolution than 4K.



lkrupp said:
Before all the nonsense about how you can buy a Dell with more power for a tenth of the price how’s about you go and check the prices of the CPU, the graphics cards, the RAM and report back. And don’t forget the biggest perk of all, a souped up version of Final Cut Pro optimized for this machine. Professional (real professionals, not so-called prosumers) video editors will be all over this thing.
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You're under the assumption that FCPX has significantly penetrated the professional space.
 
unplugme71 said:
I'll buy it used next week for $500 cheaper
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Naw, you're thinking of a PC (you walk out the store and its lost 1/4 of its value)...these things are in short supply and will be for a long time - they'll be even more expensive than retail pricing on eBay for quite a while methinks...
 
0x0x0x0 said:
Because having a word processor, or browser, start in a second or so vs a few seconds is going to make so much difference to the average use case?..
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The Mac Pro is not designed for the average user. Its designed for professionals who need that kind of performance.
 
sfwalter said:
I am going to seriously look at Hackintosh solutions over the holidays. I would give Apple $2000 of my money if they made a Mac between the Mac Mini and Mac Pro.
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So tired of hearing this CD, there must be a deep scratch on it that's making it mis-track causing it to annoyingly repeat itself. :rolleyes:
 
blackhand1001 said:
They are essentially the same chip. They are the same die and everything. COnsidering people run haswell/ivy bridge/and sandybridge chips at 4.5-4.9 ghz stable quite often I think they would be perfectly fine running at the stock 3.7 ghz 24/7.
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There are no i7 8-12 core chips. You want Apple to build two motherboards, one for Xeons and one for 4 core i7 just for a single config?
 
Was ready to buy one but will not wait

As a video editor working in 4k and visual effects I was ready and excited to drop $10,000 on a new mac pro a year ago and held out for today. Unfortunately work will not wait and availability will force me to go with another machine. Because of loyalty to Apple I've passed up jobs other totally adequate machines but that loyalty can't persuade me to stick it out any longer... To be honest I'm upset about how the information has been communicated to the customer base for this computer regarding realistic timelines for this machine's release.
 
tmroper said:
Okay, so it's very reflective and it rolls. Those specs have to be two firsts for a review of a workstation. For the more in-depth review, I hope they cover whether anything like a ping-pong ball can hover over it in the venting air flow.
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ROFL! I really did LOL about the ping-pong ball. Excellent post!!
 
weott33 said:
As a video editor working in 4k and visual effects I was ready and excited to drop $10,000 on a new mac pro a year ago and held out for today. Unfortunately work will not wait and availability will force me to go with another machine. Because of loyalty to Apple I've passed up jobs other totally adequate machines but that loyalty can't persuade me to stick it out any longer... To be honest I'm upset about how the information has been communicated to the customer base for this computer regarding realistic timelines for this machine's release.
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Right out of the gate (June) they said "coming this fall". And today was the 2nd to last day they could have released it (work day) and still been able to claim that it indeed did come in the "fall" as promised. The only catch is that you now have to keep waiting as delivery times are now out in February.:(

Can't say I blame you for feeling strung along. But I am sure there are those at Apple who were also disappointed with whatever was causing the production delays. Nobody wanted this much of a delay.

Now the wait begins for real world comparisons not to just other Mac Pros but to the other Macs. Then we'll all get a better feel for how "worth it" these machines are.

And hopefully Apple will soon update the other "Pro" Apps to follow FCP X which was just updated to take full advantage of all the processing power of the nMP.

At least things are starting to move now...:D
 
guzhogi said:
Obviously, you're unfamiliar with the fact that some Europeans switch the meaning of periods and commas in terms of numbers. To an American, one thousand ninety-two and one tenth would be written as 1,092.1. To some Europeans, it would be written as 1.092,2. Same thing.

Back on topic, the Mac Pros are cool, but I can't afford one. Plus, I doubt I'd really need that much processing power.
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If you ever find an American who has actually used the number "one thousand ninety two and one tenth", I, for one, will be astonished.

We just don't decimate things much over here.
 
grrrz said:
on the other hand people from the US (an UK) still use silly units from the middle age like feet and inches instead of the metric system like the rest of the world ;)
http://theoatmeal.com/pl/senior_year/science
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Well, 500 years ago, or so it was darn hard to find Krypton-86, and interferometers were scarce as hen's teeth, so we went with the readily available things like feet, that most people possessed.

We'll catch up, no need to wait for us.
 
I would really like to see this machine's benchmarks compared with similarly priced alternatives.
It does look good (although that may change in real life once you got all the externals hooked up) unfortunately the price forbids buying it just for fun and looks :)
 
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