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vniow said:
Yup. My dad noticed this right off the bat when we moved out here. His truck had slightly tinted windows when he got it but not too long after we moved, he got a ticket. :eek:
Personally, I like tinted windows. And not to hide, but to dim the light from traffic behind me. Sometimes the headlights are so bright, I can barely concentrate on the road ahead of me.
 
And window tinting helps your cat..... er, I mean car, stay cooler in the hot summer months. Especially those of us with leather seats, its really nice.

Though I guess window tinting might help your cat stay cooler too..... if your cat was behind tinted windows that is
 
Back when I was living in the middle of nowhere Maine, my friend flashed her lights at oncoming traffic to signal "cop ahead." Of course it was night, we couldn't see who the oncoming traffic was ...

and it was a Maine State Trooper. Uncool.

No ticket, just a stern talking to.

I guess I see other places to wage the battle for ethics than warning people about a potential ticket for engaging in high risk behavior. If you're one of the people who won't get off my butt when I move into the left lane to pass a truck, I'm sure as hell not going to warn you about a speed trap in the future. :rolleyes:

God I'm getting old.
 
It happened again to me today... and the weird thing, it was on the exact same road (I-65N) heading from Louisville to Indianapolis.

So thank you anonymous flasher.

And yes, I also flashed.
 
Butler Trumpet said:
yeah, it was pretty lame I have to say. And yes, power hungry is right, that cop was like "You have no respect for the law driving like that," and "why would you even think to pass me? do you know who i am?"

I was pretty pissed that night.

I would have contested it, but I was out of state, and going back for court would have been even worse than just dealing with it cause it was my 1st.

My wife got pulled over for passing a cop who was going ~10 mph under the speed limit (was behind a truck or something). She got over into the middle lane and passed them both (this was on a 3 lane divided highway, or 6 lane, I suppose if you count the other direction).

Gave her the same crap... why would you pass a cop, blah blah blah. Hassled her about what she was doing, where she was going, etc. Really pissed me off that that jerk-off would be such an ass.

That said - all you people who speed and want other people to warn you if they see a cop, I have a suggestion: STOP SPEEDING YOU MORON. I'm no fan of intentionally slow speed trap zones and the like but I still drive the speed limit. If you don't like it write your city council, county road commission, state representative and get it changed. Stop endangering the rest of us because you're an impatient, immature tool.

Same goes for you old farts doing 10 mph or under the limit. If everyone would just go the speed limit +/- 5mph traffic would flow smoother (in the city - timed lights) accidents would be avoided more frequently, driving would be less stressful, and insurance rates would drop. Plus, you generally will get better gas mileage driving closer to the speed limit (either you are driving slower on the highway or you are able to keep a steadier speed in the city using less gas accelerating away from every light that you get stopped at).

I'm not an old geezer, I'm 26. I drive a custom 200hp (to the wheels, ~240hp at the crank) turbo charged car. I like to drive, and I like my car... doesn't mean I get to be a jerk and speed everywhere. Don't expect me to flash at you if I see a cop... expect me to laugh at you when you get pulled over. I guess it beats me paying more taxes.

</rant>
 
yup, I normally do :) and appreciate it when others do the same for me. Although, if there's an obvious idiot thats weaving in and out of traffic, Ill let them figure it out for themselves :)
 
FFTT said:
A few people have renamed the Dulles Toll Road,
The Troll Road, because the state troopers love to hide under the bridges.

Under bridges or in little areas that are ramped and shielded from traffic by the Jersey Walls... especially monitoring the "free" lanes to and from the airport.
 
mrgreen4242 said:
That said - all you people who speed and want other people to warn you if they see a cop, I have a suggestion: STOP SPEEDING YOU MORON. I'm no fan of intentionally slow speed trap zones and the like but I still drive the speed limit. If you don't like it write your city council, county road commission, state representative and get it changed. Stop endangering the rest of us because you're an impatient, immature tool>
yeah I agree not speeding is one way to advoiding getting a ticket

But even the best drivers who claim they never speed can easily get a speeding ticket. I seen people who attack me because I do push the limits (normall +5) and yeah I have my own share of speeding tickets to prove it. Have they slowed my down. Um yeah. I dont have another 1k to spend to keep them off my record (paid a lawyer to get the citys to reduce the thing to just paying a fine but not having it go on my record which means no insurance increase). But that being said even the best drivers can and do get nailed for speeding. It takes driving in an area you normally dont drive in and about one sec distraction to cause you to miss the new speed limit sign. Get nailed right after wards. That was how I got my 2nd ticket in 2 hours , the first one that day really cooled me and made me watch my speed very closely and I missed the speed limit dropping from 45 to 35. I got clock at 45mph and given another ticket it for it. Mind you it was a speed trap and a little dinky town that i was driving though but that momemnt laspes of judgement and missing 1 sign got me costed me about 350 bucks.


I like it when people flash their head lights. Not because it tells me to drop to the limit but more because it some telling me double chekc you speed and make sure you are not speeding. Come on driving long ways if you not using a cruise control the car general speeds up slowly over time. To me the flashing is just rememinding me to check my speed. Same reason I have a radar dector in my car now. When it goes off I double check my speed and make sure I am not over the limit.

Some like you who says dont speed you moran are the people I laugh pretty hard when they get a speeding ticket because it makes them eat there words and I dont really bother trying to help them take care of it. Most people they say oh they got a speeding ticket and I pretty helpful at telling them how to go about it and take care of it and general keep it off there record. Be the typer of person who is an ass when dont speed you moran is What did you learn. and dont speed you moran.
 
Timepass said:
Some like you who says dont speed you moran are the people I laugh pretty hard when they get a speeding ticket because it makes them eat there words and I dont really bother trying to help them take care of it. Most people they say oh they got a speeding ticket and I pretty helpful at telling them how to go about it and take care of it and general keep it off there record. Be the typer of person who is an ass when dont speed you moran is What did you learn. and dont speed you moran.

I've had my share of speeding tickets: 2 to be exact. I was 16 on the first one and 21 on the last. After that I stopped speeding. I don't buy the "I got distracted and didn't notice the speed change" argument. If you can't be bothered to focus on driving and watching for changes in signage then you can get off the road until your busy schedule permits you to give it your undivided attention.

Regardless of how you justify it, unless the sign was missing, blocked, or unreadable for some reason, or if the speed drops more than 10mph without more than one sign and several hundred feet between them, it's YOUR responsibility to be aware of the limits and abide by them, no one elses. If you screw it up it's on you.

I wanted to add that while it may sound otherwise in my first post, I'm not someone who thinks that driving slow makes you safe. Accidents tend to decrease when limits go up (to a reasonable point). That's because some people were driving that speed anyways, but some were obeying the limit. It's the increase in consistent speeds that makes it safer, not so much the actual speed itself.

I also agree that some areas are zoned to slow, wether intentional or not, but this is not a case where "civil disobenience" is the best answer. Sorry to come off like an ass, and I know that I am, but I am tired of being tailgated on my way to work EVERY morning by an SUV who wants to go 70 in the 55 zone. I got PASSED IN THE TURN LANE yesterday by one. I'm just as fed up with having to constantly slow down, pass, and then reaccelerate because grandma wants to drive 30 in the 45 on the way to the mall. I think people like that should be ticketed for obstructing traffic just as much as speeders are, they're just as dangerous to others on the road.
 
xsedrinam said:
I gauge by the impression of the on-coming driver. If he/she looks like they could use some help, I'll flash. If they're driving like a bat out of hell in a BMW, to each his own. :)

I'm that guy driving like a bat out of hell in the BMW.:p

Whenever I see a cop I flash my lights to warn other drivers, getting a ticket is an annoyance. If I see a cop on the side of the road giving someone else a ticket I slowly drive past them in 1st gear with the engine at 5,500 revs or so as close to them as possible and then just gun it at WOT. I've only had one of them stop giving the other guy a ticket to get back on his motorcycle to follow me. He never caught up.:)

So far in 2006 I've gotten four speeding tickets. If I keep this pace I'll only have eight by the end of the year, not bad. The worst one was for 120km/h in a 50km/h. Those are just the tickets, not counting the times when they *tried* to give me a ticket but couldn't either because they couldn't catch me or because they could not find which law I broke and didn't know what they should ticket me for (such as drifting across an intersection.)

They've tried impounding my car twice this year already but they haven't been able to do so because they lack the authority.:D

Only one person has warned me of a speed trap by flashing their lights. I was doing 220km/h on a 50km/h road at night when I saw someone coming in the opposite direction flashing their lights. I slowed down immediately and sure enough, two cops were waiting for speeders a few km down the road. It was definitely a nice gesture.

It kind of sucks now though, because sometimes when the cops that I've pissed off see me they'll follow me just to make sure I'm driving like a law abiding citizen. They'll even take turns following me. Oh well, I guess its like having a police escort... kind of.:eek:
 
Well there are different cases.

I never said missing the signed wasnt the fault of the driver. It is. But saying dont speed you moran doesnt help because the sign was missed by a something else distracting them. (that beign ti something on the road that require the attention an not looking at the signs). Not doing unsafe driving so one can speed. The type I talking about is the one where it just there not much in the way or traffic to really limit your speed or tell you if you are going to fast.

Long straight way is a good example really really easy to build up speed. Close to my parents place there is a road where the limit is 45mph problem is there is a long strech with no stop lights, no turns off or anything that would keep the driver speed down. not long enough to really go to the cruse control but speed builds up in that area and it is quite easy to get up to 55-60mph and not noticed it (quite offen that is the case for most people there average speed will push 55mph). Even so call drivers who say dont speed. It a good lenth of road that just causes it to happen. That where I talking about flashing headlights is nice because it something to rememind you to double check you speed and if speeding slowing down.

I not talking about intentionally speeding (as in the case with an SUV). The case I talking about is when there is not much in the way of anything to tell you that you are speeding. Speed limit drops of 10mph you have about 3 or so secs of that sign being able to really be read and in a good distance and angle to be read. Oh have a semi in that lane when the sign comes up.... well that sucks you couldnt see it. But having just having some other distraction (take me an animal shop other cars or some random event in the car) will cause it.

No where did I say people should speed. I seen to many good drivers get nailed by than 1-2 sec blank spot. Those people get screwed and the ticket would not change the behavoir since they dont speed. Yeah of the tickets I got last year 1 of them I not going to ague it I deseverit. Ticket 2 really was worthless to me besides costing me money. Why it was an honest mistake, I was stressed out tired and I missed the stupid sign. Did it correct my behavior in any way No it did not. All it did was piss me off. The first ticket did the correction for me.

Problem is a lot of citys have gone from using tickets to discoverage behaviovor to lets make money on them. I like my home town in the way tickets go there. If it is an honest mistake they give warning since they know the ticket wouldnt do any good sicne the warning all that was needed to correct the speed or behavior. (yes they do put the infomation in there computers so if some pops up to many times they start getting tickets) And on that strech of road I see cops sitting there from time to time and quite offen all they give are warnings. heck I got one and all the cop told me was just slow down and watch my speed area.


From what I am gathering in your post you dont believe in giving someone an chance to double check and make sure they are not speeding. lets them get screwed. if that is the cause I going to laugh my ass off when you get pulled over for the 1 2 secs you where distracted by somethign and missed the sign or didnt relize you where speeding. Even the best people screw up. Should they be nailed for it or given a chance correct it and save them selves a few hunderd for something that would not correct the behavior in any way since there was not anything to correct.

But then again there are people like the poster above who should have there DL removed and have there but thown in jail. People intetinoally speeding are anotehr story.
 
Huezo said:
Whenever I see a cop I flash my lights to warn other drivers, getting a ticket is an annoyance. If I see a cop on the side of the road giving someone else a ticket I slowly drive past them in 1st gear with the engine at 5,500 revs or so as close to them as possible and then just gun it at WOT. I've only had one of them stop giving the other guy a ticket to get back on his motorcycle to follow me. He never caught up.:)


Wow. That sure sounds like a good way to get yourself killed or worse, kill someone else.

I used to flash, but then one day I thought "hey, what if that car speeding was just involved in ____ (insert serious crime here)?" I could be causing more harm to society than good by warning them of police presence. So I stopped flashing my lights to warn people. That car going faster than the posted limit could have a drunk driving it. You warn him, he slows down, and manages to make it past the cop. Further down the line he slams into a mini-van and kills a mother of three.
 
Huezo said:
I'm that guy driving like a bat out of hell in the BMW.:p

Whenever I see a cop I flash my lights to warn other drivers, getting a ticket is an annoyance. If I see a cop on the side of the road giving someone else a ticket I slowly drive past them in 1st gear with the engine at 5,500 revs or so as close to them as possible and then just gun it at WOT. I've only had one of them stop giving the other guy a ticket to get back on his motorcycle to follow me. He never caught up.:)

So far in 2006 I've gotten four speeding tickets. If I keep this pace I'll only have eight by the end of the year, not bad. The worst one was for 120km/h in a 50km/h. Those are just the tickets, not counting the times when they *tried* to give me a ticket but couldn't either because they couldn't catch me or because they could not find which law I broke and didn't know what they should ticket me for (such as drifting across an intersection.)

They've tried impounding my car twice this year already but they haven't been able to do so because they lack the authority.:D

Only one person has warned me of a speed trap by flashing their lights. I was doing 220km/h on a 50km/h road at night when I saw someone coming in the opposite direction flashing their lights. I slowed down immediately and sure enough, two cops were waiting for speeders a few km down the road. It was definitely a nice gesture.

It kind of sucks now though, because sometimes when the cops that I've pissed off see me they'll follow me just to make sure I'm driving like a law abiding citizen. They'll even take turns following me. Oh well, I guess its like having a police escort... kind of.:eek:

Please stay in Mexico.
 
mrgreen4242 said:
Please stay in Mexico.
edit miss read something.


competely agree with him. Please stay there. It people like you who scare the crap out of me driving back to houston. Stay off Texas and New mexico roads and I be happy.

Last thing I need is my car to be totaled by an idoit driver who does not drive safely or put in the hosipital because of it. There is fine line bettween driving fast and driving wreckless and you crossed it a long time ago. Wreckless drivers I hate.
 
Hey Butler Trumpet Nice to see another Louisvillian.

Yeah I do the same thing when it comes to cops. Also if I see a cop parked in the median when I'm coming over a hill, I rapidly press my brakes to warn the others behing me to slow down. I go about 5 to 7 over the speed limit and I think the cops don't worry about that too much.
 
Timepass said:
edit miss read something.


competely agree with him. Please stay there. It people like you who scare the crap out of me driving back to houston. Stay off Texas and New mexico roads and I be happy.

I don't know what makes you think I would want to willingly drive on roads in the United States. I have to admit that I do drive on Texas and New Mexico roads every once in a while because I have to, not by choice. What makes you think I want to go there? Get off your high horse, to me the US offers nothing that I couldn't otherwise acheive in Mexico. Shocked yet?:rolleyes:

I actually like my country, I live quite comfortably here.;)
 
Huezo said:
I don't know what makes you think I would want to willingly drive on roads in the United States. I have to admit that I do drive on Texas and New Mexico roads every once in a while because I have to, not by choice. What makes you think I want to go there? Get off your high horse, to me the US offers nothing that I couldn't otherwise acheive in Mexico. Shocked yet?:rolleyes:

I actually like my country, I live quite comfortably here.;)


Shocked about you being able to find almost everything you need in Mexico. Not really I know you can get most stuff there than you can in the US.

high horse.... Um you are the type of driver who kills people. Being on track to 8 speeding tickets in a year is not something to be proud of or you list of warning. Appently you are not learning you lesson and you are the type of person who gets others killed.

Lets see trying to tick off the cops. More than likely speeding in areas that you shouldnt be. And the fact they have tryed in impound your car 2 times leads me to believe you should not be on the roads any where in the world. Big time any where near me.

Do I speed yeah. Do I drive wreckless not on public roads or anywhere near other cars or people. Getting nailed doing 81mph in a 70 and being glad it was only 81 really cooled me off when I relieze how stupid I was being driving on that road 95-100 mph. And getting pulled over for doing double the limit. that will get you but thown in jail in the state of Texas.

You are a wreckless driver and should not be on the roads.
 
Timepass said:
You are a wreckless driver and should not be on the roads.
Agreed. You need to stay the **** off of public roads Huezo. Personally, I hope you wrap your car around a tree (and not die of course.)

Anyways, as Timepass said, there's a difference between fast a reckless.
I was driving down to Providence one Friday night, and some high school students in their "sport compacts" were driving down as well. I was in the left lane doing about 70 (in a 55) in moderate traffic. The nimrods were doing about 75-80 (well, trying to). They kept changing lanes (probably enough for a talking-to if a cop was around). I stayed put, and whenever the genius in the RSX (or maybe it was a Focus, I don't remember) tried to pass me on the right, I'd nudge the gas just a smidgen more and make the hole in the lane over close before he could cut me off. I think I was still ahead of most of them by the time I got off, and I was driving much safer than they were (not changing lanes excessively, not cutting people off, etc.) and I probably used less gas by not uselessly accelerating.

That said, there's really no excuse for getting 12 tickets in 4 years. You should have learned were most speed traps are by then. :rolleyes:
 
Counterfit said:
I stayed put, and whenever the genius in the RSX (or maybe it was a Focus, I don't remember) tried to pass me on the right, I'd nudge the gas just a smidgen more and make the hole in the lane over close before he could cut me off.


YES!!! That's exactly what I do. If some jackass is tryin to recreate some Fast and the Furious scene on the freeway and tries to go around me while I'm in the left lane, I line up next to an old lady on the right lane and make him pay for all the speeding he's done and take away all the time he's saved passing everybody up. Yes he maybe on my ass the entire time but if I get in an accident with him it's not gonna be my fault, cuz I'm goin the speed limit and he shoulda been 2 car lengths behind me instead of .01 car lengths.

Car damage: $2000
Neck injury: $20,000
Teachin some douche a valuable lesson: Priceless :D
 
and to add on top of that, I've had 2 tickets (speeding and wreckless driving) so far in my 3 year long driving experience. I got them mostly in the beginning year driving an old '87 Cadillac Brougham (which was even more dumb). But it's just not worth it. The thrills of it all can cost you a tons of money in insurance. I used to pay $100 every month, now I pay $400 (I think). Actually I can't even pay my insurance anymore, my parents have to do it and it may seem nice but I don't want them taking the burden of my past mistakes. :(
 
Bobdude161 said:
YES!!! That's exactly what I do. If some jackass is tryin to recreate some Fast and the Furious scene on the freeway and tries to go around me while I'm in the left lane, I line up next to an old lady on the right lane and make him pay for all the speeding he's done and take away all the time he's saved passing everybody up. Yes he maybe on my ass the entire time but if I get in an accident with him it's not gonna be my fault, cuz I'm goin the speed limit and he shoulda been 2 car lengths behind me instead of .01 car lengths.

Car damage: $2000
Neck injury: $20,000
Teachin some douche a valuable lesson: Priceless :D

If you did that to me I'd just pass you on the shoulder lane. Or if it was at night and I wasn't in a hurry I'd follow you around with the brights on.;)
 
Huezo said:
If you did that to me I'd just pass you on the shoulder lane. Or if it was at night and I wasn't in a hurry I'd follow you around with the brights on.;)


and you just adding more proof to the point you should not be driving. You are going to kill some one or get yourself killed.

You have road rage problems. and you are a wreckless driver.
 
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